jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
& J6 ~' }" N) ]: p: }( l, D8 F仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架1 k8 X! S" p$ G
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- g, B! C7 m/ i8 H' X- Ibro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
7 s9 M2 d$ |( y) z: d" o: Xcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case+ z) p7 q7 c  P$ S* J) t- t
why this happen? just simple........punishment
' e7 X3 s: H0 f# f5 ~many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 7 l* |! e# V/ i8 U/ d
but why jesus need to do this?4 B  l( Y/ v. F$ o, n: p
punsihment for what???, L- T$ t; `  H! {
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus+ ^+ ^. u8 r5 K' {9 a
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
+ F; c& D! E  Bbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
+ M- [$ i2 ]! L& B: c0 |what will u do???
( Z- P: w. r. qjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:8 V- \: B) D* b$ l

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9 L: }: J; o: T3 O! @yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排/ z7 |1 G( v  O2 t4 S
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:, J7 J3 {; p. y! J* q
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
9 P. J+ Z1 E% J0 v9 _' p( }comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case4 R. N' X; w& k) p: R  @2 ^
why this happen? just simple........punishment6 }, N. S' J9 Z0 D# H3 a" C
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
7 w5 t0 Z. w9 a: }( I9 Tbut why jesus need to do this?  [/ j. {1 F5 e& Q* h
punsihment for what???2 _0 V  Q% h& g  e  n! l
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus5 q! K; `4 @! L
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers/ D+ F2 j3 ^1 }
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u . V* K4 @' ~5 ~7 v- ~
what will u do???$ t( ?1 [3 X/ k  I5 F1 K
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, . [& H4 W. a& {7 O

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:* @# k: I& I* Y: W9 A6 y; H
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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2 @( O# x: _& i, ]* a; }. G, K7 ^好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 & t4 j0 o( _/ b( [: }

! m) p  C: L9 _* H  n( J議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
  r7 j# R& a9 z! Dhonestly, if there is jesus
$ m1 C9 |5 K7 c! \) x  D3 W: I. D( khe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
# j6 `. v# w. S3 R# [$ G8 {! z" Zwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life/ `& n) q6 H% E2 I
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it$ x) v$ U  d' p
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
) P, Z9 p: G# Dnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
$ J; I* K/ D3 I4 z3 Kbro singgeihot and rest365days
4 G9 T5 D3 C' j- E" ]2 K5 N& nhonestly, if there is jesus3 a; Q& U6 M3 C8 Q& m
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
2 P5 V& @. H& w0 k9 p. hwe can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
& Q" ?4 p" L6 s4 q& V; b: W- notherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:3 t7 M* {3 c# l* ?. w, Z, d8 j
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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% N3 h9 a1 j( a1 ghaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: