jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
  ^! c* X) U8 b3 {9 t6 Qcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
3 z* ~( I- m2 y6 u% A2 nwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
1 Q+ N' q# Y1 r7 Bmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 5 m5 [. V+ ?( J( F, o
but why jesus need to do this?
: h% _. w5 R7 q5 e- B+ spunsihment for what???
( n, R4 W0 P  R# `, Efor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
4 \4 m: C: u! w* h; U( atry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
/ I* |& X) w7 `# Y. vbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 1 @1 H/ u& O% C- I, o1 a: E. t
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排$ i" h7 r& v, o/ ?1 _1 w$ Z

  H; o7 G1 b3 A/ N, T. n: n. ?0 X咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:0 Q% T1 a  D4 s% M% Y
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?" e8 r' P9 F) P. n; ?
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case% K4 k: s. u4 O, B7 Z2 i: @
why this happen? just simple........punishment
& U4 ^5 b1 G$ l% h- gmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
% K: ?* V' {: Tbut why jesus need to do this?
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for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus* Q6 r; K& C: u+ i
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers# @# O7 [2 B9 |( J! [
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 1 T2 y9 l# B& L) w& E7 B
what will u do???
8 v4 w2 z! T: k; `9 M3 _just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, / W# d) Y) y3 l1 M, s" |# W8 `

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:0 z4 _6 M# n/ d9 C) y0 |+ o9 R

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* i2 [: d0 g$ r- z4 Q) l* Qbro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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& |8 E* m$ e7 n/ b% [) K議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days; z- \6 n; o! t+ D( E
honestly, if there is jesus, d3 N' _( J, P. g0 p2 Q
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
& W- |  G1 a7 _' l; N" z4 vwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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: \4 q1 d, I& Bjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
. U7 e" @, C, ~* @! {7 n+ q2 Qso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
8 l/ F5 y* E( [# c+ M2 k1 wnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:5 A! f$ H: F1 O8 K2 m
bro singgeihot and rest365days% s3 \* {" s  k) m' o( O- l: g
honestly, if there is jesus% S8 ?. B4 x5 k
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
+ T% ^/ i9 i" C" |4 K/ Gwe can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
0 R4 n. {9 l- z7 Cotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:  U8 u$ Z. y4 z0 I/ |7 j
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: