[quote]Originally posted by [i]brightlee[/i] at 2005-6-4 12:05 PM:
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otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii.... [/quote]
brightlee 兄, like I said, this is debating, not non-stop arguing.
If God means love, I would like to see some substantial love before I can believe in him. Creating something like Tsunami that killed thousands of innocent people for no reason just won't help the cause.
[quote]Originally posted by [i]rest365days[/i] at 2005-6-4 12:08 PM:
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His purpose is for his own fun and entertainment?? :P
[quote]Originally posted by [i]jason williams[/i] at 2005-6-4 11:49 AM:
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Are you sure that there was no innocent christian that had died from the Tsunami??
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[quote]Are you sure that there was no innocent christian that had died from the Tsunami??[/quote]
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that's the point... you can think of 1,000,000 reasons (including punishment, for fun and entertainment).. but so far no evidence... so i will keep saying that: "i don't know", and infact i only care about the people, what we could do the help them.. \!VY$L EG ~g k
stop here. ;)
[quote]Originally posted by [i]rest365days[/i] at 2005-6-4 12:19 PM:])cE s!?)C2P
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For sure we'll never know his purpose. But this is something that he had done, or could have prevented if he [color=Red][size=4]does[/size][/color] exist.
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Dear god,
Hope you got the letter,
And I pray you can make it better down here.
I don’t mean a big reduction in the price of beer,
But all the people that you made in your image,
See them starving on their feet,6Kt#E}.}+n
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From god,
I can’t believe in you.
Dear god,uo_G0w:o
Sorry to disturb you,
But I feel that I should be heard loud and clear.
We all need a big reduction in amount of tears,
And all the people that you made in your image,
See them fighting in the street,
’cause they can’t make opinions meet,
About god,ucb~^$R.P-iY
I can’t believe in you.
Did you make disease, and the diamond blue? ;_[&Kah@
Did you make mankind after we made you? M |^~'Ry+}
And the devil too!
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Dear god,
Don’t know if you noticed,
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But your name is on a lot of quotes in this book.X9tc7O c`,n
Us crazy humans wrote it, you should take a look,
And all the people that you made in your image,
Still believing that junk is true.
Well I know it ain’t and so do you,
Dear god,
I can’t believe in,
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I won’t believe in heaven and hell.*Ri IK f Z3XpSB
No saints, no sinners,
No devil as well.
No pearly gates, no thorny crown.0K.]#EDk L F.X
You’re always letting us humans down.
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The hurt I see helps to compound,
That the father, son and holy ghost,-O2lW|#_ [
Is just somebody’s unholy hoax,
And if you’re up there you’ll perceive,D b!d c0f
That my heart’s here upon my sleeve.
If there’s one thing I don’t believe in...;ozSj8m
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Dear god.
[quote]Originally posted by [i]singgeihot[/i] at 2005-6-4 12:13 PM:X-S"`?[/I
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Are you sure that there was no innocent christian that had died from the Tsunami?? [/quote]6I2uDl:uz O
sing sing, from a christian's point of view, dying is a way to reach heaven faster, they like dying more than anyone does. no kidding.
[quote]Originally posted by [i]singgeihot[/i] at 2005-6-4 12:21 PM:"} |tN@$V
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For sure we'll never know his purpose. But this is something that he had done, or could have prevented if he [color=Red][size=4]does[/size][/color] exist. [/quote]
如果佢唔存在, 你問緊mud? 問點解一個唔存在嘅神, 無按你嘅心意去行事?
如果佢存在, 點解你唔直接問佢呢? :P
[quote]Originally posted by [i]singgeihot[/i] at 2005-6-4 12:21 PM:
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For sure we'll never know his purpose. But this is something that he had done, or could have prevented if he [color=Red][size=4]does[/size][/color] exist. [/quote]
God arranged the Tsunami on purpose, so he had no intention of preventing it. The occurence of disasters serve the purpose of prophecy, they are there to tell us (everyone) that we have been doing too many bad things lately, and if we keep on doing it, God will bring this world to an end. <---- no scientific theory, just what the priest says
[quote]Originally posted by [i]vivienna[/i] at 2005-6-4 12:41 PM:v!f2U)\ O~{O-d
sing sing, from a christian's point of view, dying is a way to reach heaven faster, they like dying more than anyone does. no kidding. [/quote]
oh really? i don't think in this way wor... i have a lot of things to do, a lot of people to love.. to preach the gospel. 耶穌未返嚟, 唔好偷懶喎:D
pls don't over-generalize things.. and don't speak for others.
[quote]Originally posted by [i]vivienna[/i] at 2005-6-4 12:47 PM:
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[quote]Originally posted by [i]rest365days[/i] at 2005-6-4 12:47 PM:
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如果佢唔存在, 你問緊mud? 問點解一個唔存在嘅神, 無按你嘅心意去行事?
如果佢存在, 點解你唔直接問佢呢? :P [/quote]3x{ [
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如果佢真係唔存在, 我会心安理得好多好多, 世界有幾多慘事我都可以睇得好開好化
但如果佢真係存在, 我会覺得佢做神做得好唔稱職, 人類有個咁嘅創造者應該感到極度遺憾
[quote]Originally posted by [i]vivienna[/i] at 2005-6-4 12:41 PM:
sing sing, from a christian's point of view, dying is a way to reach heaven faster, they like dying more than anyone does. no kidding. [/quote]
v妹, honestly, May their God be with them then....
[quote]Originally posted by [i]singgeihot[/i] at 2005-6-4 12:57 PM:3\g}/JM,j ~ W;\'hu(q
如果佢真係唔存在, 我会心安理得... [/quote]'GKo-k+UU:q[
停留喺自己嘅空想, or同其他人傾, 作用不大, 你都係自己鬧神一餐, 然後聽吓佢點講好D:)
[quote]Originally posted by [i]rest365days[/i] at 2005-6-4 12:52 PM:3tk%U^,TQ Fq
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i am not generalizing, christians take pride of dying. (i might be stereotyping though)heaven is their eternal home and they believe that doing good things and going to church will gain them points. when they die, they feel proud because they know that they have gained enough points to die. they are also not afraid of dying, becasue they know that God will hold their hands and lead them the way. it's an ultimate thing that every christian wants to reach, i hv nothing against the idea, in fact it's pretty sweet. i just dont like the way they force me into christianity when i hv been a catholic for the past 20 years.
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[quote]Originally posted by [i]singgeihot[/i] at 2005-6-4 12:58 PM:
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v妹, honestly, May their God be with them then.... [/quote]
who knows?
it's a BELIEF. and they want everybody to believe.
[quote]Originally posted by [i]史艷文2[/i] at 2005-6-4 03:41 AM:
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唔信就落地獄,仲惡過黑社會:D [/quote] e/t}5RYrx
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我覺得我做人對得住良心, 盡量做到問心無愧, 做每一件事都過得人同過得自己, 信唔信神又如何呢?
[quote]Originally posted by [i]rest365days[/i] at 2005-6-4 01:00 PM:
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停留喺自己嘅空想, or同其他人傾, 作用不大, 你都係自己鬧神一餐, 然後聽吓佢點講好D:) [/quote]-q4vkT,Q*t4i!|6D2Q
我細個試過喇, 佢從來無睬過我, 好無禮貌
[quote]Originally posted by [i]singgeihot[/i] at 2005-6-4 01:04 PM:]2g[0O~
我覺得我做人對得住良心, 盡量做到問心無愧, 做每一件事都過得人同過得自己, 信唔信神又如何呢? [/quote] B!cd+t"hk.W_ a0s
人地耶穌大呀哥話唔能信佢就要落地獄架。幾能惡,HY Jg*LP1a,nX;D$LR
佢理能得你對唔對得住良心,你殺左人再去信佢都會原諒你架, F(Ae y]%L
所以信耶穌大呀哥唔駛對得住良心。