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adamas 發表於 2005-10-25 02:10 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]bwk0317[/i] at 2005-10-24 08:55 PM:t3GhcRe|5r
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093236 發表於 2005-10-25 02:28 AM

不嬲都唔好多鍾意改英文名=.=

andy1225 發表於 2005-10-25 03:12 AM

I'm a mixed and I only have English name, I don't even have a real Chinese name!%X3f.x y{
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The one I have now is just a translation of "Andy" in Chinese. By the way, I don't see a problem with either English name or Chinese name, it all depends on your preference.;)

gettinglay 發表於 2005-10-25 06:38 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]bwk0317[/i] at 2005-10-17 03:14 PM:X.Ad)w"kNXZ6Q[
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austin666 發表於 2005-10-25 09:40 AM

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raj72616a 發表於 2005-10-25 12:48 PM

[quote]英文係國際語言? this concept is worng.[/quote]*Yi6b1H'~.j8g


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[quote]英文 is a popular language, it doesnt mean 'most' HK people should make up
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你似乎連Christian name係乜都唔知喎..\6`T%G1^*Q
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I{d,Y%kK 而且英文名既地位根本就比唔上中文名既地位
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;w{v/L)F#r*V 我會用英文名得黎至少我比你更加尊重我既中文名
4O|D)euI\ 至少我唔會好似你咁用英文發音講:yq3A/P R2|E"OQ4ZG
My English name is: Chan Wing Yang
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raj72616a 發表於 2005-10-25 01:13 PM

[quote]亦曾有無數外國人(包括北歐人,俄羅斯人,東歐人,澳洲人,美國人和日本人等等)
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然後倒返轉頭用中文字寫你個名俾佢睇, 叫佢讀返出黎, 叫佢讀得出先好再問呢條問題LJ-\.Sq
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6Q~EubnL 日文係syllabic既語言, 要轉做羅馬音標準確地讀出黎都唔難
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William (aka Bill)係源自德文(Wilhelm)
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bwk0317 發表於 2005-10-25 03:04 PM

[b][color=Purple]一句說話，閣下的 真正名字就 是你的身份 ！[/color]
2l#KL_s!ik 我都想有番個身份....[/b]
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4.重點係好多英文名有其意思,不係一定係宗教上意思"^ Et1LS Sz'sM
5.以前的人用英文名係有意思的,但衣家90%的人連自己英文名點解都未知S$D!v.C I1v
6.(仲有有好多英文名都係冇意思的,原因同文化,做字有關)1U%mP _s,g/}!M
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of course I know each English (Christian) name has its own meaning/background, in fact everythings have their historical background.
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You said the last generation of HK Chinese people set up an English name 'k,GG7nJLc
(Peter,andy etc.) are ALL having their own special meanings, [b]then what are the 'meanings' you are talking about? [/b]

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bwk0317 發表於 2005-10-25 03:27 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]raj72616a[/i] at 2005-10-25 01:13 PM:
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不過有point, 但有似在拋書包嗎? 離題...
vNk7s0sm 繼續努力! :cool:

raj72616a 發表於 2005-10-25 04:34 PM

一句"離題"就避開我提出既實際問題唔理拿?
G ZCM??*n5D 你將好好地一個中文名扭曲讀音變成一個不倫不類既Chan Wing Yang黎迎合唔識中文既人, 我唔覺同改個英文名有乜分別'V5{6b"Z{![ZX7U
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btw "Christian name" 係你自己提出先既, 我就唯有繼續離題教你乜野叫Christian name
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Christian name二指教徒受洗禮後改既新名
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x~#[;_Q9nn 你口中既Christian name既然係講緊英文名, 我地有常識既人就自然會話你知呢個名改黎係有宗教意義, 而且用呢d名雖然多數都用英文版既串法, 但冇一個來源係來自英國或美國
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至於點解中國人之間都要用英文名?
3eZ/g#k:E*M 我覺得"英文名"作為 花名、綽號 既意義大於作為 "名"o-~&i{#Xtmi
至少我自己唔會將英文名放響代表我身份既證件上
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響前殖民地當中, 我覺得香港已經算係保留本身既語言文化保留得唔錯, 冇話特別崇洋
v;uf*S']"D9w_.V 至少唔似得印度咁, 以英文為共通語言^o:etue
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bwk0317 發表於 2005-10-25 04:51 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]raj72616a[/i] at 2005-10-25 04:34 PM:|N-g3s@(O q9s
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但可能意思係保護羅白, 不是譯名呢?!

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