jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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7 b) }; E9 L; e6 r+ ybro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?- F; D7 n8 a5 D# }
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case! i8 j7 A8 k9 G' c# u, M1 R
why this happen? just simple........punishment
" ~% \2 _' M; {, z- E, _many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things & L8 J8 }# [+ f9 i: K" r, I
but why jesus need to do this?
4 J- c& T- A" jpunsihment for what???' R; ]) ?: M2 v7 b7 W% \: r% \
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus3 v) ~& Z8 o; n! ^  m6 Z
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
5 s4 ]! \# k+ wbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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% Z! K' B4 k; l1 |! _just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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) F. ?, J4 U# y$ Iyes, what did u think is what i...

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( B5 \0 C7 C8 Q; X1 W咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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7 \# c; V! K0 y但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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" M, v' T3 y9 L5 O  k; g7 }# `咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
" O# t1 j# r. B4 k0 Wbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
2 a/ b0 ?* y# t, R  t1 ^$ t- U3 f7 dcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case' U2 |" O' R' N# o3 y, Y
why this happen? just simple........punishment
0 r7 }6 A0 @  N) j4 `! Y6 ~4 G6 Cmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
* X+ d. O( I  i( K4 h$ W: mbut why jesus need to do this?4 s- @, J" C6 P9 P
punsihment for what???- l- F# C% t8 W$ G3 g
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus5 `" u+ d# p0 T; u) d: v* B
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers. y2 F: r' X, q4 \! n
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
7 y3 g+ a+ L0 e: \/ r! E+ z3 gwhat will u do???
) j" L3 S9 N: Sjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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, E! I8 Z. m$ p9 K9 S4 dsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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- Y" k9 B+ a/ o9 L0 ?: u4 Cbro, did u know that there is a...

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9 e+ ]9 B' K3 L* R4 W好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 ( H1 k$ w# b2 o% Y! p% K% U! E

  F: m5 T8 G  L* ]議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
) Q* F2 d- w. L7 ^2 h2 Khonestly, if there is jesus: H" C; v% ?8 ]
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus$ m( E# H/ R0 ^/ L4 Z8 u" y
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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: X$ w6 c" R% w5 iyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life* u: Y1 j+ M0 m  h0 b$ x0 y* F" Y
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
( a! ]6 n+ Z# T( K9 aso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......( g- E  x. v# E- I- H2 L9 d
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:0 ~) I1 p7 |! S$ \5 _7 {% i
bro singgeihot and rest365days
8 T7 |: i7 N: s/ _honestly, if there is jesus9 A! R- K. I5 r9 R( Y+ J
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus4 z! h# I+ L0 \  f" U- X
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
9 r. L1 l& Q( V3 Xotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:* h& H! x3 X7 d; O- J* g
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: