jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:8 l" j8 I  r. w1 d6 u+ l& o
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架( R. `' c, e, X6 \5 S! t5 I
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+ f/ ^. W5 K- j( M! o5 Q) s: dbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
" H1 G) {4 ^3 t; vcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
1 x/ h# N3 R9 L4 l+ [* l5 m! ^why this happen? just simple........punishment
* d0 t0 ^0 P1 l; C! z" Ymany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
3 _6 G# m9 @: `, d# c* E. ~( abut why jesus need to do this?6 A5 N6 j/ G1 z5 h/ e) @
punsihment for what???. Z1 G/ E* I7 N; K' V
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus, I8 k. v* b2 G7 C
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers- u- `4 z8 ]0 S1 G5 i4 C) ?3 @3 X
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 3 P' I! @8 O, r1 }+ {# z8 q# W
what will u do???
9 e1 y6 ^4 P( n7 x& C$ q4 e4 S. j7 e0 |8 Djust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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6 z) c% |4 r6 j6 M% |+ kyes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉( n) m( ?# e+ E1 W% N4 `; r4 I9 ^$ Q

$ w# f# ?& P' N& m2 h但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排0 p* [5 V+ ]- j& z8 s
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
6 a/ V2 G: ?! O5 M% _bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
! R0 z: x) N' ]) k/ Mcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case8 }: x/ Y/ l% H7 @  y0 Y1 G6 d* B
why this happen? just simple........punishment" ^* W0 j/ n0 ~( j5 m  E$ ?
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
* B! `0 K4 n* Wbut why jesus need to do this?) P! F* P+ ?$ n
punsihment for what???/ H0 h! [( F( e. K# P: x
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus& S- p5 R% _  @  q! k# Y
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
9 h( A+ g+ M9 N; y. z7 @but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 2 `+ c% P6 t1 q/ S; V
what will u do???
! q# r3 O( @. q* X5 jjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:2 r4 S) e$ p7 w) `# I0 \

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$ l3 b+ n# O0 ^, G/ ~4 L; q' q  t$ dbro, did u know that there is a...

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2 y8 a$ J& n7 f0 i& ~/ \好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 3 `5 s3 Y: W' [5 x- R8 b- R

: n- U; P6 n# l. k4 u議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
0 ?4 _9 k: L: }) y& @honestly, if there is jesus
, o# V: _" A9 o, }( g/ ?7 R/ Jhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus5 p! d" ]4 I1 L$ W+ z1 X) ^2 ?
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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6 S. u0 X# J" H% Xyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
6 c# u4 Z/ F: {% D  e; s3 Njust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it% U' s5 M0 m: P2 |: v! v
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......+ l; K$ X. q" B
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:. p/ ]7 W% l. t5 y" T
bro singgeihot and rest365days3 I6 J0 B- a. N6 T' |9 w  M
honestly, if there is jesus$ T/ |9 I; N& }! u  j" L1 a) t) p7 V
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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. }. t. l8 X3 F/ qunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
# j# `0 N7 ~% A/ o% e2 y! s8 G& T& wotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
7 f. t& s* f# o, V8 |3 R, l+ @自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: