jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
; Y" ]/ e9 E) w- P仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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8 b- f! G' L# f* l1 I4 }* r+ nbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
' l) P9 y: w/ tcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case8 Z" o/ t' _& O
why this happen? just simple........punishment
* t1 K) O4 f+ s* \% g( G+ a1 v+ Vmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things / I4 o* F- L! W6 h5 N7 A# A5 U/ `
but why jesus need to do this?
: \1 d( q. `: E" G% y+ bpunsihment for what???+ y! r1 ]4 q$ O0 Z" _5 l
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus3 K3 x/ k* `: P" `2 D! t( G0 `
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers( G# [6 P1 X/ n" q% O4 \: J
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
4 S6 D( U$ t: h& i+ b# S4 q0 mwhat will u do???
1 C4 h1 y. I. `. z, Zjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:% P2 `' |- \) c* k
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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% m- o0 [! z: C* n但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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$ q2 w' I7 p" X. ^! x" V咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
5 T' J# J, }* c2 ^bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?0 N7 b: S6 A" s# {  l( n; r$ j
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
! }6 V& s) R% q" _& @why this happen? just simple........punishment
3 Y$ ^/ L: i# S# Y. I; p5 kmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
: ?9 G1 L5 a6 ~6 h! z8 h% a# ?# R, `but why jesus need to do this?
3 W9 T1 I  f1 ~( O$ \punsihment for what???
7 W3 m6 Y) \8 P, S& a6 wfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus: W; v3 [9 j+ J( ?: f2 O4 G% N
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers4 f& C+ p0 p$ E  I
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u % @3 T9 P1 w5 ?4 v# H
what will u do???7 i# S6 k$ T+ ?# J4 V: {
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 0 R' M! [, n. V3 r) C0 @) t9 G! t  i

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:4 b" j- g" \" z
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: f# y# q+ i5 r% S3 kbro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
% h' j( C* a; U) k& d3 K4 \. H1 hhonestly, if there is jesus
5 L  V( U0 q* A" p* the really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus4 X) L$ m2 R- ~) h7 D
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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7 k% g1 E: N6 X8 |yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
0 S- [$ A( g. O2 B2 q  z$ Jjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it: ~, t# L+ f' f2 b+ F
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:  M- r& X" R+ Z, O7 d9 R8 c
bro singgeihot and rest365days* L0 {% j$ W" m& y+ L3 \
honestly, if there is jesus
5 d! S7 z! G1 B+ ^6 k5 O  Rhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus7 z6 A$ _- |6 n% E8 C) Y) T, y0 \
we can't blow him :cool:

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% P2 l8 G$ G3 R$ _. h& J3 r% a7 V  g% Munderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: