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作者: 155220    時間: 2006-1-31 10:22 AM     標題: Kobe Bryant 的成與敗

Kobe Bryant 的成與敗

近排好多人討論 Kobe 一場拿下81分的神奇表現。
無可否認,Kobe 的確得分能力好強,他是球星,但他還不是偉大的球員。
一個偉大的球員是respectable 的,但我不能再KOBE身上找到。
有看KOBE比賽你就會發覺,他好agressive。
隊友傳波,他走位想去拿球跳射,但剛剛隊友傳左去第二邊,隊友都未射,他立即顯得好不耐煩,好像個波不傳給他就是錯的。如果我係他隊友,我都不會RESPECT他。連一個leader 都做不到,學 meh 同MJ 比,根本就無得比。

我討厭的是KB的attitude, I never suspect his scoring ability.
In the past, Allen Iverson is regarded as a selfish player, but now, no one is going to say that again as in every game, he makes around 7-8 assists. He plays as a team, not by himself.

It's still far for Kobe to become a great player in NBA.
作者: nashisthebestpg    時間: 2006-1-31 10:50 AM

又黎搵mj 同佢比.........

[ Last edited by nashisthebestpg on 2006-1-31 at 10:51 AM ]
作者: genxa    時間: 2006-1-31 10:55 AM

I strongly agree to ur point...
ive always hated Kobe for his attitude... i admit he is a great player... with great scoring ability and crowd pleasing skills....but really lacks team spirit...

back when MJ played... his team mates passed him the ball knowing he could find a way to the basket.. or find an opportunity to dish to team mates... everyone RESPECTED MJ...

lets use an example... MJ has many video clips of Top10 plays... Kobe has many video clips of Top10 plays too.... BUT.... MJ also has a video clip of Top10 ASSISTS... does Kobe? will he ever have one? i dun think so...
i dun think his atitude of "im the star player... gimme the ball or we will lose" will ever wear off... meaning he will never even come close to being compared to MJ...
if anything... i reckon DWade has a better chance of becoming the nxt MJ...
and as much as i hate this guy... even maybe Lebron...
作者: 155220    時間: 2006-1-31 11:17 AM

Originally posted by nashisthebestpg at 2006-1-31 10:50:
又黎搵mj 同佢比.........

[ Last edited by nashisthebestpg on 2006-1-31 at 10:51 AM ]
any problem?
作者: nashisthebestpg    時間: 2006-1-31 11:30 AM

Originally posted by genxa at 2006-1-31 10:55 AM:
lets use an example... MJ has many video clips of Top10 plays... Kobe has many video clips of Top10 plays too.... BUT.... MJ also has a video clip of Top10 ASSISTS... does Kobe? will he ever have one? i dun think so...
呢個point.........唔係掛..........
jordan打十幾年..........有a video clip of Top10 ASSISTS...........有幾出奇啊.........
kobe無係因為無人特登整出黎啫..........如果你有睇過佢d mix......都有好多球靚assist.......
再說, assist一定要靚? 一個普通的assist,入到波就得啦,assist入top 10又何何?
要講的話用助攻數字比較同有說服力..........

呢個example話佢無team spirit..........

[ Last edited by nashisthebestpg on 2006-1-31 at 11:37 AM ]
作者: nashisthebestpg    時間: 2006-1-31 11:35 AM

Originally posted by 155220 at 2006-1-31 11:17 AM:


any problem?
因為..............人比人,比死人..........
mj 巳經退左休,係佢ge生涯成就同個人能力可算是perfect......
況且呢個話題講得太多.........搵一個仲未到顛峰的人同mj比......未免有點悶同無討論空間.........
仲有,kobe無話過要同mj比or 要做什麼接班人........甚至對呢個問題有點反感......
所以15仔你話---[學 meh 同MJ 比,根本就無得比。] .....有點問題.......

[ Last edited by nashisthebestpg on 2006-1-31 at 11:40 AM ]
作者: 艾力克    時間: 2006-1-31 11:44 AM

Originally posted by nashisthebestpg at 2006-1-31 11:30 AM:

呢個point.........唔係掛............
而且交倒一個靚o既助攻, 隊友入唔倒都冇用 = ="
到時咪又係入唔倒 你講o既 "top 10 assist"

兩隊波球員o既配合都唔同
湖人o既3角同公牛時比都有分別啦~
作者: Chenjinnan    時間: 2006-1-31 05:37 PM

較年輕既各位可能唔知... 係 80s 尾 90s 初,有 NBA 既炒咭熱 (Skybox,Fleer,Flair),以 93 年最為巔峰。當時 MJ 既咭試過炒上 US$4500,同時既 Barkley 有 US$900,Olajuwon 有 US$450,Stockton 都有 US$250。好明顯,炒咭熱都係因 MJ 而起,仲有好可多 NBA 相關既產品 (Nike,衫褲鞋襪... ) 都一時興起。你話 Kobe 而家有 d 乜?
作者: cwc_tkd    時間: 2006-1-31 06:52 PM

kobe 係 kobe
mj 係 mj.
"學 meh 同MJ 比"呢句講到好似係kobe特登同mj比.
講真, 直以來都係大家 (包括我)將佢地2個比,
但係我覺得要記住, 佢地2個係唔同ge人,
kobe做到ge mj 未必做到,
mj做到ge kobe亦未必做唔到~
所以唔好再話kobe刻意學佢了,
咁對2位偉大球員都唔公平..
作者: 151515    時間: 2006-1-31 06:55 PM

有人話佢教壞細路wo
作者: CHECSS    時間: 2006-1-31 07:03 PM

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006/1/31 18:55:
有人話佢教壞細路wo
有人話 you are beautiful wor ???????? do you trust they ?????????
作者: abcde1918    時間: 2006-1-31 07:08 PM

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-31 06:55 PM:
有人話佢教壞細路wo
邊個
作者: CHECSS    時間: 2006-1-31 07:13 PM

Originally posted by abcde1918 at 2006/1/31 19:08:

邊個
herself
作者: bigfish    時間: 2006-1-31 07:28 PM

對於呢兩個人o既討論, 好多人都已經感到厭倦了
作者: 甘國武    時間: 2006-1-31 10:00 PM

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-31 06:55 PM:
有人話佢教壞細路wo
條跛佬妒忌嘛~
作者: 155220    時間: 2006-1-31 10:01 PM

Originally posted by abcde1918 at 2006-1-31 19:08:

邊個
kobe
作者: nashisthebestpg    時間: 2006-1-31 11:02 PM

Originally posted by abcde1918 at 2006-1-31 07:08 PM:

邊個
雲斯.卡達~
連教細佬打波都關kobe事.......真係吹漲.......
作者: nashisthebestpg    時間: 2006-1-31 11:05 PM

Originally posted by Chenjinnan at 2006-1-31 05:37 PM:
較年輕既各位可能唔知... 係 80s 尾 9...
咁d卡咪成過萬蚊港元???
d人痴線?????

不過話時話.你說[你話 Kobe 而家有 d 乜?]........即係想點?
關於kobe的打波的能力ma?
作者: Chenjinnan    時間: 2006-2-1 12:17 AM

唔係,而係除左打波之外,一 D 正面既影響力都冇...
作者: nashisthebestpg    時間: 2006-2-1 12:55 AM

Originally posted by Chenjinnan at 2006-2-1 12:17 AM:
唔係,而係除左打波之外,一 D 正面既影響力都冇...
就係之前單"案"開始之後......正面ge影響力就無晒lu...........
不過佢今季巳經開始努力做好番個形象~:cool:
作者: brightman    時間: 2006-2-1 03:40 AM

我都同意以上幾位人兄所講,kobe 係 kobe, 佐敦係佐敦, 加上kobe只係得廿幾歲, 硬要將他們比較有點不公平.

有d批評話kobe獨食, 但係睇番湖人既陣容,除左kobe, 可以依靠既得分球員有幾多? 就算係奧當都唔係一個穩定既球員. 我睇過幾場湖人既比賽, 有時kobe比兩人夾擊下傳比無人mark既隊友佢都可以射唔入. 係咁既情況底下亦都難怪kobe獨食點, 起碼佢自己上籃機會仲大. 如果無kobe既湖人會點? 講番佢羅81分個場, 第二節無kobe既時候隊波打到唔知似乜.攻又攻唔到,守又好似不設防..搞到最大差距去到16分,如果唔係kobe第三同第四節既神勇表現場比賽一早輸左.

我覺得唔好抱住同佐敦比較既角度去睇kobe會好d. 睇番而家nba, 打波打得最有娛樂性係佢. 佢可以做到一d其他球員做唔做既野,甚至可以憑一己之力扭轉成敗. 佢既表現可以令到LA主場球迷都對住佢大喊MVP..咁樣佢都可以稱得上為偉大球員. 況且佢仲後生, 將來仲有進步空間.
作者: Chenjinnan    時間: 2006-2-1 11:42 AM

一失足成千古恨~
作者: iMacc    時間: 2006-2-1 12:21 PM

Originally posted by nashisthebestpg at 2006-1-31 11:35 AM:
因為..............人比人,比死人..........
mj 巳經退左休,係佢ge生涯成就同個人能力可算是perfect......
況且呢個話題講得太多.........搵一個仲未到顛峰的人同mj比......未免有點悶同無討論空間.........
仲有,kobe無話過要同mj比or 要做什麼接班人........甚至對呢個問題有點反感......
所以15仔你話---[學 meh 同MJ 比,根本就無得比。] .....有點問題.......
我好同意你嗰句人比人比死人...但係無比較又點知邊個好呢~?
作者: nashisthebestpg    時間: 2006-2-1 12:27 PM

Originally posted by iMacc at 2006-2-1 12:21 PM:

我好同意你嗰句人比人比死人...但係無比較又點知邊個好呢~?
暫時黎講,比黎都晒氣ma~




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