jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:6 f. r1 y  J, ~/ ]0 C+ I
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架7 c( G# J- _8 T
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4 y  h4 y& B. R- s8 |6 hbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
* k6 d8 \+ K, i0 |( B  Wcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
" t/ h, p: x; ~; m, H; Bwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
1 m; ]; f! G& T! tmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
; k# M& K9 j" N: Xbut why jesus need to do this?
! O8 V0 q" P6 N5 ^punsihment for what???
9 q. |1 a1 x+ n" i' Hfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus' m% b- T# o% T0 H- j/ U0 l: _
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
3 Z, P+ `3 V1 w: P  M8 w  Qbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u ( `" T; ~4 N8 l. K2 z
what will u do???
& m* ?: ?1 s; D" Ujust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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8 g) U' u% N; g- H% ], oyes, what did u think is what i...

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3 {) @* H6 U: s5 T6 p) I- [咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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) `( ^4 Z1 q2 \. |/ @但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排) T0 I7 |! c. ?3 A4 }
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:. ?- \8 u$ j: H" ^! `3 {6 E
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?& @' G$ W1 a" u) q8 f
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case' F, N9 O! [/ o5 l5 ]' t# b  s$ ^
why this happen? just simple........punishment
8 h. k# r8 |8 K4 r: g& Nmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 5 m* z( g9 S+ m. ~7 i
but why jesus need to do this?
9 E. D8 ]& S0 r0 G$ }  v% o% a: S( Z5 Upunsihment for what???
' t5 N8 t  w$ W4 |( V2 Vfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
4 T7 ~4 m' r) C  g' O6 Z% Gtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
0 [% q- |+ ^# s; [but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
5 N2 `3 }% N' p$ j9 r1 I$ x, Qwhat will u do???
6 r+ |* I. i- k9 [9 e7 |: ljust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 6 q* C' C3 H3 ]

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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9 {1 u  K3 @6 M* pbro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 ; C7 j" q" }9 a. k% J7 d0 @3 p

2 a" y# a4 n5 y2 _7 ^3 d" y$ V9 w# a, i議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days0 s6 c3 R: }" Y6 q! x
honestly, if there is jesus. Q" Y3 Y5 a4 k4 p% ?/ n/ M) I; C
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
, O! n4 }( ~1 f7 |5 |# zwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:0 T: ]- N* @& L+ K) \& g2 T

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7 }; J; k( i0 }( @" }yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
& i3 X5 e, N! i3 t6 k: p0 t5 Njust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
$ F' D! i2 `8 [5 x- F% P; L0 {so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......5 v+ z0 b. F3 N9 }+ ^  q
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
7 [4 S7 H+ z* b* L' Nbro singgeihot and rest365days- W3 y1 Q$ m# t, [
honestly, if there is jesus
! c4 ~1 j) }7 g" w3 ~* m+ s" c6 g) Khe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus6 ?: X9 {8 |; w8 F/ @2 c8 i' h' `
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics5 Q* T* o1 Y0 E' a$ f
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:6 ~  A3 P8 k( R: x; x
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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. Q- R) `+ ?' |' Xhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: