jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
7 h8 s5 d. E) v5 {仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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5 q: g% C0 B1 G$ m# \/ t2 |* {5 ~bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
  n, o) K# K% Q( ncomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case7 h( t) [( V2 t2 P" S
why this happen? just simple........punishment1 k9 @$ t# N' f2 B1 z/ V
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
: R" ]' X: @6 t( j1 sbut why jesus need to do this?. u" K5 ?( r. \6 R: N' W8 t
punsihment for what???
$ V0 D- b* n# I! S4 z% }7 V/ O' `+ Efor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus/ Z' z1 ]4 D3 X* m1 ?$ f
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers& e. g2 G4 R6 t$ F; q
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 9 ]7 a- m6 G4 [! J4 g; y& ]
what will u do???5 z8 e. m' o3 C; S" q" q$ w$ A
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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. h4 W" ~1 K% ^/ @yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排9 w6 b) R* O. J# A

. O/ [; @5 Q2 O( _9 \, k& a: W2 i咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
: F9 t  @1 a4 W/ qbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
- c5 j' k0 r1 jcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case( p8 _  f# [6 R3 V& c/ G
why this happen? just simple........punishment+ D* N4 d8 J3 _1 F, ~
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things & L9 d) e/ E6 ?) `3 h. `  \9 c
but why jesus need to do this?9 u1 n4 B3 `% G' ]1 O+ A* r
punsihment for what???
( G* @; v3 l0 ^% e. p! M" }/ Ifor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
0 b/ Q0 q* e6 b8 Atry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers" c$ O! j; `: g* i+ O
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u ; w8 X/ H( L- i3 N
what will u do???& N' s7 z- S/ J
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, / i  @  x- K/ D) {! w

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:8 e5 H  _' s. u& c
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 * q; g, d$ l1 Y5 E- n7 K: O5 u8 {
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
/ D3 l7 H/ ^0 ~" n  Khonestly, if there is jesus6 F! u( a# m  _0 h0 m5 b  J, P
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus" y  @$ i( O( o
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:8 ?  X8 M; T' S0 M
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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  I5 u2 K) s/ i/ F0 r- S  W* qyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life; f4 P: T2 P7 k4 Q) F
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it$ S# M0 J  G- H; ^0 c- Y- z
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:2 t, {. P) g5 K9 i
bro singgeihot and rest365days
( S9 a1 W4 G1 a. F( ?honestly, if there is jesus
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we can't blow him :cool:

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% v  V8 I6 V! {8 Zunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics( T" o  t6 E, H$ n
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:, l& t2 K; x" Y9 u
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: