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SKII999 發表於 2008-1-17 07:26 PM

想問大家一條數,,

ab+bc-ac=0
@\TDa b           a-c=101b&HyE#s
          求b+aX;V-j(N? [

C)N-\|G)TD1|C           要STEPS,,,THX

托迪仔T 發表於 2008-1-17 07:42 PM

a=101, b&c =0 :D

SKII999 發表於 2008-1-17 07:52 PM

我都知,,但唔知點得出個ans.,,anyway,,THX

ch.chak 發表於 2008-1-17 09:38 PM

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sakura310 發表於 2008-1-17 09:58 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]ch.chak[/i] at 2008-1-17 09:38 PM:
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ch.chak 發表於 2008-1-17 10:53 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]sakura310[/i] at 2008-1-17 09:58 PM:
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呀俊 發表於 2008-1-17 11:00 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]托迪仔T[/i] at 2008-1-17 07:42 PM:m1@-P:qPf!]9oN
a=101, b&c =0 :D [/quote]x F*N0a#j~:i
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          求b(T3La W m;V6m-a
咁玩法...如果c係-101...a同b=0 都得架wo:D

playbr2 發表於 2008-1-17 11:58 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]sakura310[/i] at  09:58 PM:
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sakura310 發表於 2008-1-18 12:08 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]playbr2[/i] at 2008-1-17 11:58 PM:S$z*PpZ
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!]2i%NZ;o 咁你呢~你又唔去計?:dev::dev:
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等了這麼久也沒人貼答案出來
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由於題目沒有說到a,b和c是甚麼數,我暫且假設係整數黎做(光是實數的話...太沒意思了...)
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playbr2 發表於 2008-1-18 12:21 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]sakura310[/i] at  12:08 AM:ON3I5f!G8\B
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b=ac/(a+c)=(101c+c^2)/(101+2c)
g.u+M4\l#H ? 設c=101n0}7UG[at
101n代入c
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=[(101^2)n(n+1)]/[(101)(2n+1)]
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2|dV2[ djie 因為a、b、c是正整數
k!Um`)fK%JZy 所以n是正整數
i wYT#|4m 所以[101n(n+1)]/(2n+1)是整數UD#t6g1|G1Y7j#R
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b=2550  <--[101n(n+1)]/(2n+1)W]/J-w.BO)l!f
c=5050  <--c=101n
8J4^x/u`d 答案:b=2550

sakura310 發表於 2008-1-18 12:27 AM

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5`bWmW 點解大家都down兩次? XD

playbr2 發表於 2008-1-18 12:30 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]sakura310[/i] at  12:27 AM:
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之後DL (就变成第二次)

playbr2 發表於 2008-1-18 12:34 AM

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話吾定我都打錯 + - 符號
WB5t^:At2E?6m:b 係電腦打答案...的確幾煩...又哂時間...:giveup:

sakura310 發表於 2008-1-18 06:47 AM

捉錯處就唔敢當%y)E%i`*s2[1ci
不過,c=101n哥度(解除n係正整數的限制,只是整數)
b%d8qZ bXU:N$E(xw"| 就一下子限制左c一定要係101的倍數(好像看懸疑片,突然劇情說出一些事前沒提及過的線索,不爽~)
qMg*p2Z)p 知道{101,0,0}和{5151,2550,5050}係答案的話,當然沒問題7I*P2A3b#UT+cW
但原先是不知答案,所以唔知有無失根7w[;Bqt F JH%vs

Cd*bG(H+_g 有時見到題目都感到有點不爽
TD hTp:Z%H-gy,`4} 題目所求的答案是整數,正整數,有理數,實數等等應該說清楚
Z9H;q3v-Z7L"s*t 有些題目,整數解和正整數解分別好大的說,要找出整數解集有時可不是件易事= =

cutec 發表於 2008-1-18 08:26 AM

冇答案ga....
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2條equation solve 唔到3個unknown ga....

Azuma 發表於 2008-1-18 08:56 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]cutec[/i] at 2008-1-18 08:26 AM:
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2條equation solve 唔到3個unknown ga.... [/quote]
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make it simple :S\jxQ8VR-Gw

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sakura310 發表於 2008-1-18 10:22 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]cutec[/i] at 2008-1-18 08:26 AM: d*wHPz FZ L5L
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/K4RZ'Va*rH7Y$` 2條equation solve 唔到3個unknown ga.... [/quote]
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(H})J:y ~ FV 2條equation solve 唔到3個unknown ga
A@R0VeU S l 還欠一個條件,就是3條equation都是linear independent(線性無關)的
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在這情況下,當然是想求n個未知數,至少要用n條線性無關的方程
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如果不是線性的話,有機會1條方程解3個未知數的(這不是每次都可以的啦~)$@'x/z)n9oj Ge
例如 x^2-2(x+8y)+17+4y^2+z^0.5=0 就只有唯一整數解
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不懂的話就問playplay,佢會知答案:dev:

playbr2 發表於 2008-1-18 02:47 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]sakura310[/i] at  10:22 AM:U1Z8wk'ac\,[ F:e

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playbr2 發表於 2008-1-18 02:57 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]sakura310[/i] at  06:47 AM:u7r6z-u T})N-v
捉錯處就唔敢當:e-P(XG tG?
不過,c=101n哥度(解... [/quote]
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都係睇餸食飯姐 , 無理由因為題目冇同你假設就下下大包圍架
Z0~4St"`9Q s_6Z'K:Y 反而適當地調節一下 , 咁會理性好多
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QuiGonJinn 發表於 2008-1-19 03:49 AM

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