jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:1 D; B$ o" U+ E- {7 L  z8 J
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架* A1 T) t& X& A# m* h  \
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! X5 K, ]; D& N2 U* y. h4 Ubro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
! S* {/ t) I( j5 Hcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
, l& o3 X) V9 s# K; w4 Xwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
6 O% ]  d8 a  N3 d" k, amany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
. R; Z# @2 I: f) p) w6 w; nbut why jesus need to do this?
0 z+ c3 N6 E7 s) V7 u2 Z' Vpunsihment for what???8 H5 |5 D# j7 X! y3 W( {& ^
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus; R% H6 W3 Q7 t' x: I  A( @
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers- y. W2 x$ u- [6 ~' d, B
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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1 P. s0 s, ?2 a$ z5 q  \但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:2 R* X2 E) W/ i% D; Q2 y: P- G
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
. p. {3 h% X; Mcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case: ~9 ^1 S% {7 v: I$ v, n
why this happen? just simple........punishment7 C9 _% h. f8 B1 U& V6 z. g
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
! g$ \5 s" j9 K& |but why jesus need to do this?4 R8 ~1 E' C7 h8 k* [
punsihment for what???
: J4 c* A# q; u3 _; a/ Pfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus- f. U( |6 C* z# a5 M4 ]5 X/ g
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
" R/ [+ ~0 L5 f2 ]# z5 ebut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
* K  d& R0 I  [0 b0 B: Dwhat will u do???
! o$ m6 h6 ~$ ?$ w+ Ajust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, * f; e5 i; u( b; Q

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:8 n; Y' i) C) M% p
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days* g- V7 p7 y  Y5 R5 @) |5 i+ ?
honestly, if there is jesus. a( D8 A/ j, m2 a
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus: w. k' m) m1 `; c  T
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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* p4 F7 B4 I3 L3 |4 ~/ q* P好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
& V1 y9 l$ l, o' e9 |) T. y. [just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
6 c/ D' T1 ^' H; w8 ^so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
8 C, c; p( B# j6 Cnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:; K8 c- P4 Y& A  U3 z6 B/ _% {: k
bro singgeihot and rest365days# ^8 a/ N  M2 K
honestly, if there is jesus8 Z( ~# G* t1 Q. D' ]3 S
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
. l1 Y" o  L8 Y) \* Iwe can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics% Q- S- {& e/ P, N7 k4 ]
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:- I9 E6 e8 k  n
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: