selena127

總結係葡萄牙,阿根庭同法國再唔換領隊就祝佢地好運

咁大獲 !!!!!!!!!!!!!

arthur8088

it's a bit unfair of blaming the manager only...the players should take some blame as well~~~~
the willingness of a player to play for their country is the main problem

after playing 50+ high level matches with the club every year, they all seemed exhausted....besides physical tiredness, mental exhaustiveness is another issue....i bet all the top clubs has been given huge load pressure to them every time when they represents their countries, the situation is getting worse recently  especially FIFA cannot agree the compensation with the club if players is injured during international level competitions...

The other issue is the importance of international level competitions, it seems that World Cup is no longer the highest level of football competition in the world now....Every player aims to achieve European CL champion rather than WC, (not sure it's because of money, but it's very understandable...) WC becomes a stage for non famous players to convince big clubs to offer them lucrative contracts..

Speaking about WC next year, Argentina seems still safe for next year....as they will go against Peru in next match...and even if they only achieve 5th place, they are still way better than Central America's team....In the Euro one, seems that Germany is the one being forgotten...
They are still the leader in his group, but only leading Russia for just two pts, with Next match, German will be playing the vital game against Russia...They barely won over Russia 2:1 at home...i'm not very convinced that they will get the victory at Luzhniki Stadium easily!!~~

amigofans

原帖由 arthur8088 於 2009-9-10 11:57 PM 發表
it's a bit unfair of blaming the manager only...the players should take some blame as well~~~~
the willingness of a player to play for their country is the main problem

after playing 50+ high level m ...

其實02果年又或者更早已經開始, d人踢到甩皮甩骨先去睇世界杯....

加上而家資訊發達過以前9里, 基本上世杯無左果種一嗚驚人既新星...

相信當年肯尼基亞, 巴治奧, 客麥隆果種震撼已經無晒....

講番領隊,肥馬地位壓一, 佢上手都係不知所謂, 佢似基謹帶紐卡素, 無料但d fans會鍾意...

基羅斯, 其實做副手係戰術方面係非常出色, 但似乎坐正無咩好表現, 加上葡萄牙依樣無好fw....

最後我仍然覺得, 杜明歷, 根本係麥卡倫翻版, 非炒不可也....

wai0818

原帖由 arthur8088 於 2009-9-10 11:57 PM 發表
Speaking about WC next year, Argentina seems still safe for next year....

相反我覺得阿根庭真係會 byebye

阿根庭同第六既烏拉圭相差一分 ( 同樣賽 16 場, Argentina 22 分, Uruguay 21 分)
最大問題係最尾一場要作客烏拉圭
睇番阿根庭作客既成績 , 作客一勝二和五敗 , 分分鐘輸埋比烏拉圭, 連附加賽既資格都無

wai0818

原帖由 filter-052fans 於 2009-9-11 12:08 AM 發表


基羅斯, 其實做副手係戰術方面係非常出色, 但似乎坐正無咩好表現,.....

根本基羅斯只係識用番英超體力型既踢法 , 盲目地用落一向踢開南美技術型既葡萄牙身上

就好似大力臣只係識龜縮,穏守突擊放落英格蘭身上一樣 , 唔識變通 , 一下子唔習慣點會有好表現

arthur8088

原帖由 wai0818 於 2009-9-11 12:11 AM 發表


相反我覺得阿根庭真係會 byebye

阿根庭同第六既烏拉圭相差一分 ( 同樣賽 16 場, Argentina 22 分, Uruguay 21 分)
最大問題係最尾一場要作客烏拉圭
睇番阿根庭作客既成績 , 作客一勝二和五 ...

agree with your analysis, but Uruguay is traveling to Eucador in next match...Eucador will confirm a place if they win over next match...i guess Uruguay will have a very hard time at Eucador on 10th Oct....Argentina is only playing Peru at home on the same match day....

here's a little stat to Uruguay on the road....1W, 3D 4L, even Peru kicked their ass as well~~~
while Eucador has 4W 3D with only 1L at home.....seems Eucador is very solid at home...

If Uruguay cant win in next match, their final match against Argentina will become totally pointless~~(assuming Peru kiss Argentina's ass in next round)

[ 本帖最後由 arthur8088 於 2009-9-11 12:55 AM 編輯 ]

amigofans

原帖由 wai0818 於 2009-9-11 12:23 AM 發表


根本基羅斯只係識用番英超體力型既踢法 , 盲目地用落一向踢開南美技術型既葡萄牙身上

就好似大力臣只係識龜縮,穏守突擊放落英格蘭身上一樣 , 唔識變通 , 一下子唔習慣點會有好表現 ...

我無睇佢點帶葡萄牙, 但印象中既主政曼聯時戰術唔錯, TEVEZ, C7同朗尼既3差擊433我非常欣賞,

反觀佢走左, 曼聯就打番老費最鐘意既4411, 真係.....

無睇葡萄牙好耐, 如果如你所講佢用體力型打突擊, 咁就找死....

印象中葡萄牙防守力非上乖, 尤其比比, 更係麻麻過麻麻....

amigofans

原帖由 arthur8088 於 2009-9-11 12:52 AM 發表


agree with your analysis, but Uruguay is traveling to Eucador in next match...Eucador will confirm a place if they win over next match...i guess Uruguay will have a very hard time at Eucador on 10th ...

佢都講得O岩, 唔好咁腦定, 真係有D暗暗地....

諗到美斯, C7要倍費查之流食薯片睇世杯, 就真係......

另外如你所講如果德國有咩差池, 再抽場德國對法國, 會唔會好好玩?

arthur8088

原帖由 filter-052fans 於 2009-9-11 12:08 AM 發表


其實02果年又或者更早已經開始, d人踢到甩皮甩骨先去睇世界杯....

加上而家資訊發達過以前9里, 基本上世杯無左果種一嗚驚人既新星...

相信當年肯尼基亞, 巴治奧, 客麥隆果種震撼已經無晒....

講番領隊,肥馬地位 ...

i'm pretty surprised with Diego's case...he's like a god in Argentina's football~~thought Argentina would be better under him~~~
Domenich...this guy is a professional dick head ~~~how on earth he still dares to keep his head coach position until now!!!! rumour concerns French FA wanna axe him ages ago, however, they cant affford his buyout contract clause...that's why he's still leading French team!!!

arthur8088

原帖由 filter-052fans 於 2009-9-11 01:04 AM 發表


佢都講得O岩, 唔好咁腦定, 真係有D暗暗地....

諗到美斯, C7要倍費查之流食薯片睇世杯, 就真係......

另外如你所講如果德國有咩差池, 再抽場德國對法國, 會唔會好好玩? ...

that will be fun if Germany Vs France in Playoff~~
but i guess FIFA will do whatever they do in the draw to separate them out...Money and commercial are the king...with C7 and Messi are on the brink of giving a miss in South Africa, Plater will do everything he can to make sure more strong teams goes into final round~~~since everyone loves watching superstars rather than underdog vs underdog ~~~