bigfish 發表於 2005-11-22 11:30 PM
[quote]Originally posted by [i]nashisthebestpg[/i] at 2005-11-22 09:31 PM:
其實有樣野真係唔多明,
點解一d nba球員,好似wade咁,中距離都幾準,
但係3分就真係射得好差,就係差嗰一.兩步啫........ [/quote]
wade 都係十五六呎入面"幾準"jeh, 再遠d就唔得 la
bigfish 發表於 2005-11-22 11:31 PM
[quote]Originally posted by [i]nashisthebestpg[/i] at 2005-11-22 09:31 PM:
其實有樣野真係唔多明,
點解一d nba球員,好似wade咁,中距離都幾準,
但係3分就真係射得好差,就係差嗰一.兩步啫........ [/quote]
你不如問下點解保雲三分咁準, 中距離同埋罰球就咁差啦
韋伯就淨係識射牛角位, 罰球就成日唔入
鄧肯d 45度角射擦版咁掂, 罰球又係麻麻
阿感 發表於 2005-11-22 11:34 PM
講起CENTER,其實GASOL都幾出色,不過好多人都忽略左佢
艾力克 發表於 2005-11-22 11:44 PM
[quote]Originally posted by [i]阿感[/i] at 2005-11-22 11:34 PM:
講起CENTER,其實GASOL都幾出色,不過好多人都忽略左佢 [/quote]
因為加素係打大前鋒囉~ ;)
nashisthebestpg 發表於 2005-11-23 12:08 AM
[quote]Originally posted by [i]bigfish[/i] at 2005-11-22 11:31 PM:
你不如問下點解保雲三分咁準, 中距離同埋罰球就咁差啦
韋伯就淨係識射牛角位, 罰球就成日唔入
鄧肯d 45度角射擦版咁掂, 罰球又係麻麻 [/quote]
Webber今年
MPG FGM-A FG% 3PM-A 3P% FTM-A FT% OFF DEF TOT APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG
39.8 98-219 .447 1-4 .250 49-54 [color=Red].907 [/color]2.7 7.3 10.0 3.3 1.50 1.17 2.67 3.40 20.5
duncan今年
MPG FGM-A FG% 3PM-A 3P% FTM-A FT% OFF DEF TOT APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG
35.3 96-184 .522 1-3 .333 46-57 [color=Red].807 [/color]3.1 8.9 12.0 3.2 .73 2.73 2.64 2.50 21.7
都幾準丫,90%同80% wo
bowen呢d special case,only剩係識得射 0度位三分,無野講,
但係wade係3分線入面差唔多咩位都射到,都幾準下,但係後2步就唔準,有d奇啫~
bigfish 發表於 2005-11-23 01:12 AM
韋伯頭幾年d 命中率都係維持o係45-60%入面, 呢幾年先有躍進
YEAR TEAM G GS MPG FG% 3P% FT% OFF DEF RPG APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG
93-94 GSW 76 76 32.1 .552 .000 .532 4.0 5.1 9.1 3.6 1.22 2.16 2.71 3.30 17.5
94-95 WAS 54 52 38.3 .495 .276 .502 3.7 5.9 9.6 4.7 1.54 1.57 3.09 3.40 20.1
95-96 WAS 15 15 37.2 .543 .441 .594 2.5 5.1 7.6 5.0 1.80 .60 3.27 3.40 23.7
96-97 WAS 72 72 39.0 .518 .397 .565 3.3 7.0 10.3 4.6 1.69 1.90 3.19 3.60 20.1
97-98 WAS 71 71 39.6 .482 .317 .589 2.5 7.0 9.5 3.8 1.56 1.75 2.61 3.80 21.9
98-99 SAC 42 42 40.9 .486 .118 .454 3.5 9.4 13.0 4.1 1.43 2.12 3.52 3.50 20.0
99-00 SAC 75 75 38.4 .483 .284 .751 2.5 8.0 10.5 4.6 1.60 1.71 2.91 3.50 24.5
00-01 SAC 70 70 40.5 .481 .071 .703 2.6 8.5 11.1 4.2 1.33 1.69 2.79 3.20 27.1
01-02 SAC 54 54 38.4 .495 .263 .749 2.8 7.3 10.1 4.8 1.67 1.41 2.93 3.40 24.5
02-03 SAC 67 67 39.1 .461 .238 .607 2.4 8.1 10.5 5.4 1.58 1.31 3.21 3.00 23.0
03-04 SAC 23 23 36.1 .413 .200 .711 2.1 6.6 8.7 4.6 1.35 .87 2.61 3.30 18.7
04-05 SAC 46 46 36.3 .449 .379 .799 2.0 7.7 9.7 5.5 1.48 .74 2.89 3.10 21.3
04-05 PHI 21 21 33.4 .391 .267 .776 1.7 6.1 7.9 3.1 1.24 .90 2.33 3.30 15.6
04-05 -- 67 67 35.4 .433 .341 .794 1.9 7.2 9.1 4.7 1.40 .79 2.72 3.20 19.5
bigfish 發表於 2005-11-23 01:14 AM
鄧肯除左01-01同埋99-00外, 全部都係71%以下, 仲試過低過60%添
97-98 SAS 82 82 39.1 .549 .000 .662 3.3 8.6 11.9 2.7 .67 2.51 3.40 3.10 21.1
98-99 SAS 50 50 39.3 .495 .143 .690 3.2 8.2 11.4 2.4 .90 2.52 2.92 2.90 21.7
99-00 SAS 74 74 38.9 .490 .091 .761 3.5 8.9 12.4 3.2 .89 2.23 3.27 2.80 23.2
00-01 SAS 82 82 38.7 .499 .259 .618 3.2 9.0 12.2 3.0 .85 2.34 2.95 3.00 22.2
01-02 SAS 82 82 40.6 .508 .100 .799 3.3 9.4 12.7 3.7 .74 2.48 3.21 2.60 25.5
02-03 SAS 81 81 39.3 .513 .273 .710 3.2 9.7 12.9 3.9 .68 2.93 3.06 2.90 23.3
03-04 SAS 69 68 36.6 .501 .167 .599 3.3 9.2 12.4 3.1 .90 2.68 2.65 2.40 22.3
04-05 SAS 66 66 33.4 .496 .333 .670 3.1 8.0 11.1 2.7 .68 2.64 1.92 2.20 20.3
bigfish 發表於 2005-11-23 01:17 AM
韋迪成日爆籃入樽, 計埋中距離先得四成五左右, 好大程度係俾佢o既跳投拉低左
所以佢三分%得三成左右真係正常, 奇就奇在佢今年者假聲稱自己會苦練射球, 我仲以為佢今年會好似高比咁有大躍進添
YEAR TEAM G GS MPG FG% 3P% FT% OFF DEF RPG APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG
03-04 MIA 61 56 34.9 .465 .302 .747 1.4 2.7 4.0 4.5 1.41 .56 3.21 2.30 16.2
04-05 MIA 77 77 38.6 .478 .289 .762 1.4 3.7 5.2 6.8 1.57 1.06 4.17 3.00 24.1
05-06 MIA 10 10 39.8 .450 .111 .724 2.5 5.1 7.6 8.0 1.90 .90 4.00 2.90 26.1
shaqkobe 發表於 2005-11-23 01:22 AM
[quote]Originally posted by [i]nashisthebestpg[/i] at 2005-11-22 21:31:
其實有樣野真係唔多明,
點解一d nba球員,好似wade咁,中距離都幾準,
但係3分就真係射得好差,就係差嗰一.兩步啫........ [/quote]
個人認為其實好大程度係一個心理解力問題。如果大家打開波都會覺有時三分踏前一步、半步好似易射好多咁。。
shaqkobe 發表於 2005-11-23 01:25 AM
bigfish又可知否罰球70%並唔係真係太差架咋。。nba好多球員都係70%左右。。80%已經叫好準。
bigfish 發表於 2005-11-23 01:25 AM
以後衛黎講, wade 三分起手真係偏少, 成季先射50球左右, 可見佢係唔喜歡遠射, 我懷疑佢d 3-point-play (and1) 仲多過三分波入球, 今季佢有大約10分1係3分已經算多la
YEAR TEAM G GS MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OFF DEF TOT AST STL BLK TO PF PTS
03-04 MIA 61 56 2,126 371-798 16-53 233-312 85 162 247 275 86 34 196 140 991
04-05 MIA 77 77 2,974 630-1,318 13-45 581-762 110 287 397 520 121 82 321 230 1,854
05-06 MIA 10 10 398 94-209 2-18 71-98 25 51 76 80 19 9 40 29 261
bigfish 發表於 2005-11-23 01:30 AM
[quote]Originally posted by [i]shaqkobe[/i] at 2005-11-23 01:25 AM:
bigfish又可知否罰球70%並唔係真係太差架咋。。nba好多球員都係70%左右。。80%已經叫好準。 [/quote]
我指 duncan 同 webber d ft 如果唔夠70%, 但係某d 特定位置就特別高, 並唔係一個奇特現象, 只係反映 nba 球員都會o係某d 位置度苦練, 練到有慣性手勢, 但要佢o係其他位置入球就好難, 情況好似人地 look 拎咁, 如果d 波擺位唔同, 胡兆康佢地就會打唔中, 因為佢平日o既手勢用唔返
shaqkobe 發表於 2005-11-23 01:32 AM
[quote]Originally posted by [i]bigfish[/i] at 2005-11-23 01:17:
韋迪成日爆籃入樽, 計埋中距離先得四... [/quote]
45%投籃對於一個後衛黎講係一個幾好既命中率黎架。。。。你知唔知架??=.="
你睇下kobe呢兩年都係差唔多呢個水準4成3、4成4左右。。。james得3成8、t-mac得3成5。。。。
無可否認wade既三分係差D,不過我林真係再俾D時間佢啦。。。三年生。交到26分、8助攻、7.6籃板係邊度搵丫。。
shaqkobe 發表於 2005-11-23 01:33 AM
[quote]Originally posted by [i]bigfish[/i] at 2005-11-23 01:25:
以後衛黎講, wade 三分起手真係偏少, ... [/quote]
因為佢唔準丫麻。所以又點會射咁多呢!!
shaqkobe 發表於 2005-11-23 01:33 AM
[quote]Originally posted by [i]bigfish[/i] at 2005-11-23 01:30:
我指 duncan 同 webber d ft 如果唔... [/quote]
贊同。就好似duncan自己D擦板波咁,神乎其技。
bigfish 發表於 2005-11-23 01:36 AM
[quote]Originally posted by [i]shaqkobe[/i] at 2005-11-23 01:32 AM:
45%投籃對於一個後衛黎講係一個幾好... [/quote]
唔係話 wade 差, 不過佢以往廿幾球先起手一次三分, 有d 稀少o者
45%絕對係正常, 但係佢爆籃同入樽(入梗喇掛?!)o既命中率應該超過七成, 如果整體命中率唔高, 只會係佢中距離累事
shaqkobe 發表於 2005-11-23 01:42 AM
[quote]Originally posted by [i]bigfish[/i] at 2005-11-23 01:36:
唔係話 wade 差, 不過佢以往廿幾球先起手一次三分, 有d 稀少o者
45%絕對係正常, 但係佢爆籃同入樽(入梗喇掛?!)o既命中率應該超過七成, 如果整體命中率唔高, 只會係佢中距離累事[/quote]
爆籃、入樽入梗?超過7成???連duncan、O'neal都做唔到啦!!你當nba咩地方呀??如果入梗大把人都狂殺入去啦。。。更何況wade既中距離唔係真太差。如果你俾佢著左火,咁就完全停唔到。。
至於3分少,真係唔準所以射咁少。。如果佢唔準都狂射3分,就真係奇啦:D
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shaqkobe 發表於 2005-11-23 01:53 AM
[quote]Originally posted by [i]bigfish[/i] at 2005-11-22 21:26:
樓主, 韋迪d 三分不嬲都不堪入目, 你睇上年o既佢就知啦, 佢d 中距離真係麻麻, 但係爆籃好得, 佢d 打法似 sf 多過似 sg/pg
damon jones 跟本唔應該放走, 另外換個安東獲加返黎打小前鋒都唔知想點, 不過總好過放佢打大前鋒o既
j-will 又係浪射怪, 好多時 open-look 都唔入, 反而邊走邊射反而入, 所以有冇 o'neal 對佢黎講冇乜分別, 出 payton 好過佢
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D.jone緊係唔應該放既(如果有預知能力既話),不過果時林住要芬利架麻,點知搶唔到搞到賠了夫人又折兵既者。
wade既打法,我個人認為係一個典型雙能衛既打法,羅波之後搵位射法、或者爆籃、有機會就起手,引到夾擊就分波。。唔覺得似SF喎。。。同佢Baron Davis真係好似,三分一樣咁差=.="不過入楔能力一樣係好強,第一步跨入去,好多球員都跟唔上,有良好彈跳力,入樽、放籃。。加上15、6"中距離投射。
至於jason同walker其實依家表現上黎都算稱職,浪射程況比佢地之前已經改善左好多,命中率都過步左好多。不過要改善既係jason要做多D靚既助攻,幫輕wade。至於walker就要加強對抗小前鋒既能力,雖然依家有時walker係防守上面會入返內線守大前鋒,由haslem防守小前鋒效果係唔錯,不過咁樣亦都浪費左haslem係內線既衝搶能力。
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Chenjinnan 發表於 2005-11-23 10:31 AM
你咁講... 即係熱火的陣容唔夠完整...
nashisthebestpg 發表於 2005-11-23 09:10 PM
wade中距離唔準?
就算佢唔係好好嗰隻,都算ok啦,
d人覺得wade射波唔準,係咪因為佢ge鏟籃勁左頭,而忽略左佢ge射波呢?
以一個鏟籃型後衛黎講,佢射波都算係咁啦,
佢onfire嗰時,d中距離真係好恐怖,就算係關鍵時刻,heats都係交俾wade搞掂,
上年都有2球中遠距離buzzer 入左啦~