
Originally posted by mhkk at 2007-9-13 13:07:
宋朝王帝個個都掛住玩- {0 `+ u [8 s a
邊會理政事
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-13 03:40 PM:! a' U5 U+ C) A2 U# x0 g
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唔係嫁,宋中期有幾個皇帝都勤政,如宋神宗,只可惜皇帝唔易做。
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-13 15:40:# Z) k8 q" `! N' v4 t# d- D
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唔係嫁,宋中期有幾個皇帝都勤政,如宋神宗,只可惜皇帝唔易做。
Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-13 18:45:- l& a. V9 w- y
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一個屎皇帝,理唔理政事都一樣
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-13 07:12 PM:7 X/ D" y" U0 u" W
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你估宋朝皇帝真係咁差咩?我覺得神宗,英宗和哲宗也不是昏君,只可惜局限於黨爭之中,未能大長拳腳。
Originally posted by 我愛章小慧 at 2007-9-13 19:23:9 k$ Q0 y1 t8 c1 ~0 p
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佢地無大改大革之才 , 所以受環境所限 ...
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-13 19:12:
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你估宋朝皇帝真係咁差咩?我覺得神宗,英宗和哲宗也不是昏君,只可惜局限於黨爭之中,未能大長拳腳。
Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-13 07:31 PM:* t% r4 ^, D" z9 x$ V! G
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非常同意
北魏孝...
Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-13 19:31:" u: D* ^$ E/ z; Z5 {
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非常同意
北魏孝...
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-14 05:28 PM:
孝文帝成功?我覺得有爭議性,因為...
Originally posted by 我愛章小慧 at 2007-9-14 17:39:2 e$ h9 _; k* `% x) S
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孝文帝改革也可以說成對民族的出賣- C7 l+ {) D7 e: h/ R1 |
原本是 他+鮮卑族 是統治層 , 漢人 是被統治層
改革就 他 是統治層 , 鮮卑族+漢人 是被統治層
Originally posted by 我愛章小慧 at 2007-9-13 19:41:4 j; r. [. X) K+ C" {& K* [
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這又不能這麼說 , 王安石新政亦有其問題
而 哲宗 重新政 , 只是沒排解好黨爭
所以到其死後 , 便引發出大問題~~
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-14 17:28:# d. U- I" \1 K5 j J
孝文帝成功?我覺得有爭議性,因為...
Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-14 09:43 PM:
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做大事及用人要三思而後行,這些皇帝做不到,是他們的問題: \ Q6 R5 j5 l9 X
更何況,決定權在皇帝手中,王安石只是提出意見,不能全說是他的錯
Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-14 21:47:/ M9 ~7 f5 b" {
我指的成功是他有自已的主見,不受人影響![]()
Originally posted by 我愛章小慧 at 2007-9-14 22:07:
那你口中的好皇帝 , 只有1%吧~~![]()
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-14 22:23:8 D% W( F, e5 s& y: O% C% O
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真的能不受人影響嗎???孝文帝漢化都受到別人的影響,更何況宋代時黨爭激烈...你估皇帝真的是萬能人麼?
Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-14 23:30:. w1 ` O& t/ ?8 U
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其實我是指他不受主流意見所影響
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-15 06:36:4 c. z" m% i; n4 B9 f# Z! m" r
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咁即係要一意孤行,唔理班舊黨官員???無左佢地既幫助,朝政好難唔亂...
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