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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-1 09:34 PM

推理大挑戰(第四關)

[color=Teal]相信e條題目都有吾少人玩過,所以今次一於改難些少.....由12粒波子变成13 粒波子......不過對於識玩既朋友,應該都屬大同小異既啫[/color]:lol::lol:
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'ddndJ_"oR 現准許使用 3 次天秤。請解釋怎樣才能找出 13 粒內那 1 粒重量不相等 (即是重了 / 輕了) 的波子呢？』[/color]BSwZ"q?8N6B |2s

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9R;K4|qZ [color=Red]2. [/color]請回答題目的朋友使用'' 反白功能 '' (即係將D字既颜色改為白色,白色颜色在黑色颜色上一行,透明的呢)穩藏回答答案,費事比其他人抄  , hide 字要連埋 , 內容 = 答案Z5s^CZ

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guswan 發表於 2007-3-1 09:38 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]playbr2[/i] at 2007-3-1 21:34:`0X+Q CI"B}E
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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-1 10:07 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]guswan[/i] at 2007-3-1 09:38 PM:K,\xkfX

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16749 發表於 2007-3-1 11:35 PM

唔識隱藏...已經諗到..:help:

playbr2 發表於 2007-3-1 11:42 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]16749[/i] at 2007-3-1 11:35 PM:
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Triangel 發表於 2007-3-1 11:57 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]playbr2[/i] at 2007-3-1 09:34 PM:*o
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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 12:03 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]Triangel[/i] at 2007-3-1 11:57 PM:;{lVn!dn)|(J
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Azuma 發表於 2007-3-2 12:25 AM

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hello1997 發表於 2007-3-2 12:35 AM

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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 12:48 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]Azuma[/i] at 2007-3-2 12:25 AM:
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你又吾知粒波子輕D定重D ..... 咁点解第三步只磅4-6 吾磅1-3 . 如果個波子係輕D ,咁4-6 就一定一樣咁重 :naughty::naughty:

Triangel 發表於 2007-3-2 01:04 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]playbr2[/i] at 2007-3-2 12:03 AM:
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guswan 發表於 2007-3-2 01:10 AM

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12粒就可以,13粒......

easy_man 發表於 2007-3-2 01:54 AM

hehe ~ 睇到問題之後引唔住手睇埋人地既答案 ~1M0V9G#b0r8@U
但係佢地好似都錯左 :help:

playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 01:55 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]guswan[/i] at 2007-3-2 01:10 AM:;r
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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 02:05 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i][color=Red]hello1997[/color][/i] at 2007-3-2 12:35 AM:
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吾知輕左定重左喎.......冇得咁假設 ---> 『一早知边粒輕左/重左 』使問由''已知的假設答案''出發,又点會推算出岩答案;););)

playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 02:07 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]Triangel[/i] at 2007-3-2 01:04 AM:
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頑童俱樂部  #64580 :confused: ok 嗎???

feuosma 發表於 2007-3-2 02:19 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]playbr2[/i] at 2007-3-2 02:07:*A-P:w9qZ
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跟手磅C同D….大家亦都會係一樣….(第二次磅)…
5wX:^Y*p6Pfu 最後再攞A或B同C或D磅(即A vs C/ A vs D/ B vs C/ B vs D/是但一個都冇所謂)….大家亦都會係一樣….(第三次磅)…
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如果磅出黎係唔同既….咁就要睇番當初第一次磅既時候….A同B比較時究竟係輕左定重左…..如果係A重d既話…即係話果粒唔同既係重d既….咁晌第三次磅既時候重d果粒就係唔同果粒啦………. 如果當初係A輕d既話…即係話果粒唔同既係輕d既…咁晌第三次磅既時候輕d果粒就係唔同果粒啦……….*Oj6KKMW%qS
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guswan 發表於 2007-3-2 02:20 AM

做完,可唔可以scan圖,點隱藏圖?
#{ x#?D@(Z)wW 有排打.

playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 03:07 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]guswan[/i] at 2007-3-2 02:20 AM:
C"h-n#DHCA 做完,可唔可以scan圖,點隱藏圖?:s%aB,^ ]h:GpmY
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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 03:16 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]feuosma[/i] at 2007-3-2 02:19 AM:

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qs0dRz%s)V/f 如果磅出黎係唔同既….咁就要睇番當初第一次磅既時候….A同B比較時究竟係輕左定重左…..如果係A重d既話…即係話果粒唔同既係重d既….咁晌第三次磅既時候重d果粒就係唔同果粒啦………. 如果當初係A輕d既話…即係話果粒唔同既係輕d既…咁晌第三次磅既時候輕d果粒就係唔同果粒啦……….
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