jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:/ a  z& C1 r4 M0 y
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架) y* L/ p, L( R& x/ [: T& v; u% e
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* k5 U. A$ r. x( s4 F+ tbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?  \7 Q( k: \0 ?7 x" V9 [
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
& L; S* f! D1 F/ A9 c7 P; t6 Owhy this happen? just simple........punishment
" u6 n% j9 D$ U- j  D' Pmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ' a9 _: w- E1 L) q. Z: Z' u/ e# m
but why jesus need to do this?1 H3 [$ E* G' G! N& e, V/ g1 U
punsihment for what???
5 h5 }8 B1 m% @4 M7 A; {for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
5 \7 I6 D2 ]% v+ `1 etry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
7 P8 E4 {- u; C4 N8 {% s5 ]- m' Jbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u % a9 k4 x& d# Z, I
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:* l: I% i4 I$ S, D7 r

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉* r; H$ R' P+ q
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排' }; {$ @5 y2 n

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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:) _6 N) M7 ]2 q' z3 G, X. P9 l, ]
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
4 I2 j1 d" Q: u# O0 l: @comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
7 J& R4 A7 T; M1 F1 z5 Z! hwhy this happen? just simple........punishment$ I. `$ s' m' X- d$ [! G' K
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 9 V0 m( S0 n1 q: ]
but why jesus need to do this?8 A) @, r$ _9 g. c- @
punsihment for what???2 H" h( n9 Y1 e
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus+ y( g# t' F; v- x* S
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
$ }! f2 _4 h% |' @/ S  W5 F# Dbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
, V& u1 z" N: R/ ^6 `, B7 Ywhat will u do???$ f7 @& R6 d) D" g" d" k# J* q
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
: t: M( t+ a; whonestly, if there is jesus2 O+ L* ~% g/ u. p3 I' `
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
0 }! R) \' g+ {) I) }* J" Bwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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' ]6 U- G4 h! \8 i) q$ J% lyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life9 _9 Z9 X: e& N5 X4 _2 N) S( u
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
4 D  p4 f- \4 H, S* Iso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
! G. P# |3 K( y1 T& M+ I0 I! Bnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
+ l$ k1 ]5 X  Y6 Obro singgeihot and rest365days
1 X) ]9 R5 z3 q8 Bhonestly, if there is jesus1 k* o0 ]5 r+ {9 W" k! m) P# i& q6 M3 w
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
+ l. D1 p$ Y+ W: ]+ W1 Z  Nwe can't blow him :cool:

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+ d# ]0 T  M6 T3 G7 Hunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:, w/ r! L' X+ {; d4 A
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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0 r/ U0 v  |- E! D5 Q  \& I- L, Dhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: