jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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( |$ x& r3 ]+ b6 \5 Z: {- ]bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
+ E( j. w# Y$ c4 Mcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case) ?$ P: k6 M6 K5 h5 w
why this happen? just simple........punishment: A$ G/ @, q# s/ J* O
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 0 [7 D7 Y9 f' ]
but why jesus need to do this?3 p+ O% D, F! r- A
punsihment for what???* N; f1 K& H4 I  {0 @+ k- N
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
/ g! Y& l* P: S! K9 X/ Stry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers" U  i2 r& C0 H' n
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
" q& f, |- M1 ~; K) ]what will u do???- u* }3 w$ l. V
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:% f" d) h0 H# Z& l4 b5 A: M

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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排9 z9 W: k, v  i

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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
8 k1 \  a) d7 V' U7 f! tbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?! X/ o4 J8 _9 k8 t
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case6 E, d8 N! ^  ~3 X. b% K
why this happen? just simple........punishment- s" d" }! q8 h7 F% u# G
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 4 }' U" p; B. V
but why jesus need to do this?
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  I: D% i" E3 [8 U$ x* h* Rfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus7 G& k& }% d) M5 f
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
1 R% _4 E9 v7 {2 N" m. Kbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u " t( Z. [& f5 w; n# z) O# k8 v) ]
what will u do???
8 {& k! a" S1 Gjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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0 ^3 d1 o; {0 m0 U好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days+ E; L; ?) R" s) J& h; m
honestly, if there is jesus
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we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:1 G) b  H- O) D/ a) D/ `$ A) A
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: L6 Q! N' h# }好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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$ D, X/ ]2 q: `+ A, [. H) O7 kyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life3 S7 ?5 Z2 O$ A, t3 C
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
0 i% D- g$ [* Wso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......" |- t# f4 x  j) G: \! n% a
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:- ^% v- B5 N: E  ^* Z! _( i8 c0 _  l0 b5 A
bro singgeihot and rest365days
% `2 H$ Z6 r$ t7 h, e- @1 ohonestly, if there is jesus
: e; A& j; _% b- Jhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
+ B6 d) d; k0 \1 cwe can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics; N$ K$ Z  k% p7 H4 |, Q0 @
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
+ z6 U4 B" s% s: \6 K; S自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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6 J+ c9 t7 r) v" o9 ahaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: