Originally posted by CHECSS at 2006-1-30 12:38 PM:
ME
Originally posted by nashisthebestpg at 2006-1-30 13:22:, S' u7 O; g o3 I1 w. C
姜維真係咁勁?3 j2 [8 b3 n( \, v6 ^
佢輸俾鄧艾鍾會幾次ga bo...........
Originally posted by 托迪仔T at 2006-1-30 06:01 PM:) S7 l C. K; U% ?
羊祜
Originally posted by hung414 at 2006-1-30 21:08:; f3 j# u/ E: g/ Q6 A- G6 r0 x) r
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yes...he was the great one to unified Chinese
Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:22:/ [9 l6 r# M. P# A( ~% g% r7 y
司馬懿
Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:24:6 H; i3 o3 w7 I2 `& N: r
唔計司馬懿呢?
Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:25:0 t" `' E% V/ w& v! v W; O: H
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姜維
Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:25:: [; L" L1 e% F Y& ?) M
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why?
Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:28:3 b) m" @5 T ~# C0 E3 D$ n# L0 j
智慧高之餘﹐又打得
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->姜維
Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:32:
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but i think智慧: 諸葛亮-->司...
Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:39:$ o0 C) m3 I* L+ L& G ^3 C" w6 G
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第一五分,第五一分* q i+ q# o/ L0 L, H3 _. n
諸葛亮:5+5+4+1=15
司馬懿:4+4+5+3=16
鄧艾:1+2+3+4=10
姜維:2+1+1+5=9; h1 b# J, y! k
陸遜:3+3+2+2=10
Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:$ ^+ N% Z& h( ]
智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...
Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:* J* W2 J9 }$ ?& B: G/ l, ^! r) Z* F
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9
Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.
Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
其實他們實力差不多,很難比較
Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:4 _0 y8 u( h# j4 H1 g
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him. 姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of 諸葛亮.
Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:8 x8 A0 E- R+ ~8 D- w- K @
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他比孔明更偉大
Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:" o9 P0 t7 w& a
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Agree. Both of them were extremely loyalty. However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation. He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.
Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:. V1 Y$ v( }8 J* w7 ?
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他支撐了蜀國三十年,雖然孔明也有27年(207-234),但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多,五虎已屈機
Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.
Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 22:20:) T7 U6 G+ P; E
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陸遜也偉大,但不得善終......
Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:29:5 |3 d; l! z: h
Many '3 countries' peoples 不得善終 too
Originally posted by 151515 at 2006/1/30 21:32:" \* [& s% a/ w7 B c8 v
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but i think智慧: 諸葛亮-->司...
Originally posted by nashisthebestpg at 2006-1-31 01:07 AM:
聽聞真正的history上,諸葛亮的軍事能力未如三國演義般吹得咁勁.........
佢勁係勁在治國能力............
係咪如此?
Originally posted by benny0105 at 2006-1-31 01:46 AM:4 ]$ N. n5 @7 L' |; K0 ~. g( w
其實又有幾多人真係睇過三國志丫...
好多人只不過睇完神化既「三國演義」就信以為真
Originally posted by nashisthebestpg at 2006-1-31 01:07 AM:
聽聞真正的history上,諸葛亮的軍事能力未如三國演義般吹得咁勁......... y) Z) { [- B% c4 w& q4 p
佢勁係勁在治國能力............
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係咪如此?
Originally posted by nashisthebestpg at 2006-1-31 02:01 AM:) Q5 v7 }2 S2 w; n$ a8 u* t
呢個網係講有關三國正史~
不過我諗好多人都有睇過~; e! V& z. r8 m. n' b
http://k-fung.net/han/real.htm
Originally posted by step025 at 2006-1-31 07:13:* ?" k; K8 ^& l8 h* J2 w( l
你睇演義定火鳳? 你又點知佢地打得?: f2 J, D0 R: j6 z
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Originally posted by 155220 at 2006-1-31 12:56 PM:
P.S 曹魏後期頂住蜀漢姜維主要係teamw...
Originally posted by abcde1918 at 2006-1-31 12:58:0 L/ W8 I' M5 B* W2 T8 i5 }9 q
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我打機,姜維係最勁
Originally posted by 155220 at 2006-1-31 01:02 PM:# D6 C& K, z% R z* J e, C) m
打機鄧艾都唔錯,但正史中,我認為鄧艾勁d
Originally posted by abcde1918 at 2006-1-31 13:05:$ g4 M" l# y: H1 Z" h2 o
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[ Last edited by abcde1918 on 2006-1-31 at 01:06 PM ]
Originally posted by 奇 at 2006-1-31 02:05:
歷史中諸葛亮的軍事能力的確沒演義中那麼屈機,但也算不俗,始終對司馬懿也1 T- B# \4 \" `4 M2 Z1 R
沒有佔下風
Originally posted by 下......... at 2006-2-13 05:36 PM:. R- x9 B$ V+ g6 D! x
姜維智力夠高, 諸葛亮又將兵法傳左比佢,最勁當然係姜維啦!
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