jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:! ^& N' v* K3 Q$ p3 {2 I6 W- |
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架1 F3 c% j' B& ?/ K
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
( ~2 L8 c  ?! W6 Y4 Y8 \comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case3 m2 o9 P6 V5 d+ U. B. b- C( k2 o
why this happen? just simple........punishment
, c/ |7 s9 N3 q" \: p# H4 u6 Fmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
' L& a3 F# I) S& G$ v' s* ~but why jesus need to do this?# T, k6 m! L1 z7 D  X+ w, j* }( W
punsihment for what???
! T$ C4 T. ]* @6 Nfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus" E/ r  t2 v* r4 L% Y5 j
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers2 w# S: I9 D7 |$ y/ O+ u: U7 q/ s0 |
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u % X6 H. d6 ?- S+ X# ^" |& O: Q
what will u do???
5 j  i( o* u+ Q, D- Xjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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, x: E8 f7 f& o咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排) i$ H  a' @# e* X) T* W5 s, e" y# S- b
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:" o. R1 U$ x+ {
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?7 j- C' O) C! N: _
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
5 l; t/ u  m& {, l/ f( w8 j$ Swhy this happen? just simple........punishment
9 i/ r  y+ y0 Y) kmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
, I1 I& I3 z* R/ F! {' H5 ybut why jesus need to do this?
8 ~! b: B- l0 U8 ?6 d, E9 apunsihment for what???& y. n9 I# y; h' z
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
3 A2 |5 @5 [0 Ntry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers5 `8 V. @) Z5 q
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 6 u6 V6 n. ~; I5 W* J3 A$ H: `
what will u do???
& e: ]. I# `7 qjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, $ x" \& t8 {0 j0 G

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1 i, g% @3 o9 V/ fsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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  j% ?" h- I9 s* w! p1 lbro, did u know that there is a...

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7 A5 T2 r" {! h! U# a好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 5 t1 i) K, X% E) U

" ?0 R$ @/ F: V$ A- y6 K. F議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days8 Q' y% K6 H3 i% h. a  Y
honestly, if there is jesus
+ u9 a7 ~; E" X2 qhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
  u  D- A& x+ r( vwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
. }# O7 D$ A+ ^  b+ Q( ]9 Kjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
, u2 \) g$ A8 n) t5 B& `1 Bso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
8 q) K0 W' f" {( `now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:7 D& S/ j7 Q4 f( }3 I4 u; }
bro singgeihot and rest365days. _4 F  z. s: T8 H
honestly, if there is jesus; l( |' ~& {# M. Y1 S' {* ?9 {% k
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
' Q3 N3 z5 I: `) v- e+ E9 U! R! K: G; Uwe can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
  U2 @# v# C  A1 k自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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) T! ^# V# \- w" U7 s* N8 ~' h/ n" yhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: