Originally posted by CHECSS at 2006-1-30 12:38 PM:/ e; L* b" i8 x6 R% }  Y; |
ME

Originally posted by nashisthebestpg at 2006-1-30 13:22:
; K' \, ?1 z1 T/ Q* e姜維真係咁勁?
* N. ], l& A, i# r7 [5 t1 K8 N佢輸俾鄧艾鍾會幾次ga bo...........

Originally posted by 托迪仔T at 2006-1-30 06:01 PM:
9 D- K' S$ l& R, p* E# K羊祜

Originally posted by hung414 at 2006-1-30 21:08:6 P* y1 F& j  O$ @- r

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yes...he was the great one to unified Chinese

Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:22:2 r2 E# V1 v! u& c. Y7 q- Q( }! X$ K
司馬懿

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:24:; Z$ ]" @7 [" m4 y6 k1 o
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唔計司馬懿呢？

Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:25:
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% K% I; F  ~9 M' i& i姜維

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:25:
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2 M6 q) T! P$ }: ^# {7 awhy?

Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:28:
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8 _/ n9 u4 X6 U8 E7 [/ n6 i3 n智慧高之餘﹐又打得
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->姜維

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:32:
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( a+ o* v1 V& ^; W8 w# Y) Obut i think智慧: 諸葛亮-->司...

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:39:
( ^8 f" y. P$ _3 \5 a, C. F8 SJust I think
8 y/ ~2 m2 V% u+ C第一五分，第五一分2 z4 D2 N% j" x# \* z0 }

- ^0 [- g# l! v2 r諸葛亮：5+5+4+1=15
. U6 s* ~( N3 i' ~# F) {2 A- J司馬懿：4+4+5+3=16
6 c- l6 h/ m4 C7 u鄧艾：1+2+3+4=10
/ E1 p$ I/ v& C' v( ?2 ^0 w姜維：2+1+1+5=9
: C. y% L( m  O9 x+ H陸遜：3+3+2+2=10

Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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0 ?7 {2 W, H. }" Z; M4 B智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:* I; N4 v+ t9 z$ r) ]
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:# g% h0 G1 b& Y3 k- g
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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$ h; t  l6 g1 n9 e$ _其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
$ w0 x0 w5 e0 b; u- X1 _In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:' J! s, s# x3 y! ~7 V
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& K0 T" J1 t; j% m9 S他比孔明更偉大

Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:  ~7 S; r$ @0 Y  d
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3 t) a9 Y4 M5 t2 Q- \/ y3 G0 PAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:) H2 C9 s& @3 c- u* H
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' B% e" {9 w( S. o2 R他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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  b3 v% y& q2 k9 o! Byes, that's the point.

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 22:20:
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0 Z6 V! W1 }2 L# w陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......

Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:29:
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Many '3 countries' peoples 不得善終 too

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006/1/30 21:32:! T; z  J' ?1 g! `9 M% K2 L

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; F- W% d9 C+ t+ bbut i think智慧: 諸葛亮-->司...

Originally posted by nashisthebestpg at 2006-1-31 01:07 AM:
) X8 Q+ t/ A( i3 O& X: y( o  Q7 `聽聞真正的history上,諸葛亮的軍事能力未如三國演義般吹得咁勁.........! w. O. Z; |: b+ ^
佢勁係勁在治國能力............
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係咪如此?

Originally posted by benny0105 at 2006-1-31 01:46 AM:6 p7 \* z3 U+ T. O, D% p9 V. \
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其實又有幾多人真係睇過三國志丫...
1 m  o- S* U, A好多人只不過睇完神化既「三國演義」就信以為真

Originally posted by nashisthebestpg at 2006-1-31 01:07 AM:
1 [, \( e4 g; ]) s; j  `- e3 U' o聽聞真正的history上,諸葛亮的軍事能力未如三國演義般吹得咁勁.........( a3 l3 t$ }  c8 {" K
佢勁係勁在治國能力............
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Originally posted by nashisthebestpg at 2006-1-31 02:01 AM:  V3 K+ v, ]* f: o4 X
呢個網係講有關三國正史~
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" ]2 Y, R+ I( k% u3 H7 O1 d# dhttp://k-fung.net/han/real.htm

Originally posted by step025 at 2006-1-31 07:13:
' u, h+ @; S2 G6 @/ N; m+ M你睇演義定火鳳? 你又點知佢地打得?
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Originally posted by 155220 at 2006-1-31 12:56 PM:
6 @7 s  G8 k: U0 a# z( b% KP.S 曹魏後期頂住蜀漢姜維主要係teamw...

Originally posted by abcde1918 at 2006-1-31 12:58:
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我打機,姜維係最勁

Originally posted by 155220 at 2006-1-31 01:02 PM:
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Originally posted by abcde1918 at 2006-1-31 13:05:
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Originally posted by 奇 at 2006-1-31 02:05:
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歷史中諸葛亮的軍事能力的確沒演義中那麼屈機,但也算不俗,始終對司馬懿也( N2 p  v- \0 G. W. p, |% V/ _
沒有佔下風

Originally posted by 下......... at 2006-2-13 05:36 PM:  q8 L% c7 Z! z2 ?( b; _
姜維智力夠高, 諸葛亮又將兵法傳左比佢,最勁當然係姜維啦!