jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:  w! Y7 y3 b' |5 ]" K1 o1 K% j
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?3 T1 |/ v6 v8 Y9 C+ z7 U
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
' f7 x3 z6 `' P# k3 o& Uwhy this happen? just simple........punishment/ b- W# [, b/ H1 d) N
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
8 i; h& Y5 e8 Wbut why jesus need to do this?8 C# q% e: k6 B0 \  B/ E
punsihment for what???
# b, W$ x2 i; Nfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
( q6 y+ {9 ]9 M% P" s6 H' s, wtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers5 V3 V0 c5 i2 t! i( `
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u / O+ \; ^6 n6 X9 _$ c
what will u do???
4 ~. z  k) H/ d% e- ejust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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0 ?2 U. U, \% L5 Z1 H! r! M# x  S咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉" |% \: C; h3 T, j3 o$ l7 \

# }8 j# y3 D; E3 @' v& R& c" s但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:0 N4 y  }  y% [* a0 L
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?2 I5 i$ x8 o& p1 i/ G# o
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
, n6 n- p* M' I) Qwhy this happen? just simple........punishment, m. q+ ~0 _6 j# b; [
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
5 b1 T" n- Y7 Rbut why jesus need to do this?
+ D. N3 z  `& {) w# j8 c+ Dpunsihment for what???3 a8 h( h4 `) w5 c7 J5 f
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus- u; f1 r4 e8 b& b( ]" N
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers# \# g1 k  }# P9 C. @" E: j
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 4 f# j  x# o/ c/ }
what will u do???
+ I. b3 |% O& ojust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, + b% Q8 H) T  \

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; \+ p! N/ r5 t8 `sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:/ [5 Y* X/ h& ^
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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% c- c- V- E8 X好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 $ z8 K' n6 S" l' `8 W/ D
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days/ l- X3 f7 t/ h( A6 ?" C
honestly, if there is jesus
0 n8 x! ^& I  F% d! Mhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
6 T7 {/ B- Q# P6 r% {we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:, O/ t9 d6 u  W" Y# Z$ q. k* p
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
" V2 c0 R: c( w4 W/ k  Y" F2 \just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it- k) B2 h. g$ i  E1 T
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......0 k8 Z( l0 |$ F1 r
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:) Z4 i' h  K% A- N: L/ ?' ^+ X
bro singgeihot and rest365days2 e, q9 h( u" x$ R0 ?- q( Z+ ^* t
honestly, if there is jesus9 Y9 r" Q* y! _  ~( P1 G& r, g
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
% ~. L+ g+ ]; S6 ^6 iwe can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
. n7 Y* H  p5 U. d( I( Hotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:5 Q' V( ~( Q6 m; N) m
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: