jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:9 o3 X9 v; l) v* L' h- i& m
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架$ A2 r$ \: k0 g
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?* R9 j9 U5 q9 A5 e; r# N. D; {; f5 t
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case) X: I! G# \7 F3 b
why this happen? just simple........punishment, z& v) R. O- T0 J
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
. M: e6 }7 ]% B! [; s! X; g% {/ vbut why jesus need to do this?
; O7 _) b4 H' m4 |punsihment for what???
% X; }1 O8 Y- N/ y, H; Jfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
9 o4 M8 o. e0 X, G9 Ntry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers' H  R" i; c* z: t7 ^
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u $ q  m! d8 r, ^  e
what will u do???
/ a5 u* Y/ c; a7 l$ e  bjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:: o' }& E7 c1 J9 J- n' x
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉2 o' m' t  B* b

3 r; s  p$ j, a. B. e( k9 [; y但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排# g3 d! l- P8 `6 f4 }
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:7 O. W/ j+ S3 W6 N* d
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
1 y$ E9 A. u6 ^: E) z3 ycomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case( T+ x0 k& P& z6 N
why this happen? just simple........punishment
+ i: Y& p  A2 e( Amany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
# ], a8 [, k7 ?) r7 @4 h3 fbut why jesus need to do this?
0 u5 o% u9 x- V- R$ B6 \punsihment for what???
; \' l; K* a6 _& o6 O; Qfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
0 S( l7 @5 [; I" U( Q2 ?9 l8 ntry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
" a! u# R5 a, ^! Bbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u & h8 B2 U/ g5 ^/ I8 T
what will u do???/ b/ F% C! `. U) U* f* |0 w: u
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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$ k* _+ Y3 `! L6 d1 U! e3 qsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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  L/ @+ G* _0 M4 d2 rbro, did u know that there is a...

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" p& ^# [$ |. d# b& Y" J6 X0 G好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 / c; u& u" @2 ~* K

$ ^3 Z0 L3 {) ~$ a3 I% Y議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
" k- I" g# I' a9 V# D7 lhonestly, if there is jesus! P- h6 g* b2 d
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
  s' o0 [2 ~3 jwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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9 l. B: E) {* f- L4 Y# Z好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life* `6 W- z5 t0 Y% k
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
1 d+ O% ?9 k: R1 eso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......2 R; G. U# K5 l6 _+ m( i- c
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
( I4 ?8 `* ~: w3 R( O% r1 G! Bbro singgeihot and rest365days( @6 S( `% B/ {
honestly, if there is jesus
  r& b# s+ i# |$ K1 h* xhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus# a8 D- I/ ~' j# Z7 r$ x' W& s
we can't blow him :cool:

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( U* Z. {* B/ C" runderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
2 ]0 S5 n* Y2 k; K# y  Botherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
) {5 o" @# y* y自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: