Originally posted by mhkk at 2007-9-13 13:07:
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邊會理政事
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-13 03:40 PM:9 h% m+ c, i/ y4 F5 N
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唔係嫁,宋中期有幾個皇帝都勤政,如宋神宗,只可惜皇帝唔易做。
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-13 15:40:* A' }+ K# H' X4 ?6 O P
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唔係嫁,宋中期有幾個皇帝都勤政,如宋神宗,只可惜皇帝唔易做。
Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-13 18:45:
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一個屎皇帝,理唔理政事都一樣
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-13 07:12 PM:8 h4 B- ^6 N) Z. F4 s9 ~% d
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你估宋朝皇帝真係咁差咩?我覺得神宗,英宗和哲宗也不是昏君,只可惜局限於黨爭之中,未能大長拳腳。
Originally posted by 我愛章小慧 at 2007-9-13 19:23:
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佢地無大改大革之才 , 所以受環境所限 ...
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-13 19:12:
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你估宋朝皇帝真係咁差咩?我覺得神宗,英宗和哲宗也不是昏君,只可惜局限於黨爭之中,未能大長拳腳。
Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-13 07:31 PM:
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非常同意
北魏孝...
Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-13 19:31:3 ]( F2 F. T. ^# ]8 w0 \( T
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非常同意
北魏孝...
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-14 05:28 PM:5 E; Q3 {1 h' c6 E s
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孝文帝成功?我覺得有爭議性,因為...
Originally posted by 我愛章小慧 at 2007-9-14 17:39:; D9 {; U$ ]( W$ ]1 {
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孝文帝改革也可以說成對民族的出賣
原本是 他+鮮卑族 是統治層 , 漢人 是被統治層
改革就 他 是統治層 , 鮮卑族+漢人 是被統治層
Originally posted by 我愛章小慧 at 2007-9-13 19:41: S. ?9 P7 q' J/ j4 U5 o: M
這又不能這麼說 , 王安石新政亦有其問題
而 哲宗 重新政 , 只是沒排解好黨爭
所以到其死後 , 便引發出大問題~~
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-14 17:28:
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孝文帝成功?我覺得有爭議性,因為...
Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-14 09:43 PM:' {& j0 K9 y9 |4 z: q0 x
做大事及用人要三思而後行,這些皇帝做不到,是他們的問題
更何況,決定權在皇帝手中,王安石只是提出意見,不能全說是他的錯
Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-14 21:47:6 w" W* }# J% n* }7 Y, }3 K( V
我指的成功是他有自已的主見,不受人影響![]()
Originally posted by 我愛章小慧 at 2007-9-14 22:07:
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那你口中的好皇帝 , 只有1%吧~~![]()
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-14 22:23:; o9 o' k1 @- e5 a* C
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真的能不受人影響嗎???孝文帝漢化都受到別人的影響,更何況宋代時黨爭激烈...你估皇帝真的是萬能人麼?
Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-14 23:30:
其實我是指他不受主流意見所影響
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-15 06:36:* L) I( W0 ~: [: S
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咁即係要一意孤行,唔理班舊黨官員???無左佢地既幫助,朝政好難唔亂...
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