娛樂滿紛 26FUN » 吹水版 » 推理大挑戰(第四關)

playbr2 發表於 2007-3-1 09:34 PM

推理大挑戰(第四關)

[color=Teal]相信e條題目都有吾少人玩過,所以今次一於改難些少.....由12粒波子变成13 粒波子......不過對於識玩既朋友,應該都屬大同小異既啫[/color]:lol::lol:
gxR4d I|H"n&Q#i
8knZs+w [color=Blue]『有 13 粒波子，有 12粒是重量相同的，有 1 粒是重量不同的 (沒有列明是輕了 / 重了)。
`?Sex%s 現准許使用 3 次天秤。請解釋怎樣才能找出 13 粒內那 1 粒重量不相等 (即是重了 / 輕了) 的波子呢？』[/color]f)Y uK*B$F.c
A[M*b.J7sw5t
[color=Red]注意: [/color]
P;E6o2W:Xy |ktcG j%J
[color=Red]1.[/color] 回答題目時,波子的名稱代號請用使用 1,2,3,.......至13 等數目代表, 即1 代表1號波子 , 13 代表13號波子.....以方便查證-EOlJD"b$^
6A%z ^4S%^n
[color=Red]2. [/color]請回答題目的朋友使用'' 反白功能 '' (即係將D字既颜色改為白色,白色颜色在黑色颜色上一行,透明的呢)穩藏回答答案,費事比其他人抄  , hide 字要連埋 , 內容 = 答案
1h Mkl+J_
jME|-`\ [[i] Last edited by playbr2 on 2007-3-1 at 11:54 PM [/i]]

guswan 發表於 2007-3-1 09:38 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]playbr2[/i] at 2007-3-1 21:34:
@\%at:?Q#W&w [color=Teal]相信e條題目都有吾少人玩... [/quote]5cG5?3Va1cB [
我以前畫左個chart去答,py&t5Vj
I L:b3lE
等我搵下仲在吾在:D:D:D
[!i UoM,gBE 1}/_)i~+E!i)a
當日用左37分鐘答１２粒波子，差７分鐘才合格。
q7~\U.n4KK s 13........./{KEG]*XlM
/l [IU`z
[[i] Last edited by guswan on 2007-3-1 at 09:44 PM [/i]]

playbr2 發表於 2007-3-1 10:07 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]guswan[/i] at 2007-3-1 09:38 PM:S7t.be!BZ
%I5i)N6E^(yp
我以前畫左個chart去答,-g)ak5r8N#d
等我搵下... [/quote]9Z y@2@LH[lI

9q^m6g-Dd|9tF 記得穩藏答案

16749 發表於 2007-3-1 11:35 PM

唔識隱藏...已經諗到..:help:

playbr2 發表於 2007-3-1 11:42 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]16749[/i] at 2007-3-1 11:35 PM:
5{a-^@^@.n [size=6][color=Green]唔識隱藏...已經諗到[/color][/size]..:help: [/quote]
Z&C!pga+N9B#Eh~
"z.NB2y/m)Y-J&^(Z-z [color=Red]sor !!!....e加改左[/color]
-l0zEX%Z Lv_$k1V,f2rs8Hy
[color=Red]2. [/color]請回答題目的朋友使用'' 反白功能 '' (即係將D字既颜色改為白色,白色颜色在黑色颜色上一行,透明的呢)穩藏回答答案,費事比其他人抄 f!wQ`h+d
b1q.W2x2@ gUc
[[i] Last edited by playbr2 on 2007-3-1 at 11:55 PM [/i]]

Triangel 發表於 2007-3-1 11:57 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]playbr2[/i] at 2007-3-1 09:34 PM:
[U)Y4G$wuW [color=Teal]相信e條題目都有吾少人玩... [/quote]!QIa3b&F5Mh-Q
j5t!}Tkg
PlayPlay, Let me know later who has the right answer and I will add points accordingly.
/ocOBz
.SM(x5fi(q!b_ Thanks

playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 12:03 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]Triangel[/i] at 2007-3-1 11:57 PM:x,p^D&FeV
o?G:i1Q L

6N"U YqPv ].^t)A PlayPlay, Let me know later who has the right answer and I will add points accordingly. Mm,HV [}m,M|
;w(_[T}0N]rI{;|/_
Thanks [/quote]%xuw#b-sB{^

!r3V.D&K F([e`i6wR 不如你都玩吓喇....叫[u]d叔叔[/u]加分咪得囉:agree::agree:........如果岩既話:lol::dev::D:D

Azuma 發表於 2007-3-2 12:25 AM

1.
Gz0W@9[/a1z_ 1-6 vs 7-12
8vdj9H ma if 1-6 = 7-12     13 is fake
/riTNKx+?;H] .P;BTJ5f_L5~
if not ,E
N"GR8P;r
?[G1_ MM!?
Weight the 2 time I7[!o+pQBft3H

9l\$G Rr
C?9O Suppose 1-6> 7-12
p/]4|,r:M4Y8Q*W
&?bA X5S}#PI 1-3 vs 4-6
tR5KxvGd
HTzT1L,G;OPN} Then Weight the ThirdGFV(r2[sl3k7E
3.
2\%y,KenS3f
HNnf*fdv c Suppose 4-6 > 1-3
eW
l.o9[@#Np
-Jw%vGHf+f#u Just like the first Step)jtF.r Q-c
}4I4Cr$C
@
4 vs 5
Q { IUFv
0Iem$rs"iLI if 4=5 6 is the fake one
[m)H$`L*db$e +juHo%K.p"hs^
if 4>5  4 is the fake one ni W5VEp
W n5jU8q|Kw;_
and so on......................

hello1997 發表於 2007-3-2 12:35 AM

[color=White]分3組4隻波子秤L%|BU:Cn:J&E} YIZ
[1A gH:JK/Ag4L
Group A: 1,2,3,4

lQ,s }A Group B: 5,6,7,8
u:P J7i2]KH Group C: 9,10,11,12HJ!@Y"P;m?&_b
Group D: 139~8p:UY2yk W m-[ms
)]t;~3x:UFi}0z?
Round 1#oI\/ID
Group A vs Group BG/kj#B:g%ai
如A and B一樣, 即較輕一粒在Group C or D
6U2S*ce)O6}.Hv %DMD8EP&X@(a+BP
Round 26C5o)g m U/p7z2w
再在Group C拆成:2Yt[!w&Te(\{
Group Ca: 9,10
|)L3^.ew Group Cb: 11,12
l X&e9s0r)F(sj j2J 然後再秤, 如一樣, 即13為較輕一粒.
u J8\:w:E no8@{
,deG$W,bO8r 如不同, 即較輕一組有一粒較輕波子在其中, |f2B:X t1teM5?*ss
要再秤, Round 3, 之後便知答案.
x0?;^.{K/_-h-] Re(|
W|4u:i4z
e.g. #1 假設10為較輕的一粒q_9`:El6`7A&OW
Round 1
M%k8@!Y{6xZ1e 1,2,3,4 vs 5,6,7,8 = equald0i7l*R/A'h
(R+HKq.{m8bJ^ J
Round 2
4F*xMdvO\7? 9,10 vs 11,12 = 9,10 < 11,12
&U.@P9]7V#dKF
$KdDA'I1hO Round 3
F A`OR(DM?
r
9 vs 10 = 9 > 10 W.?l{C/T8{
mdtVqRE
The answer is 10.
k!f%[.m*Xe6f
2q9s U4O#t ^Aq e.g. #2 假設7為較輕的一粒5A`,o JJ?6].J}4d
Round 1:{7~d5]!Q:n*_~ v
1,2,3,4 vs 5,6,7,8 = 1,2,3,4 > 5,6,7,8w@ ?b} |y!|%K^n
m1K [!Yk r#N+Q
Round 2C%jZ1st"|}
5,6 vs 7,8 = 5,6 > 7,8~ LU2rJl|V
M5D
V6B eE1I)`(v1I
Round 3}._GF4e0G
7 vs 8 = 7 < 8:Uh5G+z,e1Q H/oS9i
:lh0j ^Xb
The answer is 7.
y"f4Gy!yO&V*^Y ]?FR\"`X
e.g. #3 假設13為較輕的一粒
,^r%e+_lC9erP Round 1U#IIf1O&nb{/s
1,2,3,4 vs 5,6,7,8 = equal qxIN[7J]
S\9X9n-YHG'f
Round 2
0M7IJ}uBX 9,10 vs 11,12 = equal
\
Q'G&f_ 0iCZ^'Y7l'G1n
No Round 3
/u:x{S3Gbq_5c 4\8Ms m2M-}6zP
}'ziVR
The answer is 13.[/color]I|,j7aC"I$XJ
Q!r(a2GTO
唔知我答得正唔正確呢?! :agree:7s Ucs ]EK1o5s9G

Dm#Z.wx,R3j|L [[i] Last edited by hello1997 on 2007-3-2 at 12:39 AM [/i]]

playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 12:48 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]Azuma[/i] at 2007-3-2 12:25 AM:[email protected]#Q3u};IT
1.
[7WF`G;bd 1-6 vs 7-12
&E U,i*h:BF1i if 1-6 = 7-12     13 is fake
9}'fa6r
{IL%v9B}6a\k.m
d[$X}%NgR| if not d9H-INj1@:Ax

lc+^ m'I4~n [color=Red]Weight the 2 time
Kc q[j 2?E(AEp1a
Suppose 1-6> 7-12
&BY.U(n!PF%mvj
V*TW,\N`]a
1-3 vs 4-6 [/color]l'Y[)Uda0ix [:R'[
"Q/Y+k Lm
[color=Blue]Then Weight the ThirdYm/L&D rR
3.s/\rYe.\:tXl

q9B8ccS9`rQmY Suppose 4-6 > 1-3\2mSL#?]
V5V A5`
wc*K8Sop_G
Just like the first Step%C8?!m!J)YH~

+K|ebUyI 4 vs 5 M/iT&T"M5S
?FE:Q
{4n)M;s8K ?yRi
if 4=5 6 is the fake one .},n]%vL L.wT c,u

7D J2?,e:\ if 4>5  4 is the fake one [/color]@;{)q7I h'`f
and so on...................... [/quote]
2sP;aC)nN*U ?1FLl
1{TzT] w:hB*ct cH'{ad
[color=Red]問題第二步[/color]UPOq_ u\{L+i
P;N
tC@Z/?vEt
Weight 1:  1-6> 7-12bOw%x&abt6^Q{:q

L0Zg(Wg} OJ c Weight 2:  1-3 vs 4-6 ,[color=Red][size=4] if 1-3 = 4-6[/size][/color]
Aer Y7c Ws 0^Ih nC i+rva
你第三步点去搵 7-12 边一粒???
&A6Mq/j oFvT
|JJ7~$~nTR,|F ========================================!N9e5FZ3Q
8d5m:YQ(yZ
[color=Blue]問題第三步[/color]
#j8ux3W ~&Zp k4s!|+|9F
Weight 1:  1-6> 7-12
Ap.zJe|)w+j
%P+y'ab;S+E t C7]@ Weight 2:  4-6 > 1-3 !D5jy9v)O2QQ0xe
MZ'Z7k!g#o0Q7^~
你又吾知粒波子輕D定重D ..... 咁点解第三步只磅4-6 吾磅1-3 . 如果個波子係輕D ,咁4-6 就一定一樣咁重 :naughty::naughty:

Triangel 發表於 2007-3-2 01:04 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]playbr2[/i] at 2007-3-2 12:03 AM:
yf~/PH*BN*C 3A[&X0Py&vi|3}

dT{'}v^?!A a 不如你都玩吓喇....叫[u]d叔叔[/u]加分咪得囉:agree::agree:........如果岩既話:lol::dev::D:D [/quote]oojD B2a \_b"Y*y

/o/P2@6J3`gm*VB 我邊夠IQ玩，加分我就識（加分唔洗用腦架:dev::P）

guswan 發表於 2007-3-2 01:10 AM

playplay,
!p5}/r&V%Fn(JqM!` 駛唔駛連輕左或重左都要知?
d+P5c ybv8pyO 12粒就可以,13粒......

easy_man 發表於 2007-3-2 01:54 AM

hehe ~ 睇到問題之後引唔住手睇埋人地既答案 ~
C$h1^-Eg/f 但係佢地好似都錯左 :help:

playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 01:55 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]guswan[/i] at 2007-3-2 01:10 AM:1m?,a#w2YN1Q.Tr
playplay,q9@9HV qV
駛唔駛連輕左或重左都要知?
H;`3a2h!\ 12粒就可以,13粒...... [/quote]Y1c#f
h*Yj } j
$B!zIN5`{e
如果將個答案攞去做實驗.......最後真係會知边粒波子輕左或重左.......不過係文字上,輕左或重左都冇乜所謂(又比左Tips :lol:)8]`c4e_r

:Jbr]8ld 13粒 一定得 :agree::agree::agree:

playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 02:05 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i][color=Red]hello1997[/color][/i] at 2007-3-2 12:35 AM:F!@hW1P0|!h T
[color=White]分3組4隻波子秤L
uVg/JtyU1u

+S c N0D#k?[ Grou... [/quote]"t#l&JvqJtO

(t-u%X)xq%@\0B%x 吾知輕左定重左喎.......冇得咁假設 ---> 『一早知边粒輕左/重左 』使問由''已知的假設答案''出發,又点會推算出岩答案;););)

playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 02:07 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]Triangel[/i] at 2007-3-2 01:04 AM:7g,~!WO(|.f*G
Io$Lw+R'r

-?%u d[D^7p~ 我邊夠IQ玩，加分我就識（加分唔洗用腦架:dev::P） [/quote]8qK!]8Hg
&p;TMV[W^
頑童俱樂部  #64580 :confused: ok 嗎???

feuosma 發表於 2007-3-2 02:19 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]playbr2[/i] at 2007-3-2 02:07:
/l$u6fT'^
5Al-P:@knE HX&]7q)Mb3V&P,X3FP
頑童俱樂部  #64580 :confused: ok 嗎??? [/quote]-uk*P#vZ;h,K
x2c&l:cmYM
冇勇氣面對你...不過至少有勇氣答你既問題.....我答完覺得仲係有d唔妥......不過我好相信我呢個應該好接近答案..........去片...
;Z Kw-^,Z .EO%I#y*Fb y6V
[color=White]先將13粒波子分為5份….姑且叫佢地做A,B,C,D及E…
flW'p:b
@h l A,B,C,D四份都係3粒波子…..最後E果份就係1粒波子….AK g lJ)T s!c]9d5o
咁果一粒當然一定晌A,B,C,D,E果五份是但一份到….$n7|O
UiV@

'[YM3Vd(L%RZ}"n"r9`!w 先假設果一粒晌E果份到…..咁就簡單….L,L L]q
先磅A同B….大家都會係一樣(第一次磅)….
0t3R&~*m&\ou&df$Y 跟手磅C同D….大家亦都會係一樣….(第二次磅)…6o!P;O2F*O*rH+w(qS|e
最後再攞A或B同C或D磅(即A vs C/ A vs D/ B vs C/ B vs D/是但一個都冇所謂)….大家亦都會係一樣….(第三次磅)…(b A G)E:n e&^%W/c
咁樣就證明左A=B=C=D…咁果粒當然就係E啦…..X:F0tQ'YVg

\'i wHW*P V]xs 世事當然唔會咁簡單…..如果果粒唔同既晌A/B/C/D度又點???f)P9Cp!W
假設佢晌A度….._,\J1G6}aH,i5T"p
先磅A同B….A對比B會係輕d/重d…(第一次磅)….
(l6sZ0Fz 跟手磅C同D….大家都會係一樣….(第二次磅)…
7@['?O5G f
p 係咁既情形下即係果粒唔同重量既一定晌A入面…..最後再攞A入面是但兩粒黎磅…(第三次磅)…如果係一樣既…..咁剩低冇磅果粒當然就係唔同果粒啦…..3hB5q;BL |U
如果磅出黎係唔同既….咁就要睇番當初第一次磅既時候….A同B比較時究竟係輕左定重左…..如果係A重d既話…即係話果粒唔同既係重d既….咁晌第三次磅既時候重d果粒就係唔同果粒啦………. 如果當初係A輕d既話…即係話果粒唔同既係輕d既…咁晌第三次磅既時候輕d果粒就係唔同果粒啦……….(}iT6Cm5WlP

+CPD0[T^3P$ZQ/m 而晌咁既情形下E無論點當然都唔駛磅啦…..(佢一定唔係唔同果粒)…T.P~9d cfV)G-S
*h a]y6z
如果果粒唔同既晌B/C/D度都係用一樣原理咁抽佢出黎……[/color]

guswan 發表於 2007-3-2 02:20 AM

做完,可唔可以scan圖,點隱藏圖?n"G~:BnqW7s V
有排打.

playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 03:07 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]guswan[/i] at 2007-3-2 02:20 AM:w;yT J
w_4u4sqK
做完,可唔可以scan圖,點隱藏圖?.M/VgAD8h0O"f
有排打. [/quote]
p2^;ZC&EXSg
YAbk&Nt 你scan圖 , 之後zip (再加密碼)......你e+係度嗎???.......去[甘肛] 上載附件 所需 積分 1290 , 我下了會call你, 你就馬上 dele 吧 ...... 第二日,再揾機會比密碼:agree::agree:

playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 03:16 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]feuosma[/i] at 2007-3-2 02:19 AM:
aG*M'q,t O~X[*qj5Q

.u*U#X]d.Tx2^*k,X/P'A 世事當然唔會咁簡單…..如果果粒唔同既晌A/B/C/D度又點???A?3U&L$g3~R1[}
[color=Red]假設佢晌A度…..[/color]
B:t4Q:H"h"h|)\ 先磅A同B….A對比B會係輕d/重d…(第一次磅)….
YgZD}dn|3E 跟手磅C同D….大家都會係一樣….(第二次磅)…@4x5q.G5r)TS
係咁既情形下即係果粒唔同重量既一定晌A入面…..最後再攞A入面是但兩粒黎磅…(第三次磅)…如果係一樣既…..咁剩低冇磅果粒當然就係唔同果粒啦…..
jq nB.Yb1d 如果磅出黎係唔同既….咁就要睇番當初第一次磅既時候….A同B比較時究竟係輕左定重左…..如果係A重d既話…即係話果粒唔同既係重d既….咁晌第三次磅既時候重d果粒就係唔同果粒啦………. 如果當初係A輕d既話…即係話果粒唔同既係輕d既…咁晌第三次磅既時候輕d果粒就係唔同果粒啦……….'R Tw4BC {TDr

D:tB;@`B2S2J G
而晌咁既情形下E無論點當然都唔駛磅啦…..(佢一定唔係唔同果粒)…
Z&|P
p:ga2xc
!UFIf/W+F 如果果粒唔同既晌B/C/D度都係用一樣原理咁抽佢出黎……[/quote]
n?-_a B/vIe
z _O#aY 一早假設了答案,不會得出最後正確答案,只會[color=Red]人為地[/color]製造出假設答案 , 如果你的[color=Red]假設[/color][color=Blue]不成立[/color] , 你下面的推算皆錯!!! :):):)

查看完整版本: 推理大挑戰(第四關)