
Originally posted by CHECSS at 2006-1-30 12:38 PM: A! X1 t% V: U8 l& ^+ X' @# y
ME
Originally posted by nashisthebestpg at 2006-1-30 13:22:! J1 r" l8 t1 J
姜維真係咁勁?" R$ t6 _ c" C9 X8 W
佢輸俾鄧艾鍾會幾次ga bo...........
Originally posted by 托迪仔T at 2006-1-30 06:01 PM:9 F3 v; T8 v) O, U N+ s3 {+ l, ~1 X8 ^
羊祜![]()
Originally posted by hung414 at 2006-1-30 21:08:
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yes...he was the great one to unified Chinese
Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:22:
司馬懿
Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:24:: |! H$ A) C1 m! v( e) N4 G9 ]
唔計司馬懿呢?
Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:25:
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姜維
Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:25:! M9 k+ x H6 _6 a& X, q
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why?
Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:28:
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智慧高之餘﹐又打得
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->姜維
Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:32:; m& C4 N8 m. d1 O
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but i think智慧: 諸葛亮-->司...
Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:39:
Just I think
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諸葛亮:5+5+4+1=15$ s$ I. V3 }. ?% Q5 p
司馬懿:4+4+5+3=16
鄧艾:1+2+3+4=10
姜維:2+1+1+5=9
陸遜:3+3+2+2=10
Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...
Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:3 P# D0 T3 ]: ~& z7 i/ Y) {
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9
Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:& Q+ S# C \. I% a% x p ?/ X: L$ L1 N
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多,很難比較![]()
Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him. 姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of 諸葛亮.
Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:) C* s/ C3 S$ b: Z# c
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他比孔明更偉大
Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree. Both of them were extremely loyalty. However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation. He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.
Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年,雖然孔明也有27年(207-234),但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多,五虎已屈機

Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
yes, that's the point.![]()
Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 22:20:* f3 J7 M4 {2 Q! R! p6 Q: f
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陸遜也偉大,但不得善終......
Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:29:
Many '3 countries' peoples 不得善終 too![]()
Originally posted by 151515 at 2006/1/30 21:32: V2 [2 ]* ^6 I1 i
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but i think智慧: 諸葛亮-->司...
Originally posted by nashisthebestpg at 2006-1-31 01:07 AM:6 h9 o& z; a, G$ Z
聽聞真正的history上,諸葛亮的軍事能力未如三國演義般吹得咁勁.........
佢勁係勁在治國能力............! O* r V( z; ]! S y
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係咪如此?
Originally posted by benny0105 at 2006-1-31 01:46 AM:* n! V! y. c2 [# ~! A! Y
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其實又有幾多人真係睇過三國志丫..., C2 i; A1 a. B# g" @! K( Z
好多人只不過睇完神化既「三國演義」就信以為真
Originally posted by nashisthebestpg at 2006-1-31 01:07 AM:
聽聞真正的history上,諸葛亮的軍事能力未如三國演義般吹得咁勁.........
佢勁係勁在治國能力............
係咪如此?

Originally posted by nashisthebestpg at 2006-1-31 02:01 AM:
呢個網係講有關三國正史~1 k5 e- X, c, f" u9 ?/ p
不過我諗好多人都有睇過~
http://k-fung.net/han/real.htm
: \) e7 u' T9 k, G5 ZOriginally posted by step025 at 2006-1-31 07:13:
你睇演義定火鳳? 你又點知佢地打得?
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Originally posted by 155220 at 2006-1-31 12:56 PM:. b+ j v6 X- M* m5 V9 ]4 V
P.S 曹魏後期頂住蜀漢姜維主要係teamw...
Originally posted by abcde1918 at 2006-1-31 12:58:
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我打機,姜維係最勁
Originally posted by 155220 at 2006-1-31 01:02 PM:3 V6 h! ?7 J; P9 U
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打機鄧艾都唔錯,但正史中,我認為鄧艾勁d
Originally posted by abcde1918 at 2006-1-31 13:05:
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點解咁講& x- f$ X# N7 G3 w5 s! e% U6 \& s
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[ Last edited by abcde1918 on 2006-1-31 at 01:06 PM ]
Originally posted by 奇 at 2006-1-31 02:05:4 `& n. R6 t1 T% N2 x# S% g, R+ f- U
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歷史中諸葛亮的軍事能力的確沒演義中那麼屈機,但也算不俗,始終對司馬懿也' o* {6 P. ]4 i6 q& U9 S. Y
沒有佔下風![]()
Originally posted by 下......... at 2006-2-13 05:36 PM:+ M8 f5 R& S( l
姜維智力夠高, 諸葛亮又將兵法傳左比佢,最勁當然係姜維啦!
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