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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 03:34 AM

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guswan 發表於 2007-3-2 04:42 AM

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sakura310 發表於 2007-3-2 05:29 AM

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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 06:56 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]guswan[/i] at 2007-3-2 04:42 AM:[_#s{*p8Y
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guswan 發表於 2007-3-2 07:10 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]playbr2[/i] at 2007-3-2 06:56: f,p@?q:l0N|A^{F

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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 07:26 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]guswan[/i] at 2007-3-2 07:10 AM:
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guswan 發表於 2007-3-2 07:26 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]playbr2[/i] at 2007-3-2 07:26:
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仲有錯?我好唔清醒啦!!定我清醒再睇番.
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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 07:34 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]guswan[/i] at 2007-3-2 07:26 AM:_-E"}"tP*|M

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guswan 發表於 2007-3-3 12:20 AM

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guswan 發表於 2007-3-3 01:28 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]guswan[/i] at 2007-3-3 00:20:
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#22最好hiden埋,因為雖然係錯,但原理一樣.

2000 發表於 2007-3-3 04:01 AM

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sakura310 發表於 2007-3-3 02:43 PM

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如果要透過3次操作,要在13粒波子中搵出一粒未知重左定輕左ge波子,我會說是不可能的
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guswan 發表於 2007-3-3 03:12 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]sakura310[/i] at 2007-3-3 14:43:
$t?9b8FIh6X/r? PLAY兄,我仲未答,因為有野問,問清楚先... [/quote]
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sakura310 發表於 2007-3-3 03:27 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]guswan[/i] at 2007-3-3 03:12 PM:.qd1\Id
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guswan 發表於 2007-3-3 03:45 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]sakura310[/i] at 2007-3-3 15:27:]Ha)`6T-U"G

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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-3 06:09 PM

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大優勢 發表於 2007-3-3 06:22 PM

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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-3 07:06 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]大優勢[/i] at 2007-3-3 06:22 PM:
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guswan 發表於 2007-3-3 11:33 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]大優勢[/i] at 2007-3-3 18:22:#U*J3mH#~.h:E9n
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sakura310 發表於 2007-3-4 08:16 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]guswan[/i] at 2007-3-3 11:33 PM:9_%g zMa-@
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