娛樂滿紛 26FUN » 吹水版 » 諸葛亮死後最厲害既人物係.....

151515 發表於 2006-1-30 09:42 PM

**** 作者被禁止或刪除 內容自動屏蔽 ****

機密 發表於 2006-1-30 09:44 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]151515[/i] at 2006-1-30 21:42:0ExG4FW&J

(Q:f&F }r~#A.DNv but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9 [/quote]H#u(n
p3m.U*E:uv
)_vz_4^J1{
But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.tnB6Y,qi

8c#@;JJ"n"VG\ [[i] Last edited by 機密 on 2006-1-30 at 09:45 PM [/i]]

151515 發表於 2006-1-30 09:45 PM

**** 作者被禁止或刪除 內容自動屏蔽 ****

機密 發表於 2006-1-30 09:46 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]151515[/i] at 2006-1-30 21:45:
/m+D?:~9y9m N7j7uB
ZZ-@K;]D)V /k
F!Xh#n4l7p^7z
why?
@W.Ic9SS-q)G%}|
6[4z.r+@
X 其實他們實力差不多，很難比較:o [/quote]E*P]$YC3i
;ZH'AP)K2Je,s
see #22 Thus
6\
`H;a6O.X:] Z[Zr}+R
智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->6e:X9x\RE[

S&i/Agis5Jc'?9m&r 軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維}7g)z2Z9Jec
{ f&Z{jw
政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.W a,[f}\!r~

g2m t$J&fL7?z-P-KW 打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密 發表於 2006-1-30 09:50 PM

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.$roS-}Mr$n{

G'fl,_ O [[i] Last edited by 機密 on 2006-1-30 at 09:56 PM [/i]]

151515 發表於 2006-1-30 09:51 PM

**** 作者被禁止或刪除 內容自動屏蔽 ****

機密 發表於 2006-1-30 09:55 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]151515[/i] at 2006-1-30 21:51:
#qf7uwtP7n
R \r-|?uB 1E |5E%_;oFBS,A
他比孔明更偉大 [/quote];F;a.fM3Lk

'U9P_2V3u Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

151515 發表於 2006-1-30 09:58 PM

**** 作者被禁止或刪除 內容自動屏蔽 ****

機密 發表於 2006-1-30 10:03 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]151515[/i] at 2006-1-30 21:58:
j ?3YU c
r0caJ j ] b5Xk
i;~qd db 他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機 [/quote]&x\xiaF)F6_2r8~
je O
yes, that's the point.:)

151515 發表於 2006-1-30 10:20 PM

**** 作者被禁止或刪除 內容自動屏蔽 ****

機密 發表於 2006-1-30 10:29 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]151515[/i] at 2006-1-30 22:20:(e`'X!Ek

r_*h,c+z O1k,^*a;@O8P #Ik
h6f0T^Gki9U
陸遜也偉大，但不得善終...... [/quote]
Xu+P0Z+qk{/P Many '3 countries' peoples 不得善終 too:D

151515 發表於 2006-1-30 10:32 PM

**** 作者被禁止或刪除 內容自動屏蔽 ****

CHECSS 發表於 2006-1-31 12:21 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]151515[/i] at 2006/1/30 21:32:
$nKYF A5_ ,anaKterH{B(\
;O6SPZ"q;m
but i think智慧: 諸葛亮-->司... [/quote]AD{6K3F)yf
why you think司馬懿 and 陸遜 are good at fight than 諸葛亮 ?????????????

nashisthebestpg 發表於 2006-1-31 01:07 AM

聽聞真正的history上,諸葛亮的軍事能力未如三國演義般吹得咁勁.........
5[*n.uM.q(m 佢勁係勁在治國能力............yU,MCJ8?*K!a

$SWtFE,rnCS w 係咪如此?

benny0105 發表於 2006-1-31 01:46 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]nashisthebestpg[/i] at 2006-1-31 01:07 AM:
2BE;_5Ic3n 聽聞真正的history上,諸葛亮的軍事能力未如三國演義般吹得咁勁.........
Cd G zT.H#t 佢勁係勁在治國能力............a1[SZ)l:S

s`'IAx.? 係咪如此? [/quote]c0nV.F J

MH/y+_l

K%vE3v.A(HJ1K,I
\:S3SFZ(}:K"{voe1B 其實又有幾多人真係睇過三國志丫...
*mY}/Bb,M 好多人只不過睇完神化既「三國演義」就信以為真

nashisthebestpg 發表於 2006-1-31 01:58 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]benny0105[/i] at 2006-1-31 01:46 AM:C9g)}/mZ*y-d
+S!~-g:U0d5oh&A)V

'cQ8o p(T Z\ _umM"Wg0Q cd
5U%h4J#V0Ht
其實又有幾多人真係睇過三國志丫...
G O4yU b"Nc.Ozu^ 好多人只不過睇完神化既「三國演義」就信以為真 [/quote]
df(}cS1t 我嗰次係三聯見到本三國志,入面係逐個人物講, _j V!Z(ZY TV ZC
唔係好似三國演義好似故事咁講出黎........g){Q/H#sK

'j+m5T:W3yuA"m 三國志真係咁ga? 咁咪無咁好睇........

nashisthebestpg 發表於 2006-1-31 02:01 AM

呢個網係講有關三國正史~
UK{D:NQ,M:A&T'G 不過我諗好多人都有睇過~
.u n9F-|&Ma9l [url]http://k-fung.net/han/real.htm[/url]

奇 發表於 2006-1-31 02:05 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]nashisthebestpg[/i] at 2006-1-31 01:07 AM:)_b4s4R:DY^S
聽聞真正的history上,諸葛亮的軍事能力未如三國演義般吹得咁勁.........
0S!Su Q X;_dP 佢勁係勁在治國能力............c+VYac~
E
g)E/A c
係咪如此? [/quote]
*FE"km_5V({M Z 歷史中諸葛亮的軍事能力的確沒演義中那麼屈機,但也算不俗,始終對司馬懿也
sal.q$VR {*q 沒有佔下風:)

奇 發表於 2006-1-31 02:09 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]nashisthebestpg[/i] at 2006-1-31 02:01 AM:(X(J%M;W$HL_{
呢個網係講有關三國正史~
U!kI(v5nz0_ 不過我諗好多人都有睇過~6eUEZkA
[url]http://k-fung.net/han/real.htm[/url] [/quote]
:B.]| pm 正史中張松只有110cm?:o
"k |)l9m*sI-HeD 侏儒?

step025 發表於 2006-1-31 07:13 AM

你睇演義定火鳳? 你又點知佢地打得?
0Wv9EBz8e 阿壽寫打鬥一向草草了事, 姜維鄧艾無一次唔係不相佰仲, 點分邊個勁?R t~vJ)e

4H'KyP5Q.\sA 諸葛亮係上述當中絕對唔係最好嘅軍事家, 用人亦只用文人如楊儀, 馬謖等紙上談兵之輩, 可來成功?
?yd_*[i#q0Y A8ip
tI]
相反司馬懿係對負孟達充份表現出打仗最重要的機動性, 諸葛亮即使有再多人力物力也不能做到, 以他謹慎的做人態度3g}*u[-Wr


iIaA~C w*A2O }v,~ 有人話諸葛亮最勁, 因為佢死在, 蜀就完全唔掂
c(St+gYo#D)O 聽完更加覺得諸葛亮唔掂, 死前唔陪養多D有用嘅人用(有一大堆文人嘅), 有魏延如此勇猛的人又唔重用......可憐自己個仔一野就比鄧艾打爆......
U ~0e2c,s'{Q 司馬懿兩個仔都至高無上, 個孫司馬炎仲統一埋......4x)WQgRS| cz
陸遜個仔都係大都督,同羊祜更惺惺相惜......
#rh mKU 諸葛亮!!!你做的事顯出你特別, 更加, 無敵偉大啊!!!
%d:J"K2~fX1cM
w}8\M1OP.tR 講番姜維鄧艾, 他倆各方面都不分上下(兩人亦往往是同僚針對的人), 但在政革方面, 鄧艾全勝, 他的團田制帶來足夠糧草以應付任何對戰, 相反姜維在政治方面差不多是沒有的4t3\S'H
JJ$F

KEn1JXL 我講完依堆野之後, 想講嘅係諸葛亮死後最厲害既人物係 ------- [b]李世民[/b]:P

查看完整版本: 諸葛亮死後最厲害既人物係.....