jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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) L& e6 m7 S; ]3 j7 S2 i- {/ J4 a) kbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
# J8 ^% g+ n! d: }0 ?' D& a$ Ccomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case/ ^" L. r0 _  ?1 b, B% \# e
why this happen? just simple........punishment/ r2 Z8 g4 h- F$ P
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
+ J" X( M! y- v5 y- dbut why jesus need to do this?: a- b* [5 R  D& ?' o
punsihment for what???) X6 \+ D/ T- X
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus% Q( b5 o4 P! q3 i; {4 S
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers$ t# a) Q1 l. i$ k& ^
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
7 ~" H* T+ B9 {what will u do???
5 @8 O  e6 S4 Mjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉4 }6 Y  Y. r8 [% q

9 D+ `" v  _+ M* ]" \但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排' e( R$ D+ i8 r+ [4 y& K' d; z

0 a4 {: @9 n! z4 F9 o咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:# E1 `# |# O4 g  b# v/ G  n
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?+ b# N0 G. v5 A
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
1 G% |! e: k& U; Pwhy this happen? just simple........punishment5 ], j4 f- {9 ]4 l1 L4 M
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ; X" t1 T7 k3 Z+ C. w" z
but why jesus need to do this?
1 j3 u8 S: ?  x* q+ Ypunsihment for what???
1 b- j  B  i+ P( P" D. G0 i2 Rfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
8 C' H% g* M4 G5 k+ j' N- Rtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
/ L+ |4 Y9 U4 ]8 q( |: [but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
% M% I8 D/ c) H. C4 G) ^5 dwhat will u do???! o0 y% C" V6 R- g  n
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:* s. `9 p* v2 B: }8 ~5 L

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& B0 c+ e$ M2 \0 y好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days8 s+ ]* F8 u  {! ^
honestly, if there is jesus, ]' ^* {$ u( a4 V* I$ o! [9 H9 n8 [# H; s
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
. C" \, _# B, F  Z" I7 twe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:" \- h$ O  ]% h

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, _5 k, o: u9 A2 V1 A/ v6 O; O* J好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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& f4 S7 K  u* p* p7 ~0 `yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
6 D7 m/ C% v2 m; s9 Vjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
: a* p# U5 Q6 f; I* Q8 m, vso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
# o, G; p) P1 v& [& e: }; g7 know, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:% \$ H, s3 k1 r
bro singgeihot and rest365days, Z' Y7 t0 p, Y1 D
honestly, if there is jesus
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3 X6 n. O% n: f5 L2 Awe can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
3 q/ M2 W& |# h3 w* botherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
' I% ]8 l7 G3 J* j5 W, N: O6 E自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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$ O9 {' F3 w1 M. Hhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: