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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 03:34 AM

[size=5][color=Teal]在推理問題時,我們可以用 '' 如果/ if ''
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guswan 發表於 2007-3-2 04:42 AM

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sakura310 發表於 2007-3-2 05:29 AM

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k!wlsqDg 等埋我返黎先呀~~

playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 06:56 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]guswan[/i] at 2007-3-2 04:42 AM:q C&n;~'Vg

:e*H[J0kG 如{A1,2,B1,2<>A3,4,B3,N(C)}T+,但是左邊重了,即A3,A4輕了或B1,B2重了:  所以: A3,B1<>A4,N(C)
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guswan 發表於 2007-3-2 07:10 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]playbr2[/i] at 2007-3-2 06:56:
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*_+PT!L@:V8D0N 對,我更正了,幫我看看仲有冇錯,累了xL%_8ry
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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 07:26 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]guswan[/i] at 2007-3-2 07:10 AM:
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guswan 發表於 2007-3-2 07:26 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]playbr2[/i] at 2007-3-2 07:26:
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;t[S)N3DzvQg 仲有錯?我好唔清醒啦!!定我清醒再睇番.
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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 07:34 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]guswan[/i] at 2007-3-2 07:26 AM:
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仲有錯?我好唔清醒啦!!定我清醒再睇番.
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guswan 發表於 2007-3-3 12:20 AM

[size=5][color=Green]完原來人老了真係會變蠢,30歲果陣用咗37分鐘,
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guswan 發表於 2007-3-3 01:28 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]guswan[/i] at 2007-3-3 00:20:
;JeTW G,E [size=5][color=Green]完原來人老了真... [/quote]
#L'U.@5Z`U%HTn #22最好hiden埋,因為雖然係錯,但原理一樣.

2000 發表於 2007-3-3 04:01 AM

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sakura310 發表於 2007-3-3 02:43 PM

PLAY兄,我仲未答,因為有野問,問清楚先答
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bsy0k0t$o 假如啦,我而家面前真係有13粒波子係度,咁在我開始操作前,我知唔知有問題粒係重左定輕左呢?
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.AP]B/Z1w#I (2)你俾13粒波子我,話俾我聽,唔知佢輕左定重左,叫我搵出黎
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如果要透過3次操作,要在13粒波子中搵出一粒未知重左定輕左ge波子,我會說是不可能的
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guswan 發表於 2007-3-3 03:12 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]sakura310[/i] at 2007-3-3 14:43:f#^vn4I+f(`*^"\XI`
PLAY兄,我仲未答,因為有野問,問清楚先... [/quote]6]5so;O(u7O
唔知佢輕左定重左!!! 如果知輕重,還須要諗嗎?
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;Rz*T,O b-iK\ 不過原來playplay個答案係好簡單,
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sakura310 發表於 2007-3-3 03:27 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]guswan[/i] at 2007-3-3 03:12 PM:
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.`*Qzb_ 咁係咪即係情況(2)?

guswan 發表於 2007-3-3 03:45 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]sakura310[/i] at 2007-3-3 15:27:XY]8c8qFeM
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&BWmNSt 咁係咪即係情況(2)? [/quote]
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~:Y.H r_!w*x#`1w 情況(2),唔佢知輕左定重左.
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其實playplay係個問題度已經有好大提示,13粒同12粒大同小異,&ft5LD}+JJ
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我好耐以前諗過12粒,當時我用我自己嘅方法solve到,
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0uY!~(SD-F2Vg.T8Q 亦冇再深入諗個原理,所以亦局限咗自己,
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而家知咗原理,就發現自己當時武斷地覺得太簡單了,是何其笨實.:D
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原來世界有幾大,在乎心胸有多寛敞:D
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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-3 06:09 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]sakura310[/i] at 2007-3-3 03:27 PM:/A,h_\~Ug

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大優勢 發表於 2007-3-3 06:22 PM

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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-3 07:06 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]大優勢[/i] at 2007-3-3 06:22 PM:
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guswan 發表於 2007-3-3 11:33 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]大優勢[/i] at 2007-3-3 18:22:2zC0OL'hI:NXH
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sakura310 發表於 2007-3-4 08:16 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]guswan[/i] at 2007-3-3 11:33 PM:
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