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作者: kyleung    時間: 2005-2-24 01:20 PM     標題: WEBBER IS TRADED!!??

Kings 食錯藥嗎?
AI+ Webber......呵呵
      Report: Sixers acquire Webber from Kings

      February 23, 2005
      BRISTOL, Connecticut (Ticker) - The Philadelphia 76ers apparently have
finally gotten superstar Allen Iverson some help.

      On the eve of the NBA trading deadline, the 76ers have acquired star
forward Chris Webber from the Sacramento Kings in a six-player deal,
according to a report on ESPN.com.

      According to the report, the Sixers also received swingman Matt Barnes
and forward Michael Bradley. They sent forwards Kenny Thomas, Corliss
Williamson and Brian Skinner to the Kings, who clearly are looking to pare
payroll.

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作者: herothree    時間: 2005-2-24 01:27 PM

it's true...
what the crap.........
obivously they're trying to free up the payroll...
but.......but.......
haha
iverson's dream has come true tho
i'm happy 4 him...
haha...
still shocked...

since the carter's trade...
this is def. the biggest one...
man...
作者: Ticat    時間: 2005-2-24 01:32 PM

is that surprise to u ???
since the start of season .. we know that either Chris Webber or Peja Stojakovic will get trade after Webber open his mouth in public saying Peja too soft last year during playoff and that why they lost ... ( something like that .. cant remember exact word ) since then, its like a well known thing that they dont get along ... so one of them will be gone ....
i know KING fans will be piss because of that .... but if u a Webber fan, u should be happy that Webber move to East, since East forward is not as strong compare to West IMO

oh BTW, just notice my pts ... i think Bro shaqkobe still oue me 30 pts i never get my pts, no biggy though, talking in this board become my daily thing to do

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作者: 科    時間: 2005-2-24 01:32 PM

救命!!我好想爆粗呀!!
有無人可以話我知發生緊咩事呀!!!!!
Kenny Thomas !?唔好比我見到佢打正選.....

老實講我希望走既係peja......
不過睇真d會知道C.web同miller其實係撞左位的
送走狀態不佳的webber也算是合理
只希望webber同ai會有火花...
至於kings......換來的人實在慘不忍睹
我會將希望放在songaila身上.........

[ Last edited by 科 on 2005-2-24 at 01:42 PM ]
作者: brightlee    時間: 2005-2-24 02:24 PM

I think Kings is on rebuilding situation.
When they lost Divac,(it's normal for 36 yrs old center), then lost Doug Christie (trade to Mobley).....
then the trent is coming....

As we know that Peja and C Webber were not happy in this situation now, so one of them should be out.
The advantage for this trade will be (in Kings) Peja would get more happier in the team.....
The bench is a little bit stronger.... (cos they get Skinner and Kenny Thomas.
The disadv for the Kings will be they lost an attacker...... well, the formation for Kings will be changing.. but it may be good for them. (in long term)
As we know Webber is injured-prove and he's not as stable as he was (especially in defense) these 3 players may be helping Kings in defending (except height problem)

76ers will get the most adv in this trade and will win the 3rd seed more easily than we expect.
AI could get some helper to help him...
but as Christ Webber is injured-proved, we should be caution that, will AI can make the chemistry with Webber... or not.. see Big Dog (Glenn Robinson? also no. 1 draft pick, also would like to keep the ball)

so let see how's AI doing in future... if he could give up more balls, then his career would be longer,  otherwise, the trade will be wasted.
作者: shaqkobe    時間: 2005-2-24 06:47 PM

kings呢個交易真係另人覺得怪怪地，唔通真係忍唔到webber佢果黎漫不經心既態度？不過點都好最大得益者一定係76人，但係AI、webber夾唔夾呢?希望AI依家成熟左，可以融合到啦。

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作者: shaqkobe    時間: 2005-2-24 07:14 PM

呢個交易落實左架啦??
作者: 科    時間: 2005-2-24 07:41 PM

Originally posted by shaqkobe at 2005-2-24 07:14 PM:
呢個交易落實左架啦??
落實左啦,係惡夢
作者: brightlee    時間: 2005-2-24 07:50 PM

Espn is confrimed about this trade... but that's no in official yet.....
作者: wai214    時間: 2005-2-24 08:01 PM

well...not surprise seeing Webber departs, but surprise that the Kings accepts such a deal.  Actually, I think the lost of Webber is not going to cause big problem to the Kings since Mobley, Bibbly, Peja and Miller can share Webber's role.  (They are better without Webber last year)

Through this trade, Kings has also upgraded its bench with more deep on the Foward position.  Beside, Kings also has the financial flexibility for next year.

Philly simply make another push for their playoff run...that's all...

I am expecting the Blazers to deal Shareef
作者: brightlee    時間: 2005-2-24 09:06 PM

financial will NOT be flexible in Kings next yr.
all of the players, Skinners, williamson and Thomas are having long contracts......

so watch out the future for Kings.....
作者: kakueeken    時間: 2005-2-24 09:22 PM

落實左 la, 唉.....我都希望呢個只係轉會傳言。
聽到呢個消息,仲傷心個尋日看住arsenal 俾拜仁大炒。
正如 kyleung 所講, 呢個絕對係食錯藥0既決定。

可能大家認為kings 志在減少薪酬支出, 因為 webber 仲有3年總值6千200萬的高價合約, 平均年薪超過2千萬。但大家都知nba 買賣唔同足球, 係無轉會費, 而換來0既3名球員0既薪金係等同 webber 0既薪金。詳情如下:
K.THOMAS : 5年3千9百萬(但轉會後+15%)
Williams: 2年1千2百50萬
Skinner: 1年4百90萬死約, 另一年5百90萬生約, 但即使 kings 唔續約, 也要付合約的75%
(from ESPN.COM)

即是kings 的薪金開支係交易後沒有減少, 也沒有最後1年合約的球員。以薪金來說, 唯一好處是替這3人找買家, 理論上比 webber 容易。

至於3人來投,樂觀點看是強化了後備力量(但代價是削弱了正選力量),
也可以增強球隊的防守及搶籃板球的能力(或說是比較勤力去搶籃板球)。我相信 Kenny Thomas 會是 kings 的新正選大前鋒, 但6-7寸的他在西岸很難有上季平均 double-double 的表現, 而且在防守一眾7尺高的頂級大前鋒相信會很吃力, 這一點他在火箭時代的舊隊友 mobley 相信早己體會到。

我敢講呢3個人加起來都唔會好過一個走緊下坡的 webber。在先後失去了 divac, Christie, webber 之後, kings 仍會是全聯盟最多助攻的球隊嗎? 如果這筆交易的目的是為了留下 peja, 我真的不明白為何要犧牲 webber 去爭取一個尚未動筆續約, 也沒有領導能力的球員。最重要係, 一個咁重要0既交易, 應該係季前做, 或者打埋呢個球季先做, kings 今季咁就玩完, 唉.............

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作者: 科    時間: 2005-2-24 10:27 PM

kenny thomas條蛋散得6尺7係西岸守條毛都未夠班啦
Duncan,KG,Stoudemire,Nowitzki,Gasol,Odom全部勁你幾班
用Miller守佢地,佢又唔夠高守人地d中鋒............真係
唔好唔記得Mobley今年就約滿,走埋都唔出奇
如果個3件野仲有長約係身,咁kings就可以收皮了
作者: brightlee    時間: 2005-2-24 11:24 PM

i think they will sign Mobley...

height is a big problem for Kings, but to be honest, Kings needs to steps up to restructuring....
it's in transaction period..

Look for future.. 1 or 2 yrs.. no one knows.....
see Bulls, how many yrs they were at the bot--- in the league??
See Clippers?!
Kings is much better than them....
if they may fire Rick Adelman.. then at that moment, Kings will be finished
作者: 科    時間: 2005-2-25 12:15 AM

KINGS在重組中我是同意的
不過無左WEBBER既KINGS已經完全係另一回事了
就算今年佢地拎總冠軍,但無左webber,我都唔會十分高興.........
作者: kakueeken    時間: 2005-2-25 01:02 AM

Originally posted by 科 at 2005-2-25 12:15 AM:
KINGS在重組中我是同意的
不過無左WEBBER既KINGS已經完全係另一回事了
就算今年佢地拎總冠軍,但無左webber,我都唔會十分高興.........
me2, 我考慮過檔做 76人 or suns 0既 fans,
看番之前的 viedo, 發覺令我著迷的 kings 已人面全非,
原來的陣容只剩 peja。

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作者: shaqkobe    時間: 2005-2-25 07:13 PM

Originally posted by kakueeken at 2005-2-25 01:02 AM:


me2, 我考慮過檔做 76人 or suns 0既 fans,
看番之前的 viedo, 發覺令我著迷的 kings 已人面全非,
原來的陣容只剩 peja。

[ Last edited by kakueeken on 2005-2-25 at 01:28 AM ]
確實kings既強隊之名已經終結，係全盛果年羅唔到總冠軍就注定有今日(不過估唔到係今季)，因為講真今季中段打得幾好，可以叫做中興時期，雖然冠軍就難架啦，不過入到Playoff一切都係未知之數。唔明kings高層點解要咁做，Peja同webber真係不和?
作者: kakueeken    時間: 2005-2-26 01:48 AM

其實 mobley 轉會之後, 我真係覺得 kings 是有機會挑戰冠軍, 或者話有一定機會入西岸決賽。在西岸中, 真正一支獨秀的只是 spurs,我覺得 kings 面對suns, seattle, dallas, rockets 都有機會勝出。點解唔等埋今季先換人呢? 唉.............
作者: brightlee    時間: 2005-2-26 07:46 AM

if u were in management team, you would know..
for example, if Peja is really upset about what's happened now.
then you would try your best to keep Peja......

you may be wonder why I don't support Webber...

think deeply, this player in injruy-plauged......
and when he came back from injury... he was not the players he was...  and a big contract too...
look at Penny before?!!!
or LJ?!
the stats was shown they were "ok" as the first season after they got injury.
but as the management forsee their future, LJ and Penny were traded and they performance.... .... =(
Chris Webber would be the same case too.....
and he's in courts so many yrs in these 3 or 4 yrs in Kings...
so it won't be a surpirsed if Kings would trade Webber
作者: kakueeken    時間: 2005-2-26 05:39 PM

老實講, 我同意 kings 要增強實力, trade 走 webber 係必需的。 換人唔係大問題, 但點解呢3個球員都要換先係問題。而家3名換來0既球員, 可以增強到球隊最需要0既rebound & low post 攻擊? 如果唔得點解要換人?如果唔係 kings 班高層食錯藥, peja 可能係唯一原因, 唉.........

早前我聽過 kings 會送webber 去 ny換 kurt thomas,我覺得反而可以一試。 甚至乎, 你衰極都搵一個雲漢, 或者可以有實力打正選大前鋒0既人ah。而家songalia / k.thomas 之中揀一個打正選, 我都唔知點揀。
作者: 科    時間: 2005-2-26 05:56 PM

無聊問題,知唔知
webber會著幾多號
4號已經比小AI著左
佢會唔會WEAR返88?
作者: brightlee    時間: 2005-2-26 05:58 PM

em.. Webber may wear no.5
I remember he wore it before

I got what you mean..
but I would trade Van Horn, too expensive......
and Webber would not be happy.. cos Bucks is hardly to goto playoff this yr.
作者: kakueeken    時間: 2005-2-26 11:25 PM

Originally posted by 科 at 2005-2-26 05:56 PM:
無聊問題,知唔知
webber會著幾多號
4號已經比小AI著左
佢會唔會WEAR返88?
WEBBER都係著4號, 新人 Iguodala 改著9號,夠哂尊重前輩。
作者: brightlee    時間: 2005-2-26 11:27 PM

yes I read in ESPN.com about it.. hehe.. Webber will wear no.4
Iguodala wear no. 9 cos he's respecting "Fab Five" in Michigan when Webber was playing in NCAA..
(maybe that's why he wore no. 4 before?!)
By the way.. did you see Celtics?
Walker wears no.88, so funny
作者: 豪123    時間: 2005-2-27 02:04 AM

WEBBER老了加上佢同PEJA唔妥
梗係要個射手好過啦
況且WEBBER傷完後都無法回復水準
作者: 科    時間: 2005-2-27 11:49 AM

Webber今晚得1個助攻,實在有點失望
Kings方面Kthomas打得比我想像中好,
不過我依然十分討厭佢!

WEBBER都係著紫色好睇d


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作者: 科    時間: 2005-2-27 05:20 PM

今日呢度咁靜既?
係咪sunday出曬街?
作者: brightlee    時間: 2005-2-27 05:47 PM

hahha.. maybe...!!!
it's strange today.. not many people in discussion board,
By the way, Well, Webber missed the final shot today, poor him....
作者: 大b    時間: 2005-2-27 06:15 PM

我唔識籃球
但10年前佢打子彈隊果對鞋
死慳幾個月買的cw2
難忘難忘

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作者: herothree    時間: 2005-2-28 03:53 PM

Originally posted by shaqkobe at 2005-2-24 05:47 AM:
kings呢個交易真係另人覺得怪怪地，唔通真係忍唔到webber佢果黎漫不經心既態度？不過點都好最大得益者一定係76人，但係AI、webber夾唔夾呢?希望AI依家成熟左，可以融合到啦。

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not as 怪 as the VC trade
but yes...
c.web will look weird in other uniform

bigB:  your shoes look gr8
作者: 科    時間: 2005-2-28 06:35 PM

boston加左Walker之後連suns都贏到
76ers要小心了......
作者: shaqkobe    時間: 2005-3-2 05:21 PM

Originally posted by 科 at 2005-2-28 06:35 PM:
boston加左Walker之後連suns都贏到
76ers要小心了......
係呀，我覺得76人同boston應該有排爭，仲要係我覺得佢地到最後都係兩個只能活一個，都仲係爭緊個名義上既三號種子，實則既東岸第八

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作者: brightlee    時間: 2005-3-2 05:43 PM

no ga.. I think the winner in that division, should be around 6th seeds in realistic la.....
作者: shaqkobe    時間: 2005-3-2 05:56 PM

Originally posted by brightlee at 2005-3-2 05:43 PM:
no ga.. I think the winner in that division, should be around 6th seeds in realistic la.....
好難講呀！依家Boston、溜馬同魔術就係6、7、8位，講真三隊都好有實力(雖然海鮮D)，不過76人上唔上到黎都成問題，就算上到都隨時要同Boston爭最後一個位架咋。
作者: brightlee    時間: 2005-3-2 06:01 PM

truth.. but from what I see... Orlando maybe lost playoff,
they don't play it well since the between Doug Christie and Mobley......
but Celtics, Magic, Pacers, 76ers are starting to be better now....
作者: shaqkobe    時間: 2005-3-2 06:05 PM

Originally posted by brightlee at 2005-3-2 06:01 PM:
truth.. but from what I see... Orlando maybe lost playoff,
they don't play it well since the between Doug Christie and Mobley......
but Celtics, Magic, Pacers, 76ers are starting to be better no ...
我就覺得最後三名不出呢四隊之爭啦。
作者: brightlee    時間: 2005-3-2 06:15 PM

hahha.. I think so la.. of cos when I type it.... =P

that's why I said it before if 76ers wins the division, and if they vs Pacers, they would be in troubles, cos Artest will be back in playoffs
作者: herothree    時間: 2005-3-3 08:28 PM

海鮮???
ng und. pls explain (o^.^o)

well...i dont' think there's such things as realistically standings
for being the div. leader should be respected no matter how bad the div. is
out shine a entire div. isn't easy (for they play among themselve more)

guys
how abt NJ Nets
they've won again tonight (beat 76ers...doesn't that tell ppl sth abt their true power in the div.???)
they are catching up real close
carter's 3pts are betta than ever...
he now is a full package........sigh...(u guys probably know what i'm gonna say here...why didn't he stay in toronto)
haha
well
wish him the best

for this is still a webber post
i'll talk abt webber for abit
the 76ers lost to the Nets tonight
he only scored 10 pts and grab 8 boards (5To's) in 35 mins
how long do u guys think it'll take webber to truly become a "76er"???

i say ...next season....
作者: brightlee    時間: 2005-3-3 11:00 PM

Next Season?
To be honest, depends on his injury....
作者: 樂壇渣Fit人    時間: 2005-3-4 12:45 AM

Originally posted by herothree at 2005-3-3 20:28:
海鮮???
ng und. pls explain (o^.^o)

well...i dont' think there's such things as realistically standings
for being the div. leader should be respected no matter how bad the div. is
out shine ...
海鮮波=靠唔住
作者: herothree    時間: 2005-3-4 03:59 AM

Originally posted by 樂壇渣Fit人 at 2005-3-3 11:45 AM:


海鮮波=靠唔住
haha
thx thx
作者: shaqkobe    時間: 2005-3-5 10:47 AM

Originally posted by 樂壇渣Fit人 at 2005-3-4 12:45 AM:


海鮮波=靠唔住
最好既解釋應該係時好時壞。
作者: 科    時間: 2005-3-26 12:18 PM

wow
today AI 36 CWEB 32
the chemistry is coming out??
作者: kyleung    時間: 2005-3-26 12:40 PM

webber 竟然夠膽射波多過 ai
真係斗膽
作者: kakueeken    時間: 2005-3-26 01:08 PM

Originally posted by 科 at 2005-3-26 12:18 PM:
wow
today AI 36 CWEB 32
the chemistry is coming out??
可惜 C WEBR 打左40MINS 都係得6個 REB,
希望他們繼續努力 LA。
作者: brightlee    時間: 2005-3-26 01:18 PM

we'll see it in the playoffs....
作者: crap    時間: 2005-3-27 08:08 AM

Originally posted by brightlee at 2005-3-26 01:18 PM:
we'll see it in the playoffs....
ha...
i'm just still HOPING to see THEM in the playoffs......

u r really that confidence that then can qualify?
i didn't watch one bloody NBA game since i left HK.... so i know nthg about every teams' conditition... and that's y i can't predict who'll make/ miss...
作者: shaqkobe    時間: 2005-3-27 12:17 PM

Originally posted by brightlee at 2005-3-26 01:18 PM:
we'll see it in the playoffs....
不過好有機會對往熱火or活塞，要進級可謂不可能的任務。76人內線實力始終係唔強。webber好易就會被對方大前鋒凍結，另外Ai亦要對住wade、jones or Billups 、Hamilton呢兩對後勁的衛線組合強如Ai亦難以佔到甜頭。

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作者: crap    時間: 2005-3-27 04:31 PM

Originally posted by shaqkobe at 2005-3-27 12:17 PM:

不過好有機會對往熱火or活塞，要進級 ...
ai... u right...
i'll be upset at that time...
but i'll be happy enough to overcome that upset as long as they make the playoff
i think the 2 most upset things for players are
1. after fighting for 48 minutes/more and end up losing 1-3 pts...
2. after fighting for 82 games and end up 1-3 games behind the eighth seed...
作者: 科    時間: 2005-3-27 05:10 PM

Originally posted by crap at 2005-3-27 04:31 PM:
ai... u right...
i'll be upset at that time...
but i'll be happy enough to overcome that upset as long as they make the playoff
i think the 2 most upset things for players are
1. after fighting for 48 minutes/more and end up losing 1-3 pts...
2. after fighting for 82 games and end up 1-3 games behind the eighth seed...
oh , i think situation "2" is more upset .......
because u had spent alot on that year........
but finally u got nothing........too bad
作者: 科    時間: 2005-3-28 11:02 AM

webber20中7
AI27中5
~.~

KOBE8連敗......
作者: shaqkobe    時間: 2005-3-28 11:11 AM

Originally posted by 科 at 2005-3-28 11:02 AM:
webber20中7
AI27中5
~.~

KOBE8連敗......
嘩。webber加AI得25%命中率，76人成隊波命中率4成都唔夠，咁都贏到？湖人真係好羞家。
作者: kyleung    時間: 2005-3-28 11:15 AM

27 中 5 真係.....
我去射都可能好過佢
不過呢個係 ai 特色...
作者: kyleung    時間: 2005-3-28 01:44 PM

原來 ai 組合今晚一場做左 4 個 alleyoop :cool:
作者: pakho    時間: 2005-3-28 01:59 PM

呢場AI有十五次助攻~~~勁~~~~~
KB呢場最強~不過only靠佢都冇叉用~

球員  先發 時間  投籃  三分  罰球  進攻 防守 總數  助攻 犯規 抄截  阻攻  分
AI      G     43   5-28   0-6  10-14   1      1     2      15     2     4      0     20
CW     F     40   7-20   0-1   0-0     1     13    14     4      4     2      0     14
KB     G     39   10-22  6-13  8-8    0     10    10      5      4     0      1     34

[ Last edited by pakho on 2005-3-28 at 02:07 PM ]
作者: brightlee    時間: 2005-3-28 02:11 PM

see, no Odom, the Lakers is finished....
作者: pk2000    時間: 2005-3-28 03:08 PM

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