Originally posted by mhkk at 2007-9-13 13:07:! Q& @, |7 N$ H) N2 O/ P
宋朝王帝個個都掛住玩9 B' k- H1 H: W$ G) B
邊會理政事
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-13 03:40 PM:& j( C, O# @! R) q- U5 R
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唔係嫁,宋中期有幾個皇帝都勤政,如宋神宗,只可惜皇帝唔易做。
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-13 15:40:! B* W9 Y2 b- i, V. x) x H% E0 ?
唔係嫁,宋中期有幾個皇帝都勤政,如宋神宗,只可惜皇帝唔易做。
Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-13 18:45:
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一個屎皇帝,理唔理政事都一樣
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-13 07:12 PM: \, J" ~; f# t7 v
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你估宋朝皇帝真係咁差咩?我覺得神宗,英宗和哲宗也不是昏君,只可惜局限於黨爭之中,未能大長拳腳。
Originally posted by 我愛章小慧 at 2007-9-13 19:23:2 m/ g4 u! g% e- S3 o- X
佢地無大改大革之才 , 所以受環境所限 ...
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-13 19:12:
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你估宋朝皇帝真係咁差咩?我覺得神宗,英宗和哲宗也不是昏君,只可惜局限於黨爭之中,未能大長拳腳。
Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-13 07:31 PM:- k, L b6 ]1 d6 u
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非常同意
北魏孝...
Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-13 19:31:/ [0 t, a8 U# _/ @9 K: P/ N8 _: i
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非常同意# n7 T0 t0 A7 v9 D: O
北魏孝...
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-14 05:28 PM:, F" h0 U4 R' O
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孝文帝成功?我覺得有爭議性,因為...
Originally posted by 我愛章小慧 at 2007-9-14 17:39:7 c; R) H$ Z# S" B9 R+ f p' B* _
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孝文帝改革也可以說成對民族的出賣
原本是 他+鮮卑族 是統治層 , 漢人 是被統治層# F/ r: i5 e3 G
改革就 他 是統治層 , 鮮卑族+漢人 是被統治層
Originally posted by 我愛章小慧 at 2007-9-13 19:41:$ J: ^+ z9 d2 x' W0 b$ o" G
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這又不能這麼說 , 王安石新政亦有其問題
而 哲宗 重新政 , 只是沒排解好黨爭
所以到其死後 , 便引發出大問題~~
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-14 17:28:
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孝文帝成功?我覺得有爭議性,因為...
Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-14 09:43 PM:
做大事及用人要三思而後行,這些皇帝做不到,是他們的問題; O4 h& s7 C3 |
更何況,決定權在皇帝手中,王安石只是提出意見,不能全說是他的錯
Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-14 21:47:6 q* D. r, w5 B9 x, l) V# [
我指的成功是他有自已的主見,不受人影響
Originally posted by 我愛章小慧 at 2007-9-14 22:07:% o* N" a! x2 z |) r7 ]! r
那你口中的好皇帝 , 只有1%吧~~
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-14 22:23:
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真的能不受人影響嗎???孝文帝漢化都受到別人的影響,更何況宋代時黨爭激烈...你估皇帝真的是萬能人麼?
Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-14 23:30:
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其實我是指他不受主流意見所影響
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-15 06:36:
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咁即係要一意孤行,唔理班舊黨官員???無左佢地既幫助,朝政好難唔亂...
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