for me, Maradona was the best soccer star (Maybe Beckham is the most famous soccer player, but he is not the star only for soccer; therefore, if I just talk about the best superstar in soccer field, I would like to say Maradona)
but you talk about "球王", that must include skill, achievement, zealous of soccer, behavior in soccer field....
even thought Maradona's skill was better than Pele, I am sure Pele's achievement, zealous of soccer, and behavior in soccer field were better than Maradona
therefore, I would like to choose Pele but not Maradona
[[i] Last edited by F.king on 2005-6-30 at 04:40 PM [/i]] 我覺得比利la!
1.球品好!當年有場world cup比人踢到跛咁滯,都無做d咩報復,專心踢波!
相反馬生....惡行人所共知!
2.對世界球壇有貢獻!Pele係退休後都仲有話幫下手搞下d球壇盛事咁。相反馬生就....
3.梗係要有錦標la!Pele所攞ge世界杯應該比馬勒當拿多...
4.係球壇ge影響力!Pele係任何世界大賽前講ge野都極受重視(特別係佢貼邊隊win果陣)
而且新比利e個名,亦比經常被濫用ge新馬勒當拿矜貴...
以上純屬個人意見 ^^v
[[i] Last edited by MaxFigo on 2005-6-30 at 04:48 PM [/i]] [quote]Originally posted by [i]MaxFigo[/i] at 2005-6-30 04:46 PM:
我覺得比利la!
1.球品好!當年有... [/quote]
比利仲有一個好處...就係
佢估邊隊win,我地估對頭,咁就可以win,幫我地搵錢-.- [quote]Originally posted by [i]jublio[/i] at 2005-6-30 16:09:
比利說過:在我退休之後便是馬勒當拿, 馬勒當拿之後就後繼無人了 [/quote]
但係佢地仲會為爭做球王而嘈囉~
我覺得愈近現代...要憑個人能力贏波愈難...
so我要馬勒當拿
唔係話隊友唔重要...而係外界永遠會將佢地個人既能力黎比較
而且比教既時候...通常都唔係用場外東西黎比較 [quote]Originally posted by [i]joycejo[/i] at 2005-6-30 12:51:
人人都知比利係世界球王,但係本人認為... [/quote]
比利有冇靚波入十大我唔咁講,因為非常主觀,但佢入左1281球,當中就肯定有一個扭幾個,不過唔係WORLD CUP入,仲有MARADONA一個打哂係勁,但踢過波的都知啦,一個打哂係迫於無奈,如果隊友OK,邊個想咁辛苦,MARADONA唔係獨食,係隊友唔掂,相反比利無需一個打哂,因為佢當年D隊友個個都獨當一面,等於今日巴西你死扭不如打組織,既舒服效果又好,但比利左右腳加頭搥都得,比較全面,所以我揀比利 我冇睇過佢兩個踢波,所以唔知= =",但最好就兩個都係球王,唔洗煩 馬勒當拿帶唔起隊波比利可以
馬勒當拿得左腳
比利左右腳 [quote]Originally posted by [i]abc123aa[/i] at 2005-7-1 12:31 AM:
我冇睇過佢兩個踢波,所以唔知= =",但最好就兩個都係球王,唔洗煩 [/quote]
係既,雖然我都未睇過,但大家心目中永遠既都係比利,馬勒當拿好似爭ddddd
不過,球王呢個名字,講真果句,都係大家比面叫聲,係因為佢地既球技,唔可以講到係出神入化,而係做到平時人地未必做到又或是無咁簡單做到既事.
果時聽人講話咩,比利黎到香港踢表演賽,個波都未落過地,就入左龍門,馬勒當拿既靈活走動過關斬將能力ar咁......又或是係係winning 見到佢地既數值全部唔係黃就紅咁,你都會不自覺地覺得"話,呢d 咪球王law "咁....但事實上,球王要俱備既野係咪就係咁呢???
係我心目中,球王除左要係球技了得之外,最重要既一樣野就係球品,小小事就係球場上面發瀾,惹事生非既人,即使你點勁,令過幾多牌都好,你都冇資格做一個受人尊敬既人,你似係一個瀾仔多....能夠係球場上面,做好自己本份,唔做傻事,有咩事都好,盡量大事化小,小事化無,踢出令人睇得開心,快樂而又緊張刺激既足球,咁樣就有資格被人尊稱為球王,因為足球本身做出黎都係要為左令大家踢得開心,也係地球既一種語言.見到d 球員成日抽水,打架既行為,簡直唔要得,能顧及他人既人,就係球王
而球王也都可以係代表果度地方既一個精神領袖,就好似佢就係果間球會,果間球會就係果個球員,任何人也都冇法取代,就好似修咸頓既拿鐵斯咁,呢個也都係球王既其中一個條件 [quote]Originally posted by [i]shaqkobe[/i] at 2005-6-30 02:55 PM:
但係比利超級貪錢。 [/quote]
之前有報導佢唔肯認佢的私生子:cool:
!!!!!!!
我其實都只是從電視的舊片段中看過二人的小量片段不過我記得曾經從一些片段中聽過一些小小分析....唔知啱唔啱...
大家分享下....我記得大約的內容係....
<<< 比利及馬勒當拿都同樣被譽為球王級的球星
但比利在拿取世界杯時候的巴西隊
球星如雲...弟弟...蘇古迪斯(我唔係好記得其他既)等等.....
被譽為當時期世界最強的球隊之一....
亦有多球評家亦認為當時就算沒有比利...巴西亦可稱霸當時球壇
而馬勒當拿時代之阿根廷隊處於青黃不接期....
馬勒當拿加入之前之成績只屬一般....
當時經常是憑馬勒當拿一己之力令球隊獲得勝利....
如論腳法及入球能力....兩人不相百仲....
球品及人品比利比較優勝
但若論對球隊的重要性.....似乎馬勒當拿比較優勝
因比利於其中一屆有參與的世界杯賽事中....
於分組賽事中因被粗野犯規而斷腳..除下賽事不能參與....
但當時的巴西隊仍能奪取當屆世界杯>>>
以上係我大約記得看過的內容.....
不過其實真係好難分邊個係真正球王......^_^
以個人喜好黎講....我比較喜歡馬勒當拿....他實在令人又愛又狠
因我曾從電視片段看過他於對英格蘭賽事中一個扭六個(無記錯既話)
所以印象深刻.....
當然上帝之手我都記得 (實在係一大污點)
[[i] Last edited by tvben on 2005-7-1 at 11:21 PM [/i]] [quote]Originally posted by [i]shaqkobe[/i] at 2005-6-30 01:59 PM:
馬勒當拿 比 比利 更全面。 [/quote]
比利曾經踢過多個位置,甚至守門員也擔任過。
講全面應該是比利吧。 sigh,睇左甘多人都無人講告魯夫既....係我心目中,告魯夫絕對係球王.球技好不在話下,佢有一樣野係比利同馬勒當拿無既,就係製造出球隊既向心力,如果計佢既leadership,佢真係比比利同馬勒當拿做得好....可惜....佢未拿過世界杯
甘多個球王都各有各好,不過個人喜好,我真係鍾意告魯夫多d 其實真係好難分兩人誰好波d,但我覺得比利厲害之處在於,佢好像無敵一樣,3次WORLD CUP冠軍,9次聯賽冠軍,2次WORLD CLUB(62,63)冠軍,入1281球,而所謂球王,唔係只是講本身技術有幾好,而是技術比同期對手高幾多,因為人類不斷在進步中,其實朗拿度可能在速度,反應,射波力度和技巧上都比比利優勝,只是現今球員個個都進步了許多,所以佢在球場上冇比利同馬勒當拿咁得心應手,舉例現今球員100M速度10秒幾非常普遍,但在60年代100M世界記錄都係10秒正,所以我認為比利更厲害是在於佢係佢踢波年代,比同期對手超出更多於馬勒當拿,能人所不能先至係球王(馬勒當拿都係,不過比利更勝一籌) [quote]Originally posted by [i]藍[/i] at 2005-7-2 01:41 AM:
sigh,睇左甘多人都無人講告魯夫既....... [/quote]
仲有一球佢打阿積士歐聯下半場果球金球 [quote]Originally posted by [i]lookityourself[/i] at 2005-7-2 09:39 AM:
仲有一球佢打阿積士歐聯下半場果球金球 [/quote]
告魯夫仲有個球十二碼橫傳入球,就係因為咁國際足協先改例十二碼要一脚過 告魯夫都有D料........話哂係荷蘭球王 [quote]Originally posted by [i]abcde1918[/i] at 2005-6-30 03:05 PM:
但係馬勒當拿技術好過比利呀
你看過 但係我未看過 我又點知佢表現得點樣呀
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你未看過又知馬勒當拿技術好過比利??聽聞當事實? [quote]Originally posted by [i]wanmankit[/i] at 2005-6-30 01:54 PM:
我覺得比利係球王,除左因為佢入球量... [/quote]
對不起,小弟不認同馬勒是踢個人波,86年世盃佢唔只個人表演,亦送左好多靚波比隊友。仲有的人成人話佢球品唔好,其實只可以話佢私生活唔檢點,但佢係球場都冇乜踢過矛波播!至於技術,其實都好難比較,因為唔肯定比利係咪都可以好似佢咁以一人之力改變賽果。但有一樣可以肯定就係,以當年巴西的星級實力,就算冇比利一樣可以捧盃,但係當年阿根廷或者拿玻利冇佢就一定攞唔到世盃同意甲冠軍。就係一為佢有咁0既能力,所以我投佢一票。
[[i] Last edited by 279x on 2005-7-2 at 10:24 PM [/i]] [quote]Originally posted by [i]Raul[/i] at 2005-6-30 01:10 PM:
Of course is Pele. Maradona just famous.
Compared to total goal scored, no one can beat Pele's record until today even Eric Cantona [/quote]
Certainly he is a great player, but one of the main reason is that the other good players (in fact there were many many) in the Brasil team had provided uncountable support to Pele. [quote]Originally posted by [i]terry369[/i] at 2005-6-30 02:03 PM:
球王一定要包球品囉, 場內外的行為等... [/quote]
如果真係要用咁0既標準選球王,就要搵幾個私家偵探24小時監視的候選球王,睇吓佢地有乜唔泗正,邊個去親浦就扣佢分、對老婆唔好扣分、對人冇禮貌扣分、去完廁所唔沖水又扣分,等觀察一年之後先至決定選邊個。