jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:0 d7 t) `' l3 b: s" q+ v+ p0 \
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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2 x" G9 q7 y0 u& I, N" h5 ~bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?+ r# i% D! _, Z7 h1 E$ z
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
1 n  W2 }4 j( f3 P0 owhy this happen? just simple........punishment- C2 ~2 d' o! s! {8 |2 g4 J2 M8 H
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things + R; U* w! O- ?. U. X
but why jesus need to do this?
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for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus+ P. f( F1 y- N- d
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉1 ~9 r: d% ?* Y9 [7 p3 P' E

% J+ l' v4 _' \- p6 Z8 E但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
; o: G% X6 h  X5 ~bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
8 o. r3 d/ q8 wcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case. G4 y' I' I  g% n' R! c5 V% Z
why this happen? just simple........punishment
1 Z4 i" x* ^9 [* ]1 I+ q; N; @7 `many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
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punsihment for what???
+ p1 O! d" f/ K, ?7 W1 |for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
, i2 s% Y" r: g! S' I1 x6 _+ Ctry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers7 o: K4 j0 }- G. |3 A
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
' H  A: T1 ?) cwhat will u do???
& G5 U: T" }  C3 g* l3 @% w# Mjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 7 ^3 S1 x3 N7 [  b: V

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:( t* J$ n  E) y6 F( m; X9 ^# O7 j1 R

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days  c! |- f- n1 C; h
honestly, if there is jesus1 y9 }" T4 _) D* L* X, B
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
4 X, h/ }; q/ |$ u! r9 Y/ fwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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' W5 u1 ~4 O- T, x. N1 _yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life% _/ @$ r/ v" L
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
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1 Q2 j9 g- y, _+ Z7 `now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
4 O# L* `" Y* \bro singgeihot and rest365days# ^6 ?: L. o6 L& w0 o# Y2 r# a3 j% Y- L
honestly, if there is jesus8 y: X6 ?. @  x$ b  M
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics2 M0 k  |1 y  k' ~
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:3 X! b0 Z: M+ X5 H/ R2 M& h
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: