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作者: herothree    時間: 2005-2-13 05:14 PM     標題: Iverson...新高...60分....plus vote on who's next

頂...
60 pts....what the....
his former best was 58 vs. houston at 2002
wow...

繼 T-Mac 62 pts last season...
iverson got 60...
(shaq got 61 in 2000)

who's next???

King James???   (former best:43)
"Vin"creible???    (former best: 51)
Kobe???            (former best:  56)
Dirk                  (53)
amare              (50)
J O'neal            (55)
allen                 (47)
wade                (39 for now....)
francis               (44)
truth pierce         (47)

who who next???
作者: brightlee    時間: 2005-2-13 05:23 PM

I think the next one should be betwen King James, Kobe and Amare...

Vince is much better than before... but I don't think he can get 60 + anymore, samiliar as Jamison.

Dirk... hard to score 60.. if all the Dallas players could shoot.

That's a litltle different situation between Suns and Dallas nowadays... cos one person.... Steve Nash....

Wade gets Shaq, Allen gets Lewis, Francis gets Hill... Pierce couldn't get that much points (similar as Michael Redd)
Then J O'Neal.... Tinsley is injured, no one can pass the ball to him.......
作者: zaft009    時間: 2005-2-13 05:36 PM

AI 又 職業生崖新高
佢上次最高58
作者: anttiniemi2000    時間: 2005-2-13 05:47 PM

should be amare.
作者: herothree    時間: 2005-2-13 05:51 PM

Originally posted by brightlee at 2005-2-13 05:23 PM:
I think the next one should be betwen King James, Kobe and Amare...

Vince is much better than before... but I don't think he can get 60 + anymore, samiliar as Jamison.

Dirk... hard to score  ...
again
have to say
"man, i love to chat w/ you bro!!!"
brother brightlee knows it all
dont' know why your "pts" is still at "0"
it pisses me off

anyway
i think Mr. "Rape" might be the next one
not a fan...but...
a 60pt+ often is the result of having a short-handed team

LAL is really short handed in terms of talents
yet surpraisingly they aren't doing that bad w/o kobe

and again...
if it's like shaq
haha...屈機, 搞掂!!!
(i personally love POWER, coz i'm a big guy myself)

also...that king james...man...
44% of the ppl say that "he has the game of his own"
18% say he's jordan-like
16% said he's like bird
22% said he's like magic
and i'm one of those 44% of ppl
a 60+ is gonna be somewhere around in his career
作者: brightlee    時間: 2005-2-13 06:57 PM

(no points) I ask the adminstrator ga.. but they don't reply me lor... hai... I get no idea lor

By the way.. if King James will not get injury plug, he should have a great career!!
But..... who knows?
Look at Penny in 95.. Everyone say he's better than Magic Johnson.. but... hai...
so look forwards and see what's happen..

Did u see my Greatest Defensive Players in NBA? what's ur selection?
作者: kyleung    時間: 2005-2-13 09:55 PM

Iverson will be the next again
作者: Ticat    時間: 2005-2-14 02:19 AM

Originally posted by herothree at 2005-2-13 04:51 AM:
anyway
i think Mr. "Rape" might be the next one
not a fan...but...
a 60pt+ often is the result of having a short-handed team
i m agree with u here herothree
we all know he can score, and he took like 30+ shot per game (most of the game at least),
King James ... some day in his career, he will get 60+ pts per game i believe, but i like his play style right now, he doing everything to help out his team, assist ... rebound .... not bad as a all around player, not bad at all
the rest ... brightlee explain it really good in one of the above ( couldnt agree more ) and i m not going to repeat it again here beside one ... Wade
his jump shot still not good, give him another yr ... once he keep get good at it ... he will be VERY dangerous, even he has Shaq, he will just let him do his thing cause and take over if he need to ( just like this year ), and for now .. i dont c any problem between them happen like things in Lakers ... since Wade is only 2nd yr ... and Kobe cant keep his mouth shut  
作者: FRANCISE    時間: 2005-2-14 11:38 AM

KOBE , AI , KING JAMES
作者: herothree    時間: 2005-2-14 06:26 PM

Originally posted by Ticat at 2005-2-14 02:19 AM:


i m agree with u here herothree
we all know he can score, and he took like 30+ shot per game (most of the game at least),
King James ... some day in his career, he will get 60+ pts per g ...
i can see brother Ticat that u have lots of hope on wade
haha, guess what, SO DO I!!!
in the beginning of the season, i was sooooo impressed by his leadership
i thought that wade will take off and be in the spot light everynight
but....but...haha
i guess King James is a million times basketball-smarter than me
so he "woke up" and started to create an era of his own
i have no idea why isn't he starting in the allstars game...(i'm not an iverson fan...)

well...haha, loved it when u said that Rapist can't shut his stinking mouth
haha

by the way guys...malone retires lu...sigh...another ringless man...due to MJ...sigh...
作者: brightlee    時間: 2005-2-14 06:35 PM

Well.. how many people couldn't get the ring due to MJ?

Mailman, Sir Charles, Patrick Ewing, Mark Price, KJ, the Grove, Shawn Kemp, Delef, Reggie Miller, Rik Smits, Dan Majerle, Penny, John Stockton, LJ,Dominique Willkins, Tim Hardaway,
Poor Them!!!
作者: Ticat    時間: 2005-2-15 01:36 AM

Originally posted by brightlee at 2005-2-14 05:35 AM:
Well.. how many people couldn't get the ring due to MJ?

Mailman, Sir Charles, Patrick Ewing, Mark Price, KJ, the Grove, Shawn Kemp, Delef, Reggie Miller, Rik Smits, Dan Majerle, Penny, John Sto ...
and guy like Robert Horry got like ... 5 rings ?? ( not saying he suck .. but compare to the list posted by brother brightlee ... yes he suck

i think its easier to get a ring as a support class .... than a star  
作者: herothree    時間: 2005-2-15 05:33 AM

Originally posted by Ticat at 2005-2-15 01:36 AM:



and guy like Robert Horry got like ... 5 rings ?? ( not saying he suck .. but compare to the list posted by brother brightlee ... yes he suck

i think its easier to get a ring as a supp ...
man...
that list of misfortunates...
haha
and robert horry might get one more with the spurs...
haha

true
more supporting players get rings
haha
becoz there's more supporting players than starplayers
haha

but...it's upset to see stockton and malone go home w/o a ring
penny and miller is still active...might be chance....(techically)
ewing might get one with Yao for being an a.coach
well...trying to make us all feel betta for some of them...but...sigh...
so upset for them....

"既生Jordan; 何生他們..." (but w/o them, can't realize how gr8 jordan is...矛盾...
作者: brightlee    時間: 2005-2-15 09:13 AM

Originally posted by Ticat at 2005-2-15 03:36:



and guy like Robert Horry got like ... 5 rings ?? ( not saying he suck .. but compare to the list posted by brother brightlee ... yes he suck

i think its easier to get a ring as a supp ...
Well, similar as Steve Kerr, how many rings he get it?
4 ... at least..
here is the list that some "rubbish" players to get a lot of rings in Bulls Dynasty.
Dickey Simpkins, Will Predue, Randy Brown, Jud Buchleor, Clive Livingston, Scott Williams, Bill Wellington, Luc Longley...

so don't blame Karl Malone was playing in Lakers last season. if he looked at this type of players, he would be really sad.... =p
作者: 射手    時間: 2005-2-15 02:10 PM

戰神真係好波...
不過都係怪76人功力薄弱
作者: herothree    時間: 2005-2-15 05:24 PM

Originally posted by 射手 at 2005-2-15 02:10 PM:
戰神真係好波...
不過都係怪76人功力薄弱
but if 76ers is now like that...
he won't get this many touches
plus i think he was "forced" to get betta
passionate freak!!!

think of any starplayers that can co-with him
(cant' think of anyone by yao ming - unselfish)
作者: herothree    時間: 2005-2-15 05:29 PM

Originally posted by herothree at 2005-2-15 05:24 PM:


but if 76ers is now like that...
he won't get this many touches
plus i think he was "forced" to get betta
passionate freak!!!

think of any starplayers that can co-with him
(ca ...
but yao i meant
作者: Ticat    時間: 2005-2-16 05:46 AM

well, what 76er need is someone that can HELP AI, doesnt really need a star, but someone that can give solid number to help him out ( around 10+ point, and some rebound ) and remember what other teams with 76er .... look at the record there .... it just SAD ..... 50% and they leading in their division ... that just sad
think of any starplayers that can co-with him
i will put Shawn Marion or AK47 in there ( they r not big score, but both of them is a freaking awesome all around player )

[ Last edited by Ticat on 2005-2-15 at 04:49 PM ]
作者: herothree    時間: 2005-2-16 07:46 AM

Originally posted by Ticat at 2005-2-16 05:46 AM:
well, what 76er need is someone that can HELP AI, doesnt really need a star, but someone that can give solid number to help him out ( around 10+ point, and some rebound ) and remember what other t ...
the players that u chose are very "Yao-Ming"-like (i love them all)
(unselfish, defensive, willing to be the "2nd options")(well...or they were forced to)
but heyheyhey, i don't see kobe,t-mac, VC or AI himself can be forced to be a more supporting players

Kobe - kicked all the other stars off "HIS" team
T-Mac - left toronto when he was refered as "Carter's little cousin"
VC - sigh... trade demand...and wasnt' being himself when he wasnt' traded (5 pts???)
AI - quote last yr "bench???u dont see the scorer leader of the league to be benched, u don't bench an allstars mvp" (i feel sorri for all of his coaches)(good leave, larry brown)
作者: brightlee    時間: 2005-2-16 11:00 AM

for Lakers, look at Odom, how sad he is in Lakers this year??

you may try some players in Mephemis... if you try to find someone not greedy..........

they get so many players above averages, and they are unselfish too.....
作者: kyleung    時間: 2005-2-16 12:05 PM

well

AI 又話想走喇

Iverson, although happy with some parts of the team, is far from excited about
the roster presently assembled. He isn't happy about being part of a rebuilding
project in his ninth season in the league.

"He wants to win now," one source close to Iverson said. "This is not about him
being interested in leaving the Sixers or the fans in Philadelphia. He loves it
here and loves being here. But the bot--- line is that he doesn't want to be
here if this team isn't trying to win right now.

"It's no secret [the Sixers] are mediocre, that he has no secondary offensive
option to help him out. And by the looks of things, he isn't about to get any
help, either. At some point, you start asking yourself, 'What else can I do?'
A.I. has done that. Now he's flat-out asked the Sixers, 'If you can't make this
situation any better, after all I've done, can you please at least do me a favor
and get me out of here?' "

King, clearly perturbed when asked about the subject, had little to say: "I
talked with Allen extensively and I'm not about to comment on what was said or
what will come of it."

Iverson confirmed that his agent met with King to express unhappiness with the
Sixers' current set of circumstances: "Go ahead. Say what you have to say."

Considering that the Sixers are still wondering whether they'll even qualify for
the playoffs, Iverson's patience has clearly been exhausted. And who knows how
annoyed he'll get once the NBA's Feb. 24 trading deadline comes and goes and the
Sixers have done nothing?

There were rumors that Keith Van Horn and Joe Smith could have come to
Philadelphia weeks ago for "Big Dog" Glenn Robinson and Corliss Williamson. In
recent days, there was speculation that Latrell Sprewell could end up here for
Robinson if the Sixers were willing to part with Willie Green as well, which
they were not.

And for those who believe either deal would qualify as a remedy to the Sixers'
problems, I'll join Iverson in asking, "What world are you living in?"

The bad thing about this whole fiasco-in-waiting is that the Sixers will be
pretty ticked off with Iverson. The good news is that Iverson couldn't care less.

He says he's been upset with coach Jim O'Brien for weeks for what are perceived
as mind games played to the detriment of Green, Samuel Dalembert, Kenny Thomas,
Marc Jackson and others; and for O'Brien's private assertion that Iverson could
be doing more to help this team win. But Iverson also has been fuming over the
frequent presence of former interim coach Chris Ford at games and practices.

The former three-time scoring champion, one-time league MVP and 2004-05 scoring
leader doesn't appreciate seeing Ford, with whom he had numerous run-ins last
season, walking around as a member of the organization, its pro-personnel scout.

"I can tell you this," another of Iverson's friends said, "A.I. does not like
that man. He felt totally disrespected by [Ford] throughout last season. And for
the Sixers to presently have him employed with the organization, allowed to walk
around, sitting in suites with Billy King, acting as if nothing ever happened,
is extremely insulting to A.I. He talks about it every single day."


不過睇完呢段野之後
我又睇多一段
佢想係 76ers 結束職業生涯....................

Allen Iverson says he wants to play the rest of his
career with the Philadelphia 76ers.

"I want to be right here," Iverson said after Tuesday's practice. "If I
could have a wish, I would wish it's the last time I have to say that. I
would wish people would know this is where I want to be."

Iverson was responding to a story in Tuesday's edition of The
Philadelphia Inquirer that said his agent met with Sixers president
Billy King last week to express the star guard's unhappiness over the
direction of the team and that he wanted to be traded if there weren't
roster upgrades.

King did meet with Iverson's agent, Leon Rose, but insisted Tuesday he
does not have an unhappy All-Star on his team.

"He never asked to be traded and he does not want to be traded," King
said.

Iverson, a three-time scoring champion who was voted to the All-Star
team for the sixth time, is enjoying perhaps the best season of his
nine-year career. He scored a career-high 60 points against Orlando on
Saturday and followed that up with 38 points against New York on Monday,
boosting his league-leading scoring average to 29.9.

He's carried a young team to a 26-26 record and a share of first place
with Boston in the Atlantic Division.

"I don't want to be a distraction on this team," Iverson said. "If there
are any distractions on this team, I don't want Allen Iverson's name
involved in it, period."

Iverson confirmed part of the newspaper story -- that he was bothered
the Sixers kept former interim coach Chris Ford as a scout. Ford and
Iverson battled for most of the final 30 games of last season, including
a dispute in which Iverson refused to come off the bench in Toronto
after he was told he wasn't going to start.

Ford was not at practice Tuesday, but is at most home games and is often
in the locker room before games.

"I honestly have a problem with it, deep down inside," Iverson said.
"Why wouldn't I? I went through a lot with that man last year and it was
tough on me, it was tough on my career, it was tough on my family and
friends."
作者: herothree    時間: 2005-2-16 06:25 PM

Originally posted by kyleung at 2005-2-16 12:05 PM:
well

AI 又話想走喇

Iverson, although happy with some parts of the team, is far from excited about
the roster presently assembled. He isn't happy about being part of a rebuilding
project in ...
thx brother kyleung's "research"
didn't know abt the inside story of A.I.
thought he's just cocky
good, more respect for him
didn't think of him this loyal...
but...again...
w/o a ring...
what do they look back in their their career....
(while they are in their millions dollars house, a whole dozen of hot rides, beauiful wife(s) "if they would stay after, not just 呃$$$"
作者: crap    時間: 2005-2-18 12:24 AM

probably Kobe....
he got the ability and selfish enough to reach that...

the one after Kobe would be James..
what he needs to do is to extend shooting range to get some 3s
lets hope he won't get injured in the future..

i eliminated the others for 3 reasons...

VC, Pierce  -- the have been the go-to-guy for many years already... if they could do that.. they should have done it already...... BUT, VC got a better chance coz he got Kidd now, hope that helps..

Amare, O'neal -- free throw accuracy may affect their possibility to reach 60, further, they are inside players, which may got more fouls and playing time will be less..

Dirk,Allen,Wade,francis -- like what Bro. Brightlee mentioned, they got others to share the points...

by the way...
can anyone tell me why KG can't score much in real life?

[ Last edited by crap on 2005-2-18 at 12:51 AM ]
作者: brightlee    時間: 2005-2-18 08:50 AM

KG???
look at the lineup in T'wolves ....
could someone pass the ball to him now?!
NO!!!

Sam Cassel was a good PG.. but he's starting to be slow......

that's why you may ask why Ewing wasn't scored 60 in his career..
firstly, look at the rest of the players in the team.....

Amare.... em.. his free throw is getting better now.. so..... he has chances to get 60....
作者: herothree    時間: 2005-2-19 04:30 PM

KG is not really a scoring machine like many are
so i really really don't see him doing 60 anytime soon...or ever
(maybe if he get like 20 o.reb then tips it back in...maybe...)

haha
and bro. "crap" said it right...u have to be selfish ENOUGH 2 get that...
so properly not KG
he just wanna win (or hate to lose)
so he will never be THAT selfish
作者: crap    時間: 2005-2-20 06:56 AM

thx bro. Brightlee and Herothree for answering my ques..

i agree that KG's not selfish, but then when his team's in deep ......poo, like what the Wolf's facing at the moment, he should stand out and to be 'selfish', that's what the fans want him to do... no time for triple double....like 30,15,10...... what they prefer would be 55 15 0... just like what AI's doing (well.. he's doing that all the time...)
like what Spiderman's uncle told him b4 he died.. something like "the more power u have the more responsibility u got"... (i cant remember the lines...sorry..)

for having someone to pass the ball to him, i think KG can do it by himself if he's around 15 feet... just a simple pass to him would be fine... i do think he should take more shots..
作者: herothree    時間: 2005-3-2 12:13 PM

you're welcome

and iverson just scored 48 again tonight

man...he's a pure scoring machine (with 8 ast too...haha)
作者: brightlee    時間: 2005-3-2 12:25 PM

yes yes... hahaha.. Webber is just around 16 points per game only.. hahahhaha
作者: kyleung    時間: 2005-3-21 10:07 AM

Oh my God
KINGS JAMES SCORES 56 today
but lost ......

Nets won Pacers
their playoff light is still on!!
go nets!! go carter!!
作者: brightlee    時間: 2005-3-21 10:12 AM

yes, so surprised that he scored 56 points!!

but I don't think Nets will be in playoff
to be honest, non-playoff team is good for them
they could draft a better big man in this case.
作者: kyleung    時間: 2005-3-21 10:18 AM

being a #8 seed is nearly the same as being a #9 or #10........?
i'd choose playoff

and Krstic is not that bad
give him some days to improve

[ Last edited by kyleung on 2005-3-21 at 10:20 AM ]
作者: crap    時間: 2005-3-21 12:22 PM

well.... it seems that Mr. Jame's gonna be the next one now................
anyone watched the game?

by the way
i think Nets still got a chance wor
it depends on how they go in the next 5 games....

my 76ers is in danger too......
作者: herothree    時間: 2005-3-22 01:43 AM

56 only
haha
poor james
and can't believe the raps beat them
haha

yes
go nets go
wanna see carter
well, other brother might say it's betta for the nets not to make it to the playoffs
for they need to draft betta inside guys
but u know what
i dont' give a da*n
just wanna watch more carter
plus that guys is hungry for playoffs
he'll jump over more than one guy or the WHOLE team if to get there
so can't wait

hero3

supa fan of VC
作者: crap    時間: 2005-3-22 02:45 AM

wahahaha, lets hope 76ers and Nets quilify for playoff together (otherwise the one to be kicked away would be 76ers if Nets make it....)

i wanna see AI more as well...
he doesn't have much time left.......
i think he's another great player who's gonna end up without a ring......
hope he won't do stupid things like Malone/ Payton did...
作者: herothree    時間: 2005-3-22 12:40 PM

he won't
too proud
he wont' even go to a team with a existing super stars
haha
作者: crap    時間: 2005-3-22 03:00 PM

Originally posted by herothree at 2005-3-22 12:40 PM:
he won't
too proud
he wont' even go to a team with a existing super stars
haha
haha, good point, lets hope he won't got traded away la......
作者: herothree    時間: 2005-3-23 01:58 AM

trading iverson
nah...
if they would...they would have done it when larry brown was there
they've fired sooooooo many coaches just to please iverson
so
i don't see them trading iverson...anytime soon
or ....ever...
作者: crap    時間: 2005-3-23 03:14 AM

it would be great to see AI stays in Philadelphia for the rest of his career as a fans of his...
so i dun hv to reconsider whether i support the team/ the player..........

it happened to me... i became a fans of a team (soccer) for years because of 1 player i like, but then he got sold... then i dunno whether to follow or not.. haha
作者: kyleung    時間: 2005-3-23 06:30 PM

hey guys i just check their coming games
i found that Cavaliers' are very hard and they have 10 away games ( 7 home)
i think they'll fall down very soon ...........
and 76ers games are tough for them too
作者: herothree    時間: 2005-3-23 06:31 PM

sigh...
brother crap...
as for mei...
i lost carter...
dont' even care abt the raps anymore (well...still a little)...(when they play net jersey...haha)
作者: kyleung    時間: 2005-3-23 06:33 PM

and very sad that
Magic lost Turkoglu for the whole season
and Nets game are the easiest among all those team
so there are actually 6 teams competing 4 positions
作者: herothree    時間: 2005-3-23 06:46 PM

what's your pick then bro.kyleung
作者: kyleung    時間: 2005-3-23 06:52 PM

honestly
i think Nets dont have a big chance ( less than 40%)
but i hope they can kick Bulls / Cavaliers down
and get their positions
finally
i think Cavaliers will fall down to no.8
and the playoff teams will be the top 8 now
作者: brightlee    時間: 2005-3-23 07:00 PM

compare with Cavs.
Bulls has a less chance to be beaten in playoff

Scott Skiles did the great job to let the chemistry on.
作者: herothree    時間: 2005-3-24 01:58 AM

wow...
nets up to 6???
interesting...(u don't like lebron this much???bro kyleung)

and yes, brobrightlee
the bulls are gr8 this yr...
i hope they dont' lose too many players next yr

remember the clippers???
when miles and odom were still back there
when they got brand
i thought the clips were gonna go somewhere...
all the sudden...odom left...then miles...then...sigh...
作者: Ticat    時間: 2005-3-24 10:39 AM

even if nets get into playoff, let hope the get better than number 7 ... cause 7 and 8 probly will play Heat and Piston .... which mean 90% of first round bye bye
作者: zatoichi    時間: 2005-3-24 10:58 AM

I agree with with herothree. High scorers often come from short handed teams, so I thk it will either be Kobe, AI or James. Who knows what will happen? Maybe we'll be suprised since Damon Stoudamire scored 54 earlier this season, or maybe some rookie next yr, or maybe Yao will be the next....no

Btw, did u listened to Nas's song that dissed Kobe?
作者: kyleung    時間: 2005-3-24 01:48 PM

nope
i didnt say Nets up to number 6
i just said Cava will fall down to no.8
and then Bulls Pacers and Sixers became 5 6 7
and Nets wont be in playoff

i like King James ( and gooden )
but i dont like the Cavaliers
作者: herothree    時間: 2005-3-24 10:55 PM

oh...u HOPE they can kick them down
haha

nah...pacers???
nah...they have no chance
also
i kinda don't wanna they to make it
(poor miller again)
(he can come to toronto next yr...we need a 3pt er, coz dont' think marshall will stay)
but he's old...he probably is done...

Like King and Gooden but not the Cav's???
just like me b4 then...like Carter but not Raptors
作者: brightlee    時間: 2005-3-25 03:18 AM

will be Cavs was having a big win yesterday.. as Malone is the coach........

em.. something out of our expect?!




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