Blood sucking banker.......
:good::good:I agree you on buying HSBC shares.....but timing is important...and it must be a long term plan & strategies....
I am not living in Hong Kong, I own 2 HSBC credit cards....and still owing them some $$$$ :cry::cry: ...serving a HSBC housing loan :( :( ....HSBC is a very localize Foreign Bank in my country....most of the Chinese here especially business man and those grandpa and grandma are having accounts with HSBC.....they are making $$$$!
It is a bit risky going into market now and buy their shares...most of the markets (europe, asia, us) are hitting records high....I think you can accumulate their shares when the world markets (or HK market) under big correction....it is a long term investment (20-30 years) [quote]Originally posted by [i]小强[/i] at 2007-4-23 11:20 AM:
:good::good:
I agree you on buying... [/quote]
就係有你支持，HSBC先可以次次派高息予我們這些股東．:D
可能係加拿大居民囉，HSBC食哂當地華人market
I have been the shareholder of HSBC since 1999 and repeatedly buy its share when accumulating sufficient money.
I have joined the monthly contribution plan since 2001 following 911 incident in USA and now deposit HKD$ 15,000 every month into my investment account to purchase the HSBC share.
People ask me in 2001: you are not scared?
My answer: why I am scared. I am looking for the long term & the capital growth.
In 2003, HK had been suffered from the SARS. I was using about HKD $110,000 to buy about 1118 shares of HSBC at the low price in UK and transferred these shares to my own name, mailing to HK for my memory. The price I bought is 650 pounds (remarks: over 929 pounds in UK as at 23.4.2007).
Most importantly, I am used to choosing the share instead of money given when HSBC announced its dividend to the shareholders from the beginning to the end. Let me take an example for you the case of my UK's registered HSBC share (the attached photo is referred).
You can know the Chinese words: [color=Red][size=6]積沙成塔、水滴石穿[/size][/color]。
My UK’s registered HSBC in 2003 is 1118. Now it turns to 1303 because of the new dividends chosen. It is expected that another 27 shares would be added in May 2007 when I receive the final dividends of 2006.
[[i] Last edited by 新經濟學巨人 on 2007-4-23 at 02:14 PM [/i]] 家陣買好危... [quote]Originally posted by [i]新經濟學巨人[/i] at 2007-4-23 11:36 AM:
就係有你支持，HSBC先可以次次派... [/quote]
The method you used is a good start....at least you don't need to care about the ups & downs of the market and just buy the shares every month .... 股神畢菲特 did the similar way of accumulating Coca-Cola with some measures of purchase timing which enhance his return.
On average and long run, you will definately gain more than the Fixed Deposit rate. Probably you can manage the purchase timing later to maximize the return.
This method is good and provided: [b][color=red]You pick the RIGHT stock!!![/color][/b]
Good Luck to every one who own HSBC!! Hope it can break HKD$180.00 this year :clap::clap::clap:.
** if it goes down below HKD$130 :dev::dev:, it is the best time to accumulate :naughty::naughty: [quote]Originally posted by [i]小强[/i] at 2007-4-23 07:05 PM:
The method you used is a good s... [/quote]
噢........貪心．
I have a suggestion for those who want to keep the GOOD share for a long time.
[size=6]大摩碧斯：股市，係人類[color=Red]貪婪[/color] vs. [color=Blue]恐懼[/color]
的結果．[/size]
There is no exceptional because human is human.
How to stand firm fear in the bear market sentiment is the main point.
You may open an account (individual) in the Hong Kong Exchange just like me. The purpose is not to apply for IPO. You should draw the GOOD share, i.e. HSBC and put it into the Hong Kong Exchange Account. Even the bear is coming and you are under being attacked, I am sorry your shares are [i][size=6]LOCKED[/size][/i]. hehehehe.....
[[i] Last edited by 新經濟學巨人 on 2007-4-23 at 09:52 PM [/i]] 係咪真係掂呀 [quote]Originally posted by [i]wukingtung[/i] at 2007-4-23 11:32 PM:
係咪真係掂呀 [/quote]
20-30 years :win::win: [quote]Originally posted by [i]小强[/i] at 2007-4-23 23:40:
20-30 years :win::win: [/quote]
強兄!!!!!!:dev::dev::dev:
[url]http://www.26fun.com/bbs/viewthread.php?tid=147317&fpage=1[/url] [quote]Originally posted by [i]feuosma[/i] at 2007-4-23 11:42 PM:
強兄!!!!!!:dev::dev::dev:
[url]http://www.26fun.com/bbs/viewthread.php?tid=147317&fpage=1[/url] [/quote]
:dev::dev:[b][color=red][size=6]賀!!![/size][/color][/b]:win::win: [size=5]跟里昂，真係[color=Red]你戇[/color]．．．
睇HSBC，115以下．．．．．
里 昂 檢 討 盈 利 預 測 （26.4.2007）
現 時 控 的 股 息 率 為 四 點 八 厘 ， 無 論 與 同 業 或 本 身 過 去 水 平 比 較 ， 並 非 特 別 高 。
根 據 資 料 顯 示 ， 九 ○ 至 九 一 年 期 間 ， 控 的 股 息 率 曾 高 達 八 點 二 厘 。
此 外 ， 里 昂 又 認 為 ， 鑑 於匯 控 不 認 為 集 團 資 本 過 剩 ， 因 此 預 期 不 會 大 幅 提 高 派 息 比 率 ， 而匯 控 保 留 一 百 億 至 二 百 億 美 元 作 收 購 ， 政 策 也 不 似 會 改 變 ， 而 該 行 正 檢 討匯控 的 盈 利 預 測 。 [/size]
[[i] Last edited by 新經濟學巨人 on 2007-4-26 at 01:24 PM [/i]] **** 作者被禁止或刪除 內容自動屏蔽 **** [size=4[color=Red]]大件事，中東資金越買越多HSBC．[/color]
２００７年５月１日，最新info
Dubai International Capital buys substantial stake in HSBC Holdings
By Mirna Sleiman
Last Update: 8:34 AM ET May 1, 2007
DUBAI (Zawya Dow Jones) -- U.A.E. government-owned DIC Asset Management, a unit of Dubai International Capital, said Tuesday it has bought a "substantial" stake in HSBC Holdings.
DIC Asset Management bought the stake through its $2 billion Global Strategic Equities Fund.
DIC didn't reveal any details about the size of the stake.
"This is the first of many planned investments that will eventually see GSEF investing about $10 billion in global companies," Sameer Al Ansari, Dubai International's Chief Executive Officer said in the statement.
HSBC Holdings, one of the world's largest banking and financial services companies, had assets of around $1,861 billion at end of 2006, according to the DIC statement. [/size] [size=5]近日，中東資金大舉[u]狂掃HSBC股票[/u]，
若小弟估算冇錯，在２００７年盛夏時，HSBC股價會到達＄１６０，
由於有眾多大股東不斷增持，尤其是中東，
HSBC的管理層會傾向作出重大收購，
如１９９０年初時，匯控收購英國四大行之一的米特蘭銀行，
２００３年，收購美國Household International，
以上兩次重大收購，都係[color=Red]發行新股[/color]（可以擴大一級資本比率），
２００６年，高盛估計，HSBC手上持有可[color=Red]隨時[/color]動用資金有３００億美金．
我估，HSBC有極大可能，在２００７年，以現金+股票，收購一間龐大的
保險公司，可能係--------------英國保誠！
備註：
一級資本：係發行新股，有如print notes，可以擴大股東基礎；
二級資本：係發債，但要還架
不是間間銀行，可以學，發新股收購，要市場對這間公司好有信心才可行，否則，股價有大幅下跌風險！
２００７年目標：１６０
２００７年可到：１８０
２００７年夢想價：２００
呼籲26FUN會員，齊齊掃入-------------HSBC:P[/size]
[[i] Last edited by 新經濟學巨人 on 2007-5-2 at 06:57 PM [/i]] 一手幾多 $ ar 依家~? [quote]Originally posted by [i]新經濟學巨人[/i] at 2007-5-2 06:41 PM:
[size=5]近日，中東資金大舉[u]狂掃HS... [/quote]
未係時候, 股市似有異動. [quote]Originally posted by [i]admin[/i] at 2007-5-2 10:28 PM:
未係時候, 股市似有異動. [/quote]
admin大人，小弟今次唔認同你，按照我對HSBC的分析（不是由於我買重才講，其實由１９９９年至現在，我都將９０％財富，押在HSBC）．
[u][b]HSBC今次升浪，與１９９８年那次相同[/b][/u]，當時由股災後的１３０幾，大升多時，最終至３００蚊．
中資股，確要小心（估值太．．．．高）．
陸東，雖然，我唔係所有東西都認同他，但陸東有一句，我好認同：
[color=Red]人們只看P (Price)，又唔睇E (Earning)．[/color]
不是預料２００７年，HSBC盈利會大升，只是由偏低，走向合理．
以HSBC質素，預期PE到１７倍，絕對合理，
中資金融股，PE是多少？中東佬拿了幾百億買HSBC，都唔買中資金融股
就可知在其心中，乜叫好股．
陸東曰：好股，為什麼要便比你丫！
[i][b]股神畢菲特：別人貪得無厭, 自己要識得驚；別人怕得要死, 自己要奮勇進取。
Be fearful when others are greedy, and be greedy when others are fearful.[/b][/i]
[[i] Last edited by 新經濟學巨人 on 2007-5-2 at 11:10 PM [/i]] [size=5]由於併購在即，加上HSBC被環球資金競逐，
２００７年，HSBC將會回復正常PE/PB，
１８０蚊，好大機會到．．．．．
理由好簡單，環球金融股，若有大型併購正發生，
大銀行，[size=6]絕對唔會便[/size]（指PE/PB），因為：
１）要發新股收購
２）怕自己亦被人併購
加上HSBC近日被中東巨型資金競逐，HSBC絕對唔想
有單一投資者持有太多HSBC股份，例子，
如當年１９９８香港政府與大鱷對打，最終持有７％匯控，
往後，HSBC收購加快，股價越走越高．．．．．
[color=Red]小弟為26fun會員多年，千言萬語，留待26fun會員待鑑証．[/color]不過，如果想發，可以跟佢？
[url]http://hk.video.yahoo.com/video/play?vid=474357[/url]
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[[i] Last edited by 新經濟學巨人 on 2007-5-3 at 01:40 PM [/i]] ３／５／２００７，香港匯控成交近７０億，
平時只有２０多億，明顯地，[size=6]大戶繼續掃貨[/size]，
散戶睇到頭昂昂．．．．．:D:D
香港時間：３／５／２００７，晚上１１時．
匯控，繼續在倫敦[size=6]爆上
我認為，現在大戶依然在
１）香港
２）倫敦
３）紐約
狂掃匯控，因成交太[size=6]大[/size]！！！！:win:
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[[i] Last edited by 新經濟學巨人 on 2007-5-3 at 11:21 PM [/i]] 小弟而家先知華永會有行政總裁=.=小弟無知多多見諒 嘩，HSBC於２００７年５月１１日
在歐／美時間，直撲１５０蚊大關．:D
大散的性格，老是這樣，１５０蚊，比起奧馬屎的０．０８，
當然好貴，要HSBC升到３００，老散的心態：
１）有乜可能哈？；
２）十年都未到啦！．
奧馬屎可以double的機會，在老散來講，當然高得多，
結果，老散永遠輸錢，精明的investor，用他們７０－８０％資產
投入HSBC，長久每年連股息可有１５％ return，
就是由於以眾多資金投入，故可以達至長久的資本增值．
平，貴，一如男子見到女子，她是美或不美一樣，
當然，審美，有一個比較客觀標準，如眼，身材，高度等．．．．
惟我有一點想大家留意，HSBC的體格（指資產的分佈及盈利能力），
比較起１９９７及２０００年，有好大改進，
當你翻開HSBC YEAR BOOK，對比一下１９９７ vs. ２００５，
她的資產及賺錢的分佈：
１）Europe
２）Asia
３）Amercia
１９９７年時，匯控只是一間盈利高度集中香港及英國的大銀行（我並不認為好國際化）．
現在盈利能力在各洲各佔三分一，資產的確稍為傾向以歐洲資產為多（over 40%），與歷史有關．
我會認為HSBC的體格比CITIGROUP更強，匯控能進佔世界第一大銀行，我會認為只是a matter of time，亦不會太遠！
當然，其餘的，如
１）公司管治
２）公司透明度
３）對股東公平（年年可觀股息可見）
４）最重要，沒有單一大股東（世界級的先決）
是一隻可以長久持有的股票．
譚SIR曾講，只持有一間公司的股票，好危險，並舉了HK TELCOM（香港電訊）為例子，惟HKT沒有以上第四點（當時為英國大東為大股東，嚴重影響公司決策，並作出一個致命的決定）．
For people who wish to know more about HSBC, I would recommend this
[url]http://a248.e.akamai.net/7/248/3622/1155d916c9bd00/www.img.ghq.hsbc.com/public/groupsite/assets/about/brief_history_feb2004.pdf[/url]
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