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作者: dawander3r 時間: 2009-1-12 01:06 PM 標題: 英超曼聯vs車路士告知了一件事

英超曼聯3比0大敗車路士告知了一件事
車路士=垃圾

請唔好誤會，我其實係車仔fans，不過係摩帥在位之時，因早知車仔有此結果
油王正如香港D老細一樣，請完人番嚟又要壓倒人地專業意見，得閒插隻手埋嚟搞亂檔
第一個要換就係要換佢，更何況佢都無水咯，無Q用
大菲根本就唔識調兵遣將
淨係等球員有好發揮就死得啦
你識點佢地，佢地咪識發揮囉
不過根本就係之前收購了唔啱隊波嘅人番來，搞亂了，阻礙發揮，唔係明氣大就得嘅，最緊要係唔好因喜好而用人
波可以輸，不過作為兩隊大球會嘅對決，3比0嘅結果係唔可以接受。
就等同俾個外行人楂旗一樣
隊波嘅成績係靠球員打番來，同個教練無關，今季都係主要靠Anelka入波喳嘛，佢唔入，隊波同大菲就無辦法，以前摩帥點都會諗D新野睇下work唔work
以前前面唔入，就會有中場幫拖入番，宜家無咗支歌仔唱
宜家最緊要搵個林伯嘅代替品，輔助佢又好sub佢都好。
進攻板斧太寡喇
好過又買前鋒，造就唔到攻勢一樣無用，根本唔關前鋒事
大佬，唔好成日諗住單天保至尊，你仲有成對波腳喺度架

[ 本帖最後由 brightlee 於 2009-1-12 03:22 PM 編輯 ]

作者: terry797 時間: 2009-1-12 06:59 PM

摩連奴同佢根本冇得比..
加上今車曼聯鋒線大解放..個個上晒火..除左C朗
相反..車仔..我睇晒全場..杜奧巴一球中龍既攻門都冇..
安歷卡更加唔洗講...林柏特波歷克冇晒建樹..
車仔再唔買番一隻翼既話..攻門唻唻去去都係咁...
冠軍?唔洗發夢...

PS.英超冇一隊我鐘意...曼聯更係我最憎既球隊..
不過今場發揮完全冇得比..曼聯一面倒咁攻

作者: cfccfcc 時間: 2009-1-12 08:23 PM

Scolari
根本唔係乜野一個大人物
係, 贏過世界杯,但係巴西d人咁勁, 贏絕對唔出奇
帶Portugal贏英國入四強, 悶足120分鐘.............
季軍戰仲輸埋比germany
無乜突破

Fair enough to say
可以比埋呢季佢
我覺得唔再買人的話
邊個教分別唔大

其實今年車仔由4-3-3轉做4-4-1-1
係要時間適應

作為一隊贏開的波,絕對無咁既耐性

作者: easonwing 時間: 2009-1-12 09:02 PM

跟本車仔就唔夠有特破能力既翼鋒,下下都係條中場猜入去,唔夠變化,比人睇穿晒
搵deco同 joe高打翼鋒,完全做唔到野,反而保辛華同 a 高仲打得上過佢地兩個...
車仔一日唔買翼鋒....成績都好難好
開咧個時因為波力克同deco都傷,出左卡龍同馬路達.反而成績仲好! 因為佢地兩個都有特破能力
個人應為, deco,林百,同波力克,呢3個中場太慢了...

作者: 自由神 時間: 2009-1-12 09:47 PM

作為車迷....
自從軍刀無奈既來投
到摩師既離開
上任既竟然係無牌既格蘭
作為支持者真係心中有數

與其怪領隊/球員
倒不如問下點解隊波會出現一D一隊真正勁旅唔應該出現既問題
答案就係過度發展
成功唔係一朝一夕
而車路士正正係一朝一夕咁由一隊一線尾、二線頭既球隊，成功變成歐洲一大勁旅
無完善青訓基礎
無穩固既球迷群
無良好既訓練系統
無全面既球探團

曼聯、皇馬、拜仁無錯...我係唔中意
但不得不承認人地根基好，一季兩季成績唔好
好快就可以重上正軌

而車...起番身既能力就相對上較慢
而且缺系統性

作者: feuosma 時間: 2009-1-13 12:08 AM

原帖由 自由神 於 2009-1-12 09:47 PM 發表
作為車迷....
自從軍刀無奈既來投
到摩師既離開
上任既竟然係無牌既格蘭
作為支持者真係心中有數

與其怪領隊/球員
倒不如問下點解隊波會出現一D一隊真正勁旅唔應該出現既問題
答案就係過度發展
成功唔係一朝一夕
而 ...

英超曼聯3比0大敗車路士告知了一件事

利記=垃圾

(但不得不承認人地根基好，一季兩季成績唔好
好快就可以重上正軌....)

賢弟你都仲好....係車迷....我呢個十幾廿年既利迷....諗住今年終於等到啦......點知......

陰公.......唔通我仲要等多廿年????

作者: dawander3r 時間: 2009-1-13 12:15 AM

thank you everybody
i have the same opinions as u guys
first, i always think Scolari really sucks, i just don't understand why there r so many people have bigger names than their actual skills, u can easily see if they got skills or not from just a few matches, a good coach has quite some strategy on hand and they are capable of making tactics right away for the time being when the team is not doing well enough, for useless coaches like this guy, he has no tricks at all
second, i believe they really need a left wing, Malouda is fair to do the job, but they still need alternative wings
the previous left wingers Robben & Duff really saved the team for so many times when the strikers in the front couldn't score
i felt so disappointed when they sold Duff away, he was the 4 key players (Lampard, Duff, Terry, Cudicini) made Chelsea a good team before Abrahimovich acquired the team, he was definitely a solid sub for Robben
also, the mids in the center r slow, that's no doubt, at least Lampard can still do the job well by running more as we can see in the previous years, Ballack was really a bad trade, he doesn't fit to the team, i also don't think he fits to the British style, in addition, the team had tons of good DM back then
finally, in respond of 自由神, the reason for their failure was totally because of the management, u never see owners intercept managers' decisions in great clubs, Chelsea started to fail since then, especially it became obvious after Schevchenko's arrival
Mourinho got skill because he always prove that by never using star players and still able to win the cups, that's his theory
all the Chelsea players weren't star players before they became famous under Mourinho's coaching
now, the result is obvious when Mourinho is away while the team remains the same, the team's performance is weak when u c it as a whole, anyways, they are weak even if u judge by individual's performance
they use manager instead of coach start to make me feel it's accurate to use such term, look at Ferguson, the success of Man Utd. partially comes from his managing skill
he always knows who to buy, he always buys the right players, and he's also good at developing young talents
he also knows how to adjust to various situations
although i don't really like him, his success is definitely obvious
anyways, i think the main problem of the team is definitely located in the mid field regardless what exactly the problem is
it must be there
like, if u can't set up plays, its definitely reducing the scoring opportunities for the strikers up front, while you are causing no threat to the opponent, u will start under massive attacks and which makes sense leading to a high possibility of being scored no matter how good the defenders are, as a conclusion, the midfield line is the spirit of the team, u can tell they are not performing well when u c the team plays bad without spirit

作者: dawander3r 時間: 2009-1-13 12:26 AM

原帖由 feuosma 於 2009-1-13 12:08 AM 發表

英超曼聯3比0大敗車路士告知了一件事

利記=垃圾

(但不得不承認人地根基好，一季兩季成績唔好
好快就可以重上正軌....)

賢弟你都仲好....係車迷....我呢個十幾廿年既利迷....諗住今年終於等到啦......點知......:y ...

i think their main problem is always that they don't know how to buy people
look at the team now, they start playing well by acquiring some right choices such as Torres, but then when u look at the team as a whole, some of the starting lineups do not seem to match up, n their bench depth is weak
if they can get 2-3 more good players, i m sure they will have a better record
anyways, there's also another common error i believe, once they have some star players performing well, their style will start relying on these players only, so when these key players' condition is bad, they will not know how to react
they r very lazy and short-sighted, they should always practice more attacking styles for various situations, also they need contingency plans because players' conditions are always up and down like roller coaster, i guess they never learn about that even at the year of 2009 already
anyways, i ain't Chelsea's fans anymore
my heart goes to Barcelona now, lol
actually, Man Utd really plays good this season too
they have quite some good team chemistry for all the players, everyone supports each other
rather than Barcelona relies on Messi's goals
so this season, i really admire Man U & Barcelona
i just don't understand y they don't go acquire the opposite wing from each other
Messi + C7 = Conquering the world
each one draws up 3 players to defend, half of the team is gone by just guarding these 2 players, and they locate at both sides, so it just makes ya defending players die running

作者: 自由神 時間: 2009-1-13 12:41 AM

原帖由 feuosma 於 2009-1-13 12:08 AM 發表
英超曼聯3比0大敗車路士告知了一件事

利記=垃圾

(但不得不承認人地根基好，一季兩季成績唔好
好快就可以重上正軌....)

賢弟你都仲好....係車迷....我呢個十幾廿年既利迷....諗住今年終於等到啦......點知......:y ...

好耐無見啦衰鬼

利記今年有機會既
只要皇子唔多傷病...

始終利記無一穩定有把握既入球球員
R.Keane同Kuyt呢兩個就真係死得....= =

作者: feuosma 時間: 2009-1-13 12:44 AM

原帖由 dawander3r 於 2009-1-13 12:26 AM 發表

i think their main problem is always that they don't know how to buy people
look at the team now, they start playing well by acquiring some right choices such as Torres, but then when u look at the ...

說得好.....唔訓都要回一回....

冇錯...就係短視....不過呢個唔可以怪曬賓帥....

最深層既問題係.....費sir帶左廿幾年.....佢會知道隊波晌聯賽落後緊時應該要點做...同可以點做.....

領先緊時應該要點做...同可以點做.....

唔似呢家既外來領隊....wwwwww真係好似旅遊領隊帶團咁....呢個景點帶三幾年....果個景點又帶三兩年....帶得幾年....差既當然無得撈...好既就去第二度撈....姐係一熟習左果環境就走人....

咁梗係唔夠費sir玩啦.....雲格就係另一個最好既例子....(所以得佢先頂得住費sir....)

摩老唔係唔勁.....但雲格手上可用既同佢差幾遠???而面對既係同一樣既敵人.....

所以應該話係近年既即食領隊文化先係最深層原因.....

而要消除即食領隊文化對一隊波既傷害(例子近年大家比我更清楚...無須於此一一列出啦...)...就只有
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.....買曬勁人番黎....

同費sir呢類教一隊波幾十年既神枱人.....

[ 本帖最後由 feuosma 於 2009-1-13 12:47 AM 編輯 ]

作者: 自由神 時間: 2009-1-13 12:53 AM

原帖由 dawander3r 於 2009-1-13 12:15 AM 發表
thank you everybody
i have the same opinions as u guys
first, i always think Scolari really sucks, i just don't understand why there r so many people have bigger names than their actual skills, u can ...

You're right...
The main problem is the management problem.
In last year of Mourinho still in CHE, he has no authority on buying,selling players and even the starting of the team. Which lead his bad starting of that season.
As you can see from last nite match, Drogba and Anekla are not in a team...
They just fight for themselves....
CHE need a big change...a fundamental change
If not...they just keep the state like these two years...

作者: kakeidevil 時間: 2009-1-13 01:12 AM

油王點會咁易比大菲走丫...
今時今日呀油王既身家大縮水,又炒球探,又冇花紅...
連增兵既錢都唔肯攞出黎!!
你估仲會唔會比一大舊毀約金去送大菲走?
睇黎大菲都有排挨喇

作者: amigofans 時間: 2009-1-13 11:09 AM

原帖由 cfccfcc 於 2009-1-12 08:23 PM 發表
Scolari
根本唔係乜野一個大人物
係, 贏過世界杯,但係巴西d人咁勁, 贏絕對唔出奇
帶Portugal贏英國入四強, 悶足120分鐘.............
季軍戰仲輸埋比germany
無乜突破

Fair enough to say
可以比埋呢季佢
我覺得唔 ...

如果係球壇之上, 大菲史高拉利都唔算係大人物既, 真係唔知咩人先算....

車迷中晒摩連奴毒, 你地既偶像, 除左浮誇吸引傳媒既功力外, 執教成績絕對比唔上大菲...

史高拉利帶金美奧同彭美拉斯都攞過巴西聯賽同南美自由杯, 最犀利當然係世界杯2002....

相信就連球圈內人既都會同意, 巴西國家隊領隊, 係世上最難當既領隊之一,
無錯巴西比人既印象係足球強國, 但實在由74到08, 不知換過二十個領隊以上, 但何解得大菲同彭利拿贏過世杯?
勁人多贏絕對唔出奇既話, 科高, 盧森保高之流就唔洗上無耐就炒, 就連而家鄧加都排緊隊....

唔鐘意大菲一件事, 但佢絕對係頂級頂人馬....

最奇係幾個月前幾個月後係兩個世界, 其實而家只係落後榜首兩三分, 已經被人媽到飛起...
或者而家個世界係咁, 費格遜同雲加都好彩, 如果早10幾廿年前似而家咁, 佢地一早被人炒左.....

作者: kakeidevil 時間: 2009-1-13 11:25 AM

喺第二度睇度,幾有道理.....

終於明白咩野係filter-052fans講既"換個人好似換粒羅c"

只要佢遇到D同級球隊嘅後防,前線就會現形,成隊波,都好令人唔放心,成隊波D外援嘅心理質素都好差,前鋒線,安歷卡已經唔係當打,更唔係穩定射手,卡奴只有速度,射術同個人能力好有限,杜奧巴係最勁一個,可惜長期受傷,復出踢黎踢去都去唔番最fit,三個前鋒都唔掂!中場最海鮮我覺得係迪高,佢一失準D傳波真係完全唔到,身材又單薄,成日傳D醫院波回後,今季已經幾鑊,波歷克還好,不過都已經係黃昏球員,本土嘅林伯最令人放心,林伯踢球會真係出神入化,祖高爾可以話係全隊腳法同速度都有嘅一個,.可惜又唔係長期正選,我真係好唔明車仔班高層點解會放走胡禮菲獵斯,近期仲走埋布歷治,a高連客串下左中都冇埋,只得埃辛一個防中,要顧攻又要守,林伯好多時都要幫拖,馬盧達絕對係個玩一辨嘅球員,底線出波,你叫佢打D小組入中路即係玩佢,後防泰利防守一流,但係就往往俾班中場害死,甩甩漏漏,俾D頂級前鋒一偷到個波,泰利又要硬食,跟住超技術咪紅囉,幾鑊啦!卡華奴呢類捉路型防守,已經冇速度,呢豕季跌watt趺得好勁,兩邊閘速度係有,但往往要幫班老邁中場執漏,又要助攻,都幾吃力!
但有時冇辦法,D球員點接捧,又唔係大菲去搞,當有一日波歷克,迪高,甚至林伯再老D,再買又要夾過,真係又要三五七年!
相反死敵曼聯真係底佢發達,因為足球球場上領隊始終係最能感受球賽,球員,嘅唯一一人,爵爺呢個老薑淨係一樣,球員接班已經好厲害,睇番當C朗未熟,同朗尼又剛剛黎,卡域克,扑智星都未有料嘅時候,傑斯同史高斯可以都可以頂得住,互相頂上,而家呢兩位老將直頭可以安安樂樂睇下波,久唔久出黎玩下,前鋒線個個當打,有速度有技術有把握力,連個後備泰維斯都咁勁,中場線個人能力唔係世界頂級,但中場唔係踢一個架,佢地幾個嘅team work加埋就世界頂級,夾到好熟,最重要係D工作好清晰,後防同中場一樣,心靈相通.D補位一流!有季前鋒線冇人用,佢竟然諗借拿臣!
但睇番車仔就冇呢樣野,ok,就算而家俾哂大菲話事,都唔可能一時之間變到超強,要隊波夾真係冇二三個球季都唔得!
你睇番國米,後防班人夾左幾耐,中場分工清晰,所以伊巴唔慌冇入波,換轉杜奧巴去曼聯,國米,入波一定唔少過佢同朗尼!

作者: dawander3r 時間: 2009-1-14 08:35 AM

原帖由 feuosma 於 2009-1-13 12:44 AM 發表

說得好.....唔訓都要回一回....

冇錯...就係短視....不過呢個唔可以怪曬賓帥....

最深層既問題係.....費sir帶左廿幾年.....佢會知道隊波晌聯賽落後緊時應該要點做...同可以點做.....

領先緊時應該要點做...同可 ...

wanna make a bit of explanation
if u analyze the factors u mention between Ferguson & Mourinho on another perspective, Ferguson has the advantage leading to his success than Mourinho
first, his management is not being affected by the board, he has the absolutely authority (Mourinho has already complained that Abrahimovich shouldn't have involved operation such as trading because he's the coach who knows who to buy for fitting his tactics)
second, Ferguson has the respect from the players because he's been in this industry and this club for so many years, in addition, the players are under his instruction since they were young, which gives Ferguson to obtain the absolute loyalty from the players
third, again, as Ferguson has been in the team for all his lifelong, of course he knows better how to adjust according to situation
Mourinho shows me the respect as only a skillful person can achieve success no matter where he is
compares to Mourinho's repositioning of Stankovic and formation of Inter now and how Scolari adjusts for Chelsea, the result is obvious on who got skills on coaching
another correction is that Mourinho always emphasizes not to use Star players, because its high odd leading to troubles, thats what he complained when Abrahimovich was planning to acquire Schevchenko, and he was right on predicting the result

作者: dawander3r 時間: 2009-1-14 08:50 AM

原帖由 filter-052fans 於 2009-1-13 11:09 AM 發表

如果係球壇之上, 大菲史高拉利都唔算係大人物既, 真係唔知咩人先算....

車迷中晒摩連奴毒, 你地既偶像, 除左浮誇吸引傳媒既功力外, 執教成績絕對比唔上大菲...

史高拉利帶金美奧同彭美拉斯都攞過巴西聯 ...

yes, Mourinho is being an idol for many people because apparently he proves what he got, for all the craps he say is already proven that his intention was to shoulder off the pressure of the players from the medias which highly make an impact to their condition (mentally leads to physically), and which has been proven successful, and that's one of the reasons he has earned the respect from the players by that
another thing is that Mourinho has way shorter coaching years than Scolari as u say, in addition, he also brought FC Porto and Chelsea won w/o star players, players from Chelsea weren't star players until they won the cup, he's the one making them to become star players man, Duff, Lampard, Terry, and Cudicini were performing so well before the arrival of Abrahimovich and Mourinho, and that's the time I started to pay attention to Chelsea

for the recent World Cup, c'mon, let me tell u this, maybe many of u wouldn't believe me, go to youtube and take a look of how these brazilian players play in those indoor league on their spare times, u should recognize there's a huge gap between their individual skills and the european teams, some of the players participated in those indoor league are also professional players from europe
u still start to doubt the result of the World Cup
the fact is, money is larger than the pride they get from winning the World Cup for their current generation because the prize they get from winning the World Cup is too small compares to what they would get from losing the cup, u know what i intend to mean right?
the value is different when u r in a well developed country and a developing country

anyways, when did u see a coach being an idol for so many people? think about why man
also, remember this, he was just a school teacher, haha....
if u can bring a team to win a cup, u will also be praised for many people, will u still think the one who praise u r all idiots and erase all the efforts u contribute yourself?

[ 本帖最後由 dawander3r 於 2009-1-14 08:53 AM 編輯 ]

作者: fderek 時間: 2009-1-14 11:53 PM

一場球賽輸了就把所有事都怪在領隊身上看來不太合理
呢場3比0我覺得根本同領隊無關
反而是車仔後防真係差左好多既問題
固中原故實在是泰利已經走下坡, 第一個入球那麼低
其實他是有足夠時間看清楚衝出來頂走...
第二球發夢讓球係自己頭頂溜走更加罪不可恕
第三球我認為真係天才表演, 實在係貝碧托夫太強既問題
當然波歷克有一定程度上要負責, 但這樣的入球實在很難會預料
只能說曼聯現今的進攻實在太強
各位如果硬要認為太菲太無能
不如看看24號對國米的比賽
我估計, 曼聯對住摩帥一樣贏得很輕鬆~

作者: dawander3r 時間: 2009-1-15 12:54 AM

原帖由 fderek 於 2009-1-14 11:53 PM 發表
一場球賽輸了就把所有事都怪在領隊身上看來不太合理
呢場3比0我覺得根本同領隊無關
反而是車仔後防真係差左好多既問題
固中原故實在是泰利已經走下坡, 第一個入球那麼低
其實他是有足夠時間看清楚衝出來頂走...
第二 ...

apparently, we are not judging by 1 match only, we are judging him by all the results till now so far
again, it's ok to lose, 1-0, 2-0, makes sense, but 3-0....that's not acceptable
the most important factor to judge a player's true value is whether the player can keep a stable solid performance, which is depends on how he manages his condition
every player has his up and down, this is something a coach also have to deal with, and that's why Mourinho talked so much craps before the match, as u know, the coach from rival teams usually like to insult some of the players for affecting their condition, psychological attack man
and such scenarios are actually very common, a good coach should always be prepared to solve the crisis when it arises
that is why we also praised Ferguson for doing his job well

[ 本帖最後由 dawander3r 於 2009-1-15 12:56 AM 編輯 ]

作者: hwkeung 時間: 2009-1-15 06:46 AM

如果唔計曼聯呢場, 車仔係英超入球最多, 失球最少o既球隊,
如果咁樣都話大菲帶得差無料的話, 咁真係無話可說,

我剩係覺得曼聯個勢實在太強, 加上主場你仲想點?
車仔輸真係無話可說.

作者: fcukyoukelly 時間: 2009-1-15 07:22 AM

我都覺得大菲帶得好
只係今仗打得2係差, 輸俾曼聯je

原帖由 hwkeung 於 2009-1-15 06:46 AM 發表
如果唔計曼聯呢場, 車仔係英超入球最多, 失球最少o既球隊,
如果咁樣都話大菲帶得差無料的話, 咁真係無話可說,

我剩係覺得曼聯個勢實在太強, 加上主場你仲想點?
車仔輸真係無話可說. ...

作者: amigofans 時間: 2009-1-15 10:02 AM

原帖由 dawander3r 於 2009-1-14 08:50 AM 發表

yes, Mourinho is being an idol for many people because apparently he proves what he got, for all the craps he say is already proven that his intention was to shoulder off the pressure of the players ...

好有興趣同大家討論摩帥既問題....

你所講摩連奴既雖然係事實, 但佢能夠成為車迷既神人偶像, 唔係因為佢咩得到球員尊重之類既問題,
最大原因係成績! 亦可以換句說話講, 佢帶車仔風光既時候多, 折墮既時間較少, 就算06/07輸比曼聯都唔算輸得太難睇....

"players from Chelsea weren't star players until they won the cup, he's the one making them to become star players man"
呢句我係100%唔同意

, 佢去車仔之前, 車仔已經球星如雲, 有無用同o岩唔o岩用係兩回事,
你只可以講係摩連奴令佢地更上一層樓, 而並非係費比加斯果種有無到有...

我有睇過你之前既文, 我明你係認為艾巴莫域治炒摩連奴係重大錯誤, 我都同意, 但有另一角度既睇法...

摩連奴上任大灑金元, 但買既唔係咩, 而全部都係名聞天下既猛將, 波圖贏左歐聯, 佢就係果度執左兩件最好既,
另外杜奧巴係法國足球先生, 迪賀奴係西班牙最搶眼既左閘....

施治, 洛賓係雲尼亞里手筆, 林柏特, 泰利, 祖高爾係英格蘭最有前途球員, 基斯普早已經係五星級戰將...
摩帥當年買人, 猶如比隊阿仙奴你帶, 買歐聯冠軍曼聯最fit兩件c7同朗尼, 再去法國執件賓斯馬一樣.....

呢種想法, 亦係俄國佬既想法, 佢認同摩帥有料之餘, 亦認為自己既錢有一半功勞,
原因係摩生買既人, 阿媽係女人, 係人有錢都識買....

當07/08開季有問題, 摩連奴埋怨無錢洗之時, 俄國先生就將佢炒魷,
其實原因就正係來自車迷太看重摩帥, 活係水銀燈下一樣既摩生,
令無人覺得老細d錢有功勞, 正所謂功高蓋主, 炒佢係咪可以理解?

作者: amigofans 時間: 2009-1-15 10:59 AM

原帖由 dawander3r 於 2009-1-14 08:50 AM 發表

yes, Mourinho is being an idol for many people because apparently he proves what he got, for all the craps he say is already proven that his intention was to shoulder off the pressure of the players ...

摩連奴教波日子少就贏到大賽, 就等於勁d? 咁c朗係咪叻過比利, 施丹同肥馬 ?

至於世界杯既問題, 你可以有呢種想法, 唔清楚你係邊一代球迷, 因為呢度連阿爺都有...
82年就當佢地係輕敵, 但當86 90, 98,06佢地失敗, 球員面上果種失落, 似乎唔係你講緊果種"money is larger than the pride"

仲有個人技術佳, 唔等於無敵, 現代足球講體能, 紀律同戰術,
巴西體能從來唔係問題, 但紀律同戰術就....

90之敗在戰術, 98, 06之敗在紀律, 要贏一個咁大既比賽, 並唔係一堆球星落場自己就甲得掂,
而家巴西仲有卡卡, 細哨同羅賓奴之流, 做咩會打到劈屎咁? 又係港式思維"money is larger than the pride"?

我從來無講摩連奴係無料到, 我亦覺得佢好, 但呢度太多人將佢神化,
將一d唔關佢事既野, 都算在佢頭上, 又或踩低而家d領隊, 連攞世界杯都講到食菜咁易, 令摩連奴最神級...

注意上文下理, 我回應既係, "史高拉利並非咩大人物"...
無意冒犯神聖既摩連奴, 罪過罪過....

作者: amigofans 時間: 2009-1-15 11:14 AM

原帖由 fcukyoukelly 於 2009-1-15 07:22 AM 發表
我都覺得大菲帶得好
只係今仗打得2係差, 輸俾曼聯je

公道d講, 最明顯係兩樣野, 第一係對big4衰晒, 打4場和得果1場, 高手過招交唔到貨,
可謂難持其疚, 其實果4場先唔講贏, 只要唔好輸晒, 相信而家榜首係車仔, not 利物浦....

第二係壓唔住班表演唔對辨又之之左左既球星, 呢個係銀彈政策既敝病,
尤如熱刺, 皇馬, 紐卡素曼城一樣, 老細當自己d錢係萬能, 買左堆大牌番黎, 成績唔好就炒領隊

新官上任, 舊人唔係佢手筆, 有人唔聽自己支笛自然要出貨, 買番自己d心頭好番黎...
但最敝老細覺得自己d錢最大, 唔會比你有時間慢慢執...最後一唔如意, 就如皇馬, 攞冠軍都要炒....

之後又係新官上任, 惡性循環又開始....

熱刺又再跌番落18位, 大家有咩啟發?
到底又係d領隊屎, 定係"銀彈政策"根本有問題呢?

作者: fderek 時間: 2009-1-19 08:55 PM

原帖由 dawander3r 於 2009-1-15 12:54 AM 發表

apparently, we are not judging by 1 match only, we are judging him by all the results till now so far
again, it's ok to lose, 1-0, 2-0, makes sense, but 3-0....that's not acceptable
the most importa ...

你某程度上講得岩, 但球員年紀老開始走下坡非領隊能控制
老實講,泰利幾次頭部重創之後已經開始唔掂,如其好似你咁話要好好控制佢既狀態
早D接受車仔自己係時候要物色新中堅來得實際~

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