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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-1 09:34 PM

推理大挑戰(第四關)

[color=Teal]相信e條題目都有吾少人玩過,所以今次一於改難些少.....由12粒波子变成13 粒波子......不過對於識玩既朋友,應該都屬大同小異既啫[/color]:lol::lol:*j9h[:L.x6{5@
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現准許使用 3 次天秤。請解釋怎樣才能找出 13 粒內那 1 粒重量不相等 (即是重了 / 輕了) 的波子呢？』[/color]
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guswan 發表於 2007-3-1 09:38 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]playbr2[/i] at 2007-3-1 21:34: {-]|s/A jY{
[color=Teal]相信e條題目都有吾少人玩... [/quote]
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等我搵下仲在吾在:D:D:D
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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-1 10:07 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]guswan[/i] at 2007-3-1 09:38 PM:
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我以前畫左個chart去答,
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16749 發表於 2007-3-1 11:35 PM

唔識隱藏...已經諗到..:help:

playbr2 發表於 2007-3-1 11:42 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]16749[/i] at 2007-3-1 11:35 PM:R#B
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Triangel 發表於 2007-3-1 11:57 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]playbr2[/i] at 2007-3-1 09:34 PM:'{H].} ^5`P
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PlayPlay, Let me know later who has the right answer and I will add points accordingly.
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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 12:03 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]Triangel[/i] at 2007-3-1 11:57 PM:
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Azuma 發表於 2007-3-2 12:25 AM

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hello1997 發表於 2007-3-2 12:35 AM

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xzdowO;V8w 唔知我答得正唔正確呢?! :agree:|/Fh\(QY[

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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 12:48 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]Azuma[/i] at 2007-3-2 12:25 AM:9qS;qPh9p
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Triangel 發表於 2007-3-2 01:04 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]playbr2[/i] at 2007-3-2 12:03 AM:6OI;Y*iv'Oc|g+M^
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不如你都玩吓喇....叫[u]d叔叔[/u]加分咪得囉:agree::agree:........如果岩既話:lol::dev::D:D [/quote]
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guswan 發表於 2007-3-2 01:10 AM

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駛唔駛連輕左或重左都要知?
R0dOs Zl 12粒就可以,13粒......

easy_man 發表於 2007-3-2 01:54 AM

hehe ~ 睇到問題之後引唔住手睇埋人地既答案 ~IS[w@u
但係佢地好似都錯左 :help:

playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 01:55 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]guswan[/i] at 2007-3-2 01:10 AM:
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@1G2m:[.qAm,~ 13粒 一定得 :agree::agree::agree:

playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 02:05 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i][color=Red]hello1997[/color][/i] at 2007-3-2 12:35 AM:B*w(s z T%j.lYaf.j|
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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 02:07 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]Triangel[/i] at 2007-3-2 01:04 AM:U+c8`qb

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頑童俱樂部  #64580 :confused: ok 嗎???

feuosma 發表於 2007-3-2 02:19 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]playbr2[/i] at 2007-3-2 02:07:*o u0A)KiT:B o[jN

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.Cu dTc5a&] 最後再攞A或B同C或D磅(即A vs C/ A vs D/ B vs C/ B vs D/是但一個都冇所謂)….大家亦都會係一樣….(第三次磅)…ol6Tc)x9HHP4D
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guswan 發表於 2007-3-2 02:20 AM

做完,可唔可以scan圖,點隱藏圖?'rSZ([C%q+N\
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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 03:07 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]guswan[/i] at 2007-3-2 02:20 AM:
Y8o2WB cW 做完,可唔可以scan圖,點隱藏圖?
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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 03:16 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]feuosma[/i] at 2007-3-2 02:19 AM:(]1Sb+B4c
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係咁既情形下即係果粒唔同重量既一定晌A入面…..最後再攞A入面是但兩粒黎磅…(第三次磅)…如果係一樣既…..咁剩低冇磅果粒當然就係唔同果粒啦…..
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