kgkgkg212121 發表於 2006-5-1 10:01 PM
[quote]Originally posted by [i]Kian76[/i] at 2006-5-1 08:53 PM:
一個人波底有幾好一睇就知 [/quote]咁個個人睇法唔同,我覺得佢未至於你講到咁差
你求其問一個教練,佢地prefer邊個pg多d,我諗都係kidd,nash,payton,cassell,paul之間(o係你list ge人入面)
你而家pg係帶球隊節奏,交到波比隊友o係最有利位置拎分
佢有價值在就係做到呢d野,仲發揮得好好
唔係下下自己過人搶分,唔係同人鬥射~
無可否認,佢ge防守係好唔掂
但控球佢絕對唔差,仲幾top,射術都ok
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nashisthebestpg 發表於 2006-5-1 10:10 PM
[quote]Originally posted by [i]kgkgkg212121[/i] at 2006-5-1 10:01 PM:
咁個個人睇法唔同,我覺得佢未至於你講... [/quote]
我覺得傳球視野,能力等技巧更勝於crossover.速度等個人技術~
arthur8088 發表於 2006-5-1 10:11 PM
[color=Red]MAVERICKS @ GRIZZLIES
PISTONS @ BUCKS
NUGGETS @ CLIPPERS [/color]
Pts:Dirk
Reb:Ben Wallace
Ass:Cassell
kgkgkg212121 發表於 2006-5-1 10:13 PM
[quote]Originally posted by [i]nashisthebestpg[/i] at 2006-5-1 10:10 PM:
我覺得傳球視野,能力等技巧更勝於crossover.速度等個人技術~ [/quote]
係,呢d係純pg所要ge野,亦都係大部份教練要求pg做到ge野
nash同francis都係pg,francis個人技術無疑比好nash好好多
但第1,打法唔同,o係隊中定位唔同,價值唔同
如果以一個球員ge技術就決定好唔好,咁stockton直情唔可以入名人堂tim
nash ge價值就係可以串起成隊波,為隊友製造到機會
Kian76 發表於 2006-5-1 10:51 PM
[quote]Originally posted by [i]nashisthebestpg[/i] at 2006-5-1 10:10 PM:
我覺得傳球視野,能力等技巧更勝於crossover.速度等個人技術~ [/quote]
我只係講一個巨星既要素之一姐,的確個人技巧係巨星必需有的東西[color=Red]之一[/color]。:D
Kian76 發表於 2006-5-1 10:57 PM
[quote]Originally posted by [i]kgkgkg212121[/i] at 2006-5-1 10:13 PM:
係,呢d係純pg所要ge野,亦都係大部份... [/quote]
法蘭斯既打法有d似而家既Iverson,不過不同之處係級數。一個可以得分、助攻兼備,一個就兩頭唔到岸。佢地基本上唔知算係d乜野後衛,PG、SG都有d成份。佢地需要的拍擋通常都係防守好和射波準既後衛。
史托頓點同拿殊呢??人地史托頓d防守幾咁陰濕,俾波毒過拿殊好多,同埋重要關頭既史托頓三分波奇準,唔到你唔服。史托度靠既唔係插到眼花既技術,而係去到顛峰的視野和頂級的防守技巧、頂級的心理質素。佢在巨星的條件中有三種能力都係頂級,己經夠晒啦。
艾力克 發表於 2006-5-1 11:19 PM
[quote]Originally posted by [i]Kian76[/i] at 2006-5-1 08:53 PM:
我所講既技術唔係數據,係個人身... [/quote]
明星賽o個d表演節目, nash唔係嬴過控球技術獎咩?
FRANCISE 發表於 2006-5-1 11:20 PM
[quote]Originally posted by [i]艾力克[/i] at 2006-5-1 11:19 PM:
明星賽o個d表演節目, nash唔係嬴過控球技術獎咩? [/quote]
yes:good:
清揚 發表於 2006-5-1 11:31 PM
[quote]Originally posted by [i]Kian76[/i] at 2006-5-1 22:51:
我只係講一個巨星既要素之一姐,的確個人技巧係巨星必需有的東西[color=Red]之一[/color]。:D [/quote]
J.will,Alson,Tinsley三人系我看過最多花臣既三個PG,能玩咁多花臣D個人技巧一定好好la,但點解NBA頭5 PG 系(NASH,WADE,J.KIDD,Bulips,A.I),而不是J.will,Alson,Tinsley呢D花式王???
打得nba點都有D個人技巧既,睇你好似J.will咁成日用還是Duncan咁乜都行實際、方便、容易既堵:kicking:
艾力克 發表於 2006-5-1 11:45 PM
[color=Red]pts: dirk
reb: camby
ast: billups[/color]
Kian76 發表於 2006-5-2 12:20 AM
[quote]Originally posted by [i]艾力克[/i] at 2006-5-1 11:19 PM:
明星賽o個d表演節目, nash唔係嬴過控球技術獎咩? [/quote]
佢贏o個個只係一個任何NBA後衛都肯定做倒既show,佢成功地完成了一次最快紀錄和一次最慢紀錄,真係佢玩晒,根本o個個所謂技巧賽手風一順就玩晒。睇下韋迪就知,平時既佢d罰球位射波邊有咁準??撞彩姐。
Kian76 發表於 2006-5-2 12:25 AM
[quote]Originally posted by [i]清揚[/i] at 2006-5-1 11:31 PM:
J.will,Alson,Tinsley三人系我看過... [/quote]
但你可知道你數出來的五人中韋迪唔係PG啦,傑特既技術絕對好過拿殊(除左射術真係乜都勁過拿殊),比納斯的特點是極少出錯防守好命中高,的確他不是巨星,但是一位非常稱職的控衛,我係教練我會選擇佢多d,而巨星的PG又有誰??唔好以為好多,我眼中只曾出現過兩個(唔計史托頓),就係彼頓和傑特,特別係彼頓,今日既拿殊連當fit時的彼頓6成都冇。
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nashisthebestpg 發表於 2006-5-2 12:40 AM
[quote]Originally posted by [i]Kian76[/i] at 2006-5-2 12:25 AM:
但你可知道你數出來的五人中韋迪... [/quote]
當magic 無到?:D
講技術我唔覺kidd好過nash好多wo,差唔多啫...........
kidd 防守>nash, nash射波>kidd,
領導能力.......差不多吧........2個都試過帶領球隊一季贏多廿幾三十場~
Kian76 發表於 2006-5-2 12:44 AM
[quote]Originally posted by [i]nashisthebestpg[/i] at 2006-5-2 12:40 AM:
當magic 無到?:D
講技術我唔覺ki... [/quote]
有冇諗過太陽內籃網有乜野分別??真係好大架。
仲有,傑特防守>>>拿殊,拿殊射波>>傑特,傑特經驗>>>拿殊,傑特心理質素>>拿殊
同埋巨星呢d野唔係就唔係架喇,一出場o個種壓場感係巨星必需要的,呢樣野傑特就好似天生咁,但拿殊就......有冇壓場感分別好大的。
魔術手莊遜咁鬼遠古咸豐年代既人,講黎有乜畏??講遠古,Big O仲恐怖啦!!!三雙之霸!!!
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Xtravagant 發表於 2006-5-2 12:44 AM
[quote]Originally posted by [i]arthur8088[/i] at 2006-5-1 10:11 PM:
[color=Red]MAVERICKS @ GRIZZLIES
PISTONS @ BUCKS
NUGGETS @ CLIPPERS [/color]
[color=Red]Pts: Dirk Nowitzki
rebs: M.Camby
Asts: T.J. Ford[/color]
nashisthebestpg 發表於 2006-5-2 12:53 AM
[quote]Originally posted by [i]Kian76[/i] at 2006-5-2 12:44 AM:
有冇諗過太陽內籃網有乜野分別?... [/quote]
magic唔算好遠古吧......
係碼係近代籃球,同佐敦砌過tim............
kidd心理質素真係好過nash?
nash只係今場犯左2個致命失誤............其他關鍵時刻有咩過錯真係諗唔到...........
仲記得上年nash一手一腳踢小牛出局,包括一場臨幾秒入3分球追平,ot再入多2,3球~
同kidd比.....差唔多吧,只記得kidd有一場入球buzzer beater ko 活塞......
經驗......點睇得出佢地ge差別?:confused:
唔好一場比賽就判定nash心理質素差吧.......其實今場臨尾都入左球3分........
只係臨叫timeout有些問題吧...........
再說,nash第4節ge 背傷有點發作.............
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Kian76 發表於 2006-5-2 01:02 AM
[quote]Originally posted by [i]nashisthebestpg[/i] at 2006-5-2 12:53 AM:
magic唔算好遠古吧......
係碼係近... [/quote]
起碼我唔係親眼見睇住莊遜打波,我唔係佢個年代,唔敢講佢既野。
其實拿殊既姐手姐腳己經唔係第一次,好耐以前在小牛時己經俾倒我好深刻既印象,在司機被mark死、芬尼冇乜態時既拿殊就會嚴重走樣,浪射、失誤乜都齊,所以一直都唔鐘意睇倒d人將佢捧上天,係今次咁新鮮熱辣俾倒我機會去插佢,踢番佢落凡間咁姐,如果係平時邊有咁好機會呀,哈哈!!傑特無論打邊隊波都能顯出身價,呢d先係勁呀!!
kgkgkg212121 發表於 2006-5-2 06:42 AM
[quote]Originally posted by [i]Kian76[/i] at 2006-5-2 01:02 AM:
起碼我唔係親眼見睇住莊遜打波,... [/quote]
搵返mavs果時ge野黎講有咩謂je
kidd夠試過十幾個turnover tim,而家打得好咪得
講現階段ga ma,之前差就代表而家唔好... 冇可能ga ma
你係要入ge,kidd都大把位入la~~
kidd都冇你講到咁神tim~~
我一直都唔覺得nash咁神,不過你講d pt我就唔多認同
我覺得kidd係好過nash,但冇你講到個gap咁大
至於你話佢去邊度都顯出身價,好簡單
2個唔同風格,同埋kidd ge功能多過nash,nash係快攻>陣地
kidd就陣地同快攻都好...容易配合球隊
由於nash ge打法,點解黎到suns先好,o岩佢打lor~
好多球員都係ga la,之前果隊發揮唔到,去第2隊就好好多~~
所以功能上方面nash係差d~但冇你講到咁差
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nashisthebestpg 發表於 2006-5-2 06:48 AM
[quote]Originally posted by [i]kgkgkg212121[/i] at 2006-5-2 06:42 AM:
搵返mavs果時ge野黎講有咩謂je
kid... [/quote]
agree,
kidd ge水準更不穩定,成日都單位數字得分.......
不過我地ge 想法同佢好不同...........
bioamen 發表於 2006-5-2 09:18 AM
[quote]Originally posted by [i]Kian76[/i] at 2006-5-2 01:02 AM:
起碼我唔係親眼見睇住莊遜打波,... [/quote]
kidd isn't his best now...just look at how he play now during the playoff, not really that outstanding, if i didn't remember it wrong, i have no 10+ point game so far in the playoff. kidd has carter and jefferson, it's easier 4 kidd to distribute the ball, they r great players already and he didn't really have a impact of improving his teammates, as opposed to kidd, nash made his teammates become better even they r just average players. u can just tell by Boris Diaw, he's triple-double leader in the team now while playing with nash.