娛樂滿紛 26FUN » 吹水版 » 推理大挑戰(第四關)

playbr2 發表於 2007-3-1 09:34 PM

推理大挑戰(第四關)

[color=Teal]相信e條題目都有吾少人玩過,所以今次一於改難些少.....由12粒波子变成13 粒波子......不過對於識玩既朋友,應該都屬大同小異既啫[/color]:lol::lol:
}4He&GQ-]mo
R8Q|J2w P;l7i [color=Blue]『有 13 粒波子，有 12粒是重量相同的，有 1 粒是重量不同的 (沒有列明是輕了 / 重了)。FM#`)F5wA `
現准許使用 3 次天秤。請解釋怎樣才能找出 13 粒內那 1 粒重量不相等 (即是重了 / 輕了) 的波子呢？』[/color]
/Tz#gSzR3S$F4d l&gE~ OF];C(f
[color=Red]注意: [/color])D!y!p1eq$@!_s
(N(a
DKu3F
[color=Red]1.[/color] 回答題目時,波子的名稱代號請用使用 1,2,3,.......至13 等數目代表, 即1 代表1號波子 , 13 代表13號波子.....以方便查證.[a7R)`'_6Msc/qp

%ccga)~O*G)qD ZL [color=Red]2. [/color]請回答題目的朋友使用'' 反白功能 '' (即係將D字既颜色改為白色,白色颜色在黑色颜色上一行,透明的呢)穩藏回答答案,費事比其他人抄  , hide 字要連埋 , 內容 = 答案[}
yU#v
(K|X6Pk:g%a
[[i] Last edited by playbr2 on 2007-3-1 at 11:54 PM [/i]]

guswan 發表於 2007-3-1 09:38 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]playbr2[/i] at 2007-3-1 21:34:
E9A `U ~4gje [color=Teal]相信e條題目都有吾少人玩... [/quote]C2L?)zi tY0M#h,i
我以前畫左個chart去答,
+ylO,X,[vX 等我搵下仲在吾在:D:D:D%D1}p*Nr-s
9`i'I o_
當日用左37分鐘答１２粒波子，差７分鐘才合格。
^*h,B
E7xUj 13.........
G8o8C7W.v-E6\7bA sU
-M T"d#bsq [[i] Last edited by guswan on 2007-3-1 at 09:44 PM [/i]]

playbr2 發表於 2007-3-1 10:07 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]guswan[/i] at 2007-3-1 09:38 PM:Rh!aH"_7K-L f
y&y6BY$ti}4l^
我以前畫左個chart去答,z_#{$MQ%k7Kw1M%G
等我搵下... [/quote]
_&Glfq~^a ea(y
iD@v2XFA 記得穩藏答案

16749 發表於 2007-3-1 11:35 PM

唔識隱藏...已經諗到..:help:

playbr2 發表於 2007-3-1 11:42 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]16749[/i] at 2007-3-1 11:35 PM:t2MKX{?
[size=6][color=Green]唔識隱藏...已經諗到[/color][/size]..:help: [/quote]|(`@9[xc,W`
/nl fyzee[
[color=Red]sor !!!....e加改左[/color]"M9`NtV&PJ?%\

MW:t?`^kX"a6F [color=Red]2. [/color]請回答題目的朋友使用'' 反白功能 '' (即係將D字既颜色改為白色,白色颜色在黑色颜色上一行,透明的呢)穩藏回答答案,費事比其他人抄
gCS;HvG!k;F e5J]Yv1V$z.ni,R
[[i] Last edited by playbr2 on 2007-3-1 at 11:55 PM [/i]]

Triangel 發表於 2007-3-1 11:57 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]playbr2[/i] at 2007-3-1 09:34 PM:&h9X
n{*T
C"j:t
[color=Teal]相信e條題目都有吾少人玩... [/quote]eb;QAr%Eu R T
y
7p#h2kN^@u
PlayPlay, Let me know later who has the right answer and I will add points accordingly.
\:`|@+c/Kt;?%RR4kH)` #Fsde$C[u6Z
Thanks

playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 12:03 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]Triangel[/i] at 2007-3-1 11:57 PM:
C
H'g|M1R7n3WsMQ
(g;B-JyGS4VC
Yx:K.SlwzG PlayPlay, Let me know later who has the right answer and I will add points accordingly.5Z*X:QT:bqHS(r)jm"f

pf-`h9M'W,Ic O Thanks [/quote]
#zI6N}#E-[3]2p 'G N c7m#o {
不如你都玩吓喇....叫[u]d叔叔[/u]加分咪得囉:agree::agree:........如果岩既話:lol::dev::D:D

Azuma 發表於 2007-3-2 12:25 AM

1.
L/Kh7xMxT
H 1-6 vs 7-12
3RE?bmik pc if 1-6 = 7-12     13 is fakeVYwI%bcSv/X
!H['lx)y8M@,hf|0b
if not )FR N"{-S} JrB

:F&m?'y;}+hIQ Weight the 2 time L%_qy#nI$k6i

X$S"z9w5k vU4k Suppose 1-6> 7-12
6vEf2v1Q,v9_
-{ I)~@*N
P)|m:X6B 1-3 vs 4-6
^z D'v&A
:A8@-TF5j~,WYY(] Then Weight the Third\*p;`pCX5h(N
3.f1N2}+w#wi{|%^
!qG7Pw.a [:j?2aY7O
Suppose 4-6 > 1-3,Y r5I3v J[
!c2n_$XpU,z
Just like the first Step&N9IExT1m w

Er"w*\4@ 4 vs 5 |``/LC-Op

.NklPEc if 4=5 6 is the fake one 'EGX#W})xS
)Q'Y3D8c(oHM1Ve0x8o
if 4>5  4 is the fake one
'M:?.wsS
n
MWbEH4a and so on......................

hello1997 發表於 2007-3-2 12:35 AM

[color=White]分3組4隻波子秤%c)tx^-cxKd
&w{V{O.Bo
Group A: 1,2,3,4
0\p-g+I.az Group B: 5,6,7,8
?5T L8} [5p
iM3f Group C: 9,10,11,12
r2WOz6U c Group D: 13 M:|ea&s!~5|
V5O3x1e$yzJ+A~(SN
Round 1
`cq1Say%R Group A vs Group B
%hCd
rm+?Cr 如A and B一樣, 即較輕一粒在Group C or D-aW utq
`J/t9@Sr3I
Round 2G`.g3b.hi
再在Group C拆成:(NpP1r Z@5I
Group Ca: 9,10
y(@|;ID Group Cb: 11,128Wi"q+_1HS
然後再秤, 如一樣, 即13為較輕一粒.
@'j E&Jg?`%FtYo a 2{8G8\(ZC_E$_
如不同, 即較輕一組有一粒較輕波子在其中, 'w)O(|.wR8C1B3Nt1R
要再秤, Round 3, 之後便知答案.
6Y+GM2Mu sph?
.Q"cm/m3K\%Aj2s;@0A e.g. #1 假設10為較輕的一粒1K8vTV:^5I(L
Round 1
:E+O9Y/P1kO8r&SaL 1,2,3,4 vs 5,6,7,8 = equal
\\y#sY2E+m i$~
5G']%{$}6\;xt Round 2Bc/n|+}
9,10 vs 11,12 = 9,10 < 11,12G6h+i i|
O#T)E.lw
Round 3gEv;m"OqTi-m9C
9 vs 10 = 9 > 10tni%De

W6oA4[U#_ The answer is 10.W_8RaU6MB|MU

.j1v,Y}N(_:|!M e.g. #2 假設7為較輕的一粒El,gP2W w
Round 17u&I~B cX
1,2,3,4 vs 5,6,7,8 = 1,2,3,4 > 5,6,7,8 C7Pi"H(S\:~
y_NY_5OO
Round 2
,M`,tsT 5,6 vs 7,8 = 5,6 > 7,8p\0U-[w#k `z_cF

Y@Nc.CdSn Round 39EIY,G1\*l
7 vs 8 = 7 < 8
&rI sI*f7x5O'b !p? G$or*Cc
The answer is 7.3cMP
iL


TuzV(Z
P e.g. #3 假設13為較輕的一粒
*dR.c:|2UL3GvB'Os Round 1
Z,H)z!p(f0H;\ c'qO 1,2,3,4 vs 5,6,7,8 = equal DI#{9byOx
|Y xOwz!Ww6Q
Round 2 k
FW(Oo
9,10 vs 11,12 = equalW/I&`
K,F-P5{/cD

4P Z"fJ0mK6Oy_$ej No Round 3
6T1z3|'`pSC0c j"\'M6` ?ph/N7@ |
The answer is 13.[/color]XechF|W
5Jo)FH)L
唔知我答得正唔正確呢?! :agree:
n m,B,bg5}C$eb!G(R
KH H RH~'ol [[i] Last edited by hello1997 on 2007-3-2 at 12:39 AM [/i]]

playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 12:48 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]Azuma[/i] at 2007-3-2 12:25 AM:
]`.Tssl0I 1.dzuE,I,xl9E M
1-6 vs 7-12BQQ Qk$N5E
if 1-6 = 7-12     13 is fake
l0Wq
t j,z +az@ u(h
if not
h0}1fP6H-jZ .y
{!`4a'Z2P7K q
[color=Red]Weight the 2 time h ?#t*B5ds

-x
a*dm
\ l*{3h Suppose 1-6> 7-12
9H} LF9G R
\n?^{
1-3 vs 4-6 [/color]
'Z'u I u Vl%T#E
3L6w9kD:I,xb*Y [color=Blue]Then Weight the ThirdZ'Yq)l{:q
3.K&V-Ux8G'dK

3[;i&d#Z#n6Yn Suppose 4-6 > 1-3
]k1iD'^js
u.[3~*}R"dW0I Just like the first Step
-hCfY ?1o8vS
a&j8^0bar[ 4 vs 5
4og#G0K9S1u5L3R3j
'd6PQ8Ieu if 4=5 6 is the fake one )z qU
`4m\ j!l
)]]$u P(F
if 4>5  4 is the fake one [/color]uBC!w6a
and so on...................... [/quote] gKi!{8G U
cvM6Z%T
5DV2|7| L}^
1L;c0h6TxU5KN
[color=Red]問題第二步[/color]$Hk2e }bg:ad7Rh

DCk:{/y9ub8Pd Weight 1:  1-6> 7-12
5Aep`n%w1Oy 1G%Z:F[D
Weight 2:  1-3 vs 4-6 ,[color=Red][size=4] if 1-3 = 4-6[/size][/color]
U ` iVjI3]KHO D2Ses,_U6X [
你第三步点去搵 7-12 边一粒???M9vf&h3y
Ai z1a)\;q`7w
========================================
-U0vJ,e5X,PC+Fun:M_
7B? aMI{!q x} [color=Blue]問題第三步[/color]Z$sxsTU8ezL*^^
?!]vH:oV;}
Weight 1:  1-6> 7-12+nz#f/Lgs
)p-M/W&f` d3I
Weight 2:  4-6 > 1-3 ZMs*Cxfc(`
b

(k.q/f9w
R#{ P 你又吾知粒波子輕D定重D ..... 咁点解第三步只磅4-6 吾磅1-3 . 如果個波子係輕D ,咁4-6 就一定一樣咁重 :naughty::naughty:

Triangel 發表於 2007-3-2 01:04 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]playbr2[/i] at 2007-3-2 12:03 AM:bHTA!Oq4F


C9AR\6F4E j:X3RO'_3e
不如你都玩吓喇....叫[u]d叔叔[/u]加分咪得囉:agree::agree:........如果岩既話:lol::dev::D:D [/quote]^r5?$o)Z*b0fh
TIJH/i
我邊夠IQ玩，加分我就識（加分唔洗用腦架:dev::P）

guswan 發表於 2007-3-2 01:10 AM

playplay,
"b
s ^MV0s n&E&h 駛唔駛連輕左或重左都要知?
$j d`lQ7ED^U 12粒就可以,13粒......

easy_man 發表於 2007-3-2 01:54 AM

hehe ~ 睇到問題之後引唔住手睇埋人地既答案 ~
6}k\$qA }:Mk 但係佢地好似都錯左 :help:

playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 01:55 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]guswan[/i] at 2007-3-2 01:10 AM:7?*CkZ:g3m"\
playplay, f@x,ly7xH
駛唔駛連輕左或重左都要知?g }.@1`-Oh!tB
12粒就可以,13粒...... [/quote]
d9YQW2j@"v"d'W-d
1W.I G/hu 如果將個答案攞去做實驗.......最後真係會知边粒波子輕左或重左.......不過係文字上,輕左或重左都冇乜所謂(又比左Tips :lol:)d.uCKTM
8xCgG;T*D
13粒 一定得 :agree::agree::agree:

playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 02:05 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i][color=Red]hello1997[/color][/i] at 2007-3-2 12:35 AM:
(J q~^D [color=White]分3組4隻波子秤:c!U:_mt8T$C9w:[4W
xEseQ1B"DN
Grou... [/quote]
y0wGmlGS#` ,g$\(a!v9N@(G
吾知輕左定重左喎.......冇得咁假設 ---> 『一早知边粒輕左/重左 』使問由''已知的假設答案''出發,又点會推算出岩答案;););)

playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 02:07 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]Triangel[/i] at 2007-3-2 01:04 AM:
I
X7V]%j \1~-Up e.u%w p,Dh,k7D

6b |F6q:p&t N 我邊夠IQ玩，加分我就識（加分唔洗用腦架:dev::P） [/quote]
wc.RWR&Z*M&o
8Mt]I)H OMmcOL 頑童俱樂部  #64580 :confused: ok 嗎???

feuosma 發表於 2007-3-2 02:19 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]playbr2[/i] at 2007-3-2 02:07:
)hh6@%n(J
IR:j"ra Y k3sw7f:{KC-e
頑童俱樂部  #64580 :confused: ok 嗎??? [/quote]
zoY"p G YwgQ,w/}:q1H'P
冇勇氣面對你...不過至少有勇氣答你既問題.....我答完覺得仲係有d唔妥......不過我好相信我呢個應該好接近答案..........去片..."G|w ~U*nc2x@

J DC Q^eT*xT [color=White]先將13粒波子分為5份….姑且叫佢地做A,B,C,D及E…
L-O^$^0aL\ A,B,C,D四份都係3粒波子…..最後E果份就係1粒波子….
2m Q WWu5s*x?c 咁果一粒當然一定晌A,B,C,D,E果五份是但一份到….7ddcn*AaE${f-Z
/hj"B!Tc
先假設果一粒晌E果份到…..咁就簡單….
kM%A:^|In 先磅A同B….大家都會係一樣(第一次磅)….
9UKA/g*X9p 跟手磅C同D….大家亦都會係一樣….(第二次磅)…
1zA;?0N z*r w$INE 最後再攞A或B同C或D磅(即A vs C/ A vs D/ B vs C/ B vs D/是但一個都冇所謂)….大家亦都會係一樣….(第三次磅)…$KPBc#j}J3V[L
咁樣就證明左A=B=C=D…咁果粒當然就係E啦…..
[z8A^4\%N"RLV
/I{$tWw!k,f+t 世事當然唔會咁簡單…..如果果粒唔同既晌A/B/C/D度又點???"\
S-h(t0v z2nR
假設佢晌A度…..U^x9Jy&IE5T3g(`e
先磅A同B….A對比B會係輕d/重d…(第一次磅)….
i6Q4h2fI#|]s 跟手磅C同D….大家都會係一樣….(第二次磅)…!|2n.m&i#Vd!w.T:m
係咁既情形下即係果粒唔同重量既一定晌A入面…..最後再攞A入面是但兩粒黎磅…(第三次磅)…如果係一樣既…..咁剩低冇磅果粒當然就係唔同果粒啦…..
H*dI6Ob8P"cX 如果磅出黎係唔同既….咁就要睇番當初第一次磅既時候….A同B比較時究竟係輕左定重左…..如果係A重d既話…即係話果粒唔同既係重d既….咁晌第三次磅既時候重d果粒就係唔同果粒啦………. 如果當初係A輕d既話…即係話果粒唔同既係輕d既…咁晌第三次磅既時候輕d果粒就係唔同果粒啦……….
FS;Lu,U$]
}z y"eGE 而晌咁既情形下E無論點當然都唔駛磅啦…..(佢一定唔係唔同果粒)…N @mS&O"WZ
lG)Q ]vR
如果果粒唔同既晌B/C/D度都係用一樣原理咁抽佢出黎……[/color]

guswan 發表於 2007-3-2 02:20 AM

做完,可唔可以scan圖,點隱藏圖?
,Q"C6y?q;`s"V
\ u 有排打.

playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 03:07 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]guswan[/i] at 2007-3-2 02:20 AM:DiiF/D s:Y*g v
做完,可唔可以scan圖,點隱藏圖?6}1z,KQpkE }m
有排打. [/quote]
C4yb9t5h$|} Gg]!Tc-`)^l[E
你scan圖 , 之後zip (再加密碼)......你e+係度嗎???.......去[甘肛] 上載附件 所需 積分 1290 , 我下了會call你, 你就馬上 dele 吧 ...... 第二日,再揾機會比密碼:agree::agree:

playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 03:16 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]feuosma[/i] at 2007-3-2 02:19 AM:UjOu:c/]'z/q

[)gO)C
w5W#dW(w*[
J
k2`+c"~*Bu 世事當然唔會咁簡單…..如果果粒唔同既晌A/B/C/D度又點???Pa'}jN kQr
[color=Red]假設佢晌A度…..[/color]
,M
pz7X.Z 先磅A同B….A對比B會係輕d/重d…(第一次磅)…. Eu1Z3b-_BNGX
跟手磅C同D….大家都會係一樣….(第二次磅)…
#p q$r!?/k 係咁既情形下即係果粒唔同重量既一定晌A入面…..最後再攞A入面是但兩粒黎磅…(第三次磅)…如果係一樣既…..咁剩低冇磅果粒當然就係唔同果粒啦…..6t.V"^r ^'fw F
如果磅出黎係唔同既….咁就要睇番當初第一次磅既時候….A同B比較時究竟係輕左定重左…..如果係A重d既話…即係話果粒唔同既係重d既….咁晌第三次磅既時候重d果粒就係唔同果粒啦………. 如果當初係A輕d既話…即係話果粒唔同既係輕d既…咁晌第三次磅既時候輕d果粒就係唔同果粒啦……….
HLt+{pUU
A%W/L y? 而晌咁既情形下E無論點當然都唔駛磅啦…..(佢一定唔係唔同果粒)…x] t,?!Z j
8sU/i7w$tkdDG
如果果粒唔同既晌B/C/D度都係用一樣原理咁抽佢出黎……[/quote]
+d.Ql+_FNh
fn|-UVu0a _)| 一早假設了答案,不會得出最後正確答案,只會[color=Red]人為地[/color]製造出假設答案 , 如果你的[color=Red]假設[/color][color=Blue]不成立[/color] , 你下面的推算皆錯!!! :):):)

查看完整版本: 推理大挑戰(第四關)