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ringo1969 發表於 2007-12-29 04:18 PM

費sir在曼聯的最佳收購~~同一手收購~~~~~~:love::love:

[color=Maroon][size=6]蘇斯克查[/size][/color]~~~~~~~~[color=Red]傳奇20號[/color]

:cheers::cheers:

shehboy 發表於 2007-12-29 06:42 PM

樓主無定義"最佳收購", 令板友用緊唔同既理解去討論.

從字面講, "最佳收購"即係外購球員之中的最佳者, 咁講法即係選非曼聯培訓出來的最佳球員, 購入價錢同購入前該球員的表現並唔在考慮之列.

但如果從較有意義的著眼點去理解(本人相信此乃樓主原意), "最佳收購"應該包含比較收購前後該球員的名氣,表現,身價的差別來考慮, 咁好自然一定係傑斯, 因為佢在被購入前只係一個細路, 仲要係被棄用既. 不過佢可算係特別例子, 除左佢之外, 蘇斯克查, 舒米高, 亦比較符合呢個準則, 雖然佢地當時已經係國腳級, 同傑斯仔過曼聯時差好遠.

所以, 講簡東拿或朗尼都唔係好啱, 因為佢地未過曼聯時在列斯同愛華頓已經好受注目,
雲佬就更唔駛講, 早已是荷甲神射手. :good:

glmleung 發表於 2007-12-29 07:42 PM

should be 舒米高, no one can replace his role up to now.

fowlerhk 發表於 2007-12-29 08:36 PM

schmeichel of coz

plicaplica 發表於 2007-12-29 10:23 PM

簡東拿, 舒米高

迷途小羔羊 發表於 2007-12-29 10:56 PM

其實傑斯一向廣視作曼聯既青訓出品
因為他在成為曼聯職業球員前,並未在簽下其他球隊既職業球員合約
咁算唔算收購呢?又或者咁同我地一般所認為既收購又是不是一樣呢?

如果是講翻一般人認為既收購
即是加入曼聯前已簽過其他球會既職業合約
絕對是舒米高同簡東拿
但前者會是第一~~
因為佢帶俾曼聯既成就是史無前例既三冠王
後者係第二
簡東拿是帶領曼聯步向輝煌既過程當中既一個重要人物

kakashi82 發表於 2007-12-31 01:57 AM

當然係舒米高,邦比發掘加超值轉會費加世界級水準,幾十萬磅轉會費係邊到搵?同而家嘅所謂最佳收購,使幾千萬嘅c7同朗尼簡直無得比~

arthur8088 發表於 2007-12-31 02:10 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]kakashi82[/i] at 2007-12-31 01:57:
當然係舒米高,邦比發掘加超值轉會費加世界級水準,幾十萬磅轉會費係邊到搵?同而家嘅所謂最佳收購,使幾千萬嘅c7同朗尼簡直無得比~ [/quote]

in early 90s, $500,000 GBP is kind of near or above average transfer fee...Cantona or Keano's transferring fee were like 1 to 2M that time....but it was already the highest fee in England...

Frankly, C.Ronaldo is Fergie's best signing after 99 Triple~~and the fee is very very reasonable...~~(kind of a bit low based on his current performance)  but he's one of Fergie's best signing in his life~~definitely

brightlee 發表於 2007-12-31 04:44 AM

I still think Schmeichel transfer fee was a little bit lower than average at that period.....
Do you know why? I remember in 1989, Crystal Palace broke the record to buy a goal keeper named Nigel Martyn for 1 million pounds from Bristol Rovers.....

jackycannis 發表於 2007-12-31 08:38 AM

簡東拿、舒米高、傑斯、朗尼、c朗…
講吓講吓,都幾多!
費SIR真係好眼光!

196560711 發表於 2007-12-31 10:07 AM

簡東拿.舒米高
兩大神人

amigofans 發表於 2007-12-31 10:18 AM

有d唔同意大家睇"最佳收購"既定義, 因為大家似乎只覺得"平買"後打起既,
先算有眼光, 買一d如朗尼或簡東拿既球員, 無咩咁巴閉, 因為大家都知佢地好...

所以蘇斯克查, 舒米高呢d順理成章成為大家首選,

[b]個人都認為佢地呢類係好收購, 但其實"平買", 承擔既風險比較小,
以少搏大, 搏輸左大家唔覺, 搏到一個半個就會名流青史, 人人話你好眼光...[/b]

[color=Red]就以蘇斯克查為例, 有幾多朋友會知道當年仲有位挪威前鋒"尼夫蘭"
同佢一齊加盟曼聯....[/color]

[b]個人反而覺得"貴買"而最後可以成功到既更可貴, 錢就人人都有,
但若果失敗後, 果種風險唔係個個可以承擔....[/b]

例如朗尼02年euro果種超新星式既光芒四射, 係英超領隊都睇得到,
問題係只有老費同卜比sir敢賭呢一鋪, 當年雲加侯利亞敢唔敢郁?

我講呢一點係想大家唔好忽視"貴買"既球員, 雖然人人睇到,
但唔係人人都敢買架, 萬一睇錯既, 炒魷都有知....

堅尼, 朗尼, 里奧 雖然係天價, 但都係非常好既收購...

小弟覺得"最佳收購"如下...

1.堅尼
2.里奧
3.舒米高

[[i] Last edited by amigofans on 2007-12-31 at 10:19 AM [/i]]

brightlee 發表於 2007-12-31 10:41 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]filter-052fans[/i] at 2007-12-31 12:18:
有d唔同意大家睇"最佳收購"... [/quote]
em... Rio...
I disagree
he is still inconsistency............ maybe he believes himself too much.. sometimes I think he'd make some silly mistakes.....

amigofans 發表於 2007-12-31 10:59 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]brightlee[/i] at 2007-12-31 10:41 AM:

em... Rio...
I disagree
he is still inconsistency............ maybe he believes himself too much.. sometimes I think he'd make some silly mistakes..... [/quote]

無錯, 但亦應該考慮, 無里奧之前既時代....

尤其stam走人後果一季, 白蘭斯加莊臣.....
真係打到嚇死人, 果季最後好似足足輸左10場...

處處吻 發表於 2007-12-31 03:02 PM

簡東拿

簡東拿加盟, 俾左當年仲係小朋友ge碧咸, 史高斯一班年輕球員一個好好ge學習對象, 以前碧咸接受訪問時講過, 當年佢地一班o靚仔, 響簡東拿身上學到最重要係"專業", 簡東拿操練從不欺場, 往往會早到遲退, 有咁ge前輩在場, 佢地更加唔敢偷懶, 而佢更加好似簡大帝咁, 自己不斷加操, 咁日後先有"七旋斬"一技傍身~

簡東拿雖然唔係三冠王ge一份子, 但佢卻係重要ge基石...

Edgar_Davids 發表於 2008-1-1 01:52 AM

[b][size=5][color=White]Carroll, Djemba-Djemba, Veron, Forlan.... :dev::dev::dev:[/color][/size][/b]

arthur8088 發表於 2008-1-1 11:04 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]Edgar_Davids[/i] at 2008-1-1 01:52:
[b][size=5][color=White]Carroll, Djemba-Djemba, Veron, Forlan.... :dev::dev::dev:[/color][/size][/b] [/quote]


[color=Beige]You have miss a few more....[/color]  :D:D

[color=Beige][size=4]Massimo Taibi, Mark Bosnich, Liam Miller, David May[/size][/color] :dev::dev::dev::dev:

kakashi82 發表於 2008-1-1 09:02 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]arthur8088[/i] at 2007-12-31 02:10 AM:


in early 90s, $500,000 GBP is kind of near or above average transfer fee...Cantona or Keano's transferring fee were like 1 to 2M that time....but it was already the highest fee in England...
[/quote]

物價通脹係事實,但如果費sir能夠將依家部份收購嘅金額控制係千鬆萬已經算係成功,所以c7嚴格黎講係一個成功收購,但唔係"最佳收購"..因"最佳收購"嘅定義係超值價錢,世界級水準,球員於球隊嘅影響性以至佢本身於球場外私生活是否檢點等等...c7千二萬收購算係超值, 但佢於曼聯嘅影響力始終唔及舒米高,負面嘅私生活,國際賽同朗尼嘅爭執,而且依然未擁有過國際賽冠軍(球會及國家隊)等..如果依幾點佢能夠改善,佢有力成為曼聯十年內最重要一員!!

soccerking 發表於 2008-1-1 10:01 PM

樓主話明係最佳,緊係貼一個就夠啦,佢就係舒米高....

amigofans 發表於 2008-1-3 09:44 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]arthur8088[/i] at 2008-1-1 11:04 AM:



[color=Beige]You have miss a few more....[/color]  :D:D

[color=Beige][size=4]Massimo Taibi, Mark Bosnich, Liam Miller, David May[/size][/color] :dev::dev::dev::dev: [/quote]

唔同意卡奴爾係失敗, 因為從來只係替補球員, 後備龍佢已經交足貨,
david may亦無咩問題, 佢都係3冠王既成員之一...

米拿成本太小, 失敗亦唔見有咩損失, 科蘭700萬唔係太貴,
至少佢入波唔少得過同樣700萬既smith...

迪贊巴, 泰比, 華朗, 尤其保斯尼治, 相信無咩point可以反對...

如果要玩呢個既, 相信雲加, 侯利亞個list, 會長過水蛇d春...:dev:

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