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作者: brightlee    時間: 2005-3-10 03:26 AM     標題: Arsenal vs Bayern Munich

here we are, let's have the starting lineup

Arsenal:

1                 Jens Lehmann
3                 Ashley Cole
12                 Bisan Lauren
20                 Philippe Senderos
28                 Kolo Toure
16                 Mathieu Flamini
8                 Fredrik Ljungberg
9                 Jose Antonio Reyes
4                 Patrick Vieira
10                 Dennis Bergkamp
14                 Thierry Henry

sub

22                 Gael Clichy
15                 Francesc Fabregas
42                 Quincy Owusu - Abeyie
7                 Robert Pires
19                 Gilberto Silva
13                 Stuart Taylor
11                 Robin Van Persie

Bayern

1  Oliver Kahn                
5  Robert Kovac                
69 Bixente Lizarazu                
3  Ferreira Lucio                
2  Willy Sagnol                
13 Michael Ballack                
26 Sebastian Deisler                
6  Martin Demichelis                
20 Hasan Salihamidzic                
33  Paolo Guerrero                
14  Claudio Pizarro                

sub

23  Owen Hargreaves                
9  Vahid Hashemian                
16 Jens Jeremies                
25 Thomas Linke                
22 Michael Rensing                
31 Bastian Schweinsteiger                
11 Jose Ze Roberto

[ Last edited by brightlee on 2005-3-10 at 05:28 AM ]
作者: pakho    時間: 2005-3-10 03:41 AM

加油呀~~~Arsenal~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
作者: 科    時間: 2005-3-10 03:42 AM

噢,wake up ,剛剛好~
看來kann係時候發左啦,
睇下佢今晚會唔會送大禮
作者: pakho    時間: 2005-3-10 03:43 AM

科哥唔係睇皇馬咩???
作者: brightlee    時間: 2005-3-10 03:44 AM

maybe he's watching Arsenal together....
作者: 科    時間: 2005-3-10 03:56 AM

我一路2邊狂轉,
皇馬1開波後面已經白痴左2球波,好在無輸.......
阿記個邊,bayen中場好似壓得好緊哦
作者: brightlee    時間: 2005-3-10 10:36 AM

fiinally, after the few hours after this game, I am back...
Bayern play extremely well, they desire to qualify.
But one thing, Arsenal has future, you can see Senderos today, it's completely different than when Cygan is in there.
Toure got less pressure....
Yes, he made one mistakes nearly at the end..  but as this was his 1st champions league in his life, also this game, he got a lot of pressure from Bayern strikers.. he did it really well...
作者: Pharaoh    時間: 2005-3-10 10:43 AM

贏波出局... OK喇~
睇o左大半埸仲以為會 0 - 0... 好在 Henry 都入番球!
Edu結果都係唔出得... 比 Bayern 完全控制中埸...
Bayern players' teamwork is very good with fast short passes, and with excellent positioning... just make it so difficult for Arsenal players to organise themselves...
Flamini & Fabregas had both done a great job again as the partner of Vieira... you can't ask for much as they are facing worldclass midefielder like Ballack'S AGRESSIVE playing style...
Lehmann also showed his class & i hope he can keep it!
Senderos is so GREAT, you can't believe he's not a regular first team member from his headers & tackles! Lauren had also made several key tackles!
Have not seen Arsenal's defence in such a solid form for quite awhile!
But Reyes was still not in good form... ashley as well... Pires... again... had done nothing... van Persie... as Wenger's last sub... was just wasting chances...

Anyway... 1 - 3 in 1st leg is a defeat... too big to overcome in the mini pitch of Highbury & against the well organised Bayern... I WILL WAIT FOR NEXT SEASON!
作者: Pharaoh    時間: 2005-3-10 10:45 AM

Originally posted by brightlee at 2005-3-10 10:36 AM:
Yes, he made one mistakes nearly at the end..
rather than a mistake... i think that's the pitch problem la...
anyway, he's is wonderkid!
作者: brightlee    時間: 2005-3-10 10:59 AM

To be fair, Bayern is as always, they are great in tactics.. (I remember one of the posts from someone yesterday in here, he said that)

I think there is his 5th game Senderos to be started in Gunners' career, which is great for him...
and he should be one of the greatest defenders in Premier League in future..

(another one I would pick, is John O'Shea)
作者: erik    時間: 2005-3-10 11:54 AM

Yes
{ I think there is his 5th game Senderos to be started in Gunners' career, which is great for him...
and he should be one of the greatest defenders in Premier League in future..  }
i agree because he is still young ,
i very dispointed about the result , i hope wenger will buy a great defender in future .........
how about King (spurs)
作者: brightlee    時間: 2005-3-10 12:08 PM

the result is ok, remember in tactical, Bayern deserves to win the series
I don't think they need a defenderif Senderos is playing like this, i am concerning who could be replacing Dennis Berkgamp.... this is the major parts for Gunners future, of cos, they need a reliable GK, (Struat Taylor)!!!!
作者: erik    時間: 2005-3-10 12:23 PM

.......................
YOU GET THE POINT
BENNIS IS STILL MAKE A GOOD EFFECT IN THE TEAM , HE IS KEY-PERSON IN TEAM
I THINK THEY WILL DIFFICULT TO FOUND THE REPLACE HIM ,,
CAN HE DO THE JOB ??

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作者: 科    時間: 2005-3-10 12:31 PM

噢,尋晚呢到唔知發生咩事
有成3~4個鐘上唔到來............

太差了..........阿仙奴,巴塞,皇馬
呢d以攻為主既球隊竟然全部出局..............
阿仙奴個場無計啦,Bayen迫得太好啦
我諗就算巴塞對住佢地都無咩甜頭
皇馬就抵輸喇,祖雲前面根本無咩料到
咁都要失2球....中場換出左Zidane之後
死晒火.......組織力=0...........
加上beckham又隱形......
~.~too bad........西甲全軍覆沒......唉

8強(車仔,利物浦,拜仁,里昂,Psv,AC,祖雲,波圖/國米)
除左車仔對AC之外 我對其他Match up都無咩興趣.....
現在皇馬出局了,我唯有轉捧AC同祖雲

[ Last edited by 科 on 2005-3-10 at 12:32 PM ]
作者: brightlee    時間: 2005-3-10 12:31 PM

No, different type of person...
I think you may try to look out Van Persie or Bentley
in this current squad, they should have the highest potential to be the key man in strikers.
(you know I am talking about strikers, not midfield, you may choose Robert Pires to be in midfield, but he's 32 now...)
作者: brightlee    時間: 2005-3-10 12:37 PM

just a small reminding for kyleung,

I am not blaming you or saying too rough things to you, (u could see I am not that type of person)

remmeber once upon a time, you were arguing Spanish League is much better than FA Premier League?!

If you think about what you said before, and check out the teams in quad final.
You could see NO Spanish teams in last 8 now

from what your theory, it's not working.......

I am trying to say, different league has different styles, you can't compare too much.
For example, can you believe 2 of the German teams lost 16 goals (totally in last 16?!)

Can you believe the top 2 in English league last year, they were out already?! (but the 3rd and 4the spot in last year, they are in last 8?)

It's just a game.. this competition, it's shown different styles of soccer, who could play better in a short per year.......
作者: kwongt    時間: 2005-3-10 04:05 PM

Originally posted by brightlee at 2005-3-10 10:59 AM:
To be fair, Bayern is as always, they are great in tactics.. (I remember one of the posts from someone yesterday in here, he said that)

I think there is his 5th game Senderos to be started in G ...
德國佬既計劃週詳就係人都知....
佢地係世界杯計算走線真係一絕!!
作者: brightlee    時間: 2005-3-10 04:32 PM

hahha.. yes, I remember what's happen in 1990 worldcup and 2002 world cup
hahahha
great point!
作者: kwongt    時間: 2005-3-10 04:36 PM

Originally posted by brightlee at 2005-3-10 04:32 PM:
hahha.. yes, I remember what's happen in 1990 worldcup and 2002 world cup
hahahha
great point!
其實德國足球經過十年條整期, 係時候復興架!!!
作者: brightlee    時間: 2005-3-10 06:24 PM

Well, to be honest, I watched Euro 2004, Czech KO them.. so they need to improve again...
they don't have great teens, this may make them in troubles...
作者: kwongt    時間: 2005-3-10 07:39 PM

Originally posted by brightlee at 2005-3-10 06:24 PM:
Well, to be honest, I watched Euro 2004, Czech KO them.. so they need to improve again...
they don't have great teens, this may make them in troubles...
呢個係引入外援既後遺症....
係80年代德國足球係冇外援, 全土炮....
80年代亦德國足球近代既黃金年代.....
近年各國聯賽開放, 大量引入外援....導致本土球員少出場機會!
英國, 德國同西班牙都有同樣情況..........
作者: brightlee    時間: 2005-3-10 08:37 PM

Italy gets the same situation....

Well.. also, nowadays, people are not concerning abotu the national games as they were before
作者: kwongt    時間: 2005-3-10 09:24 PM

Originally posted by brightlee at 2005-3-10 08:37 PM:
Italy gets the same situation....

Well.. also, nowadays, people are not concerning abotu the national games as they were before
現在既足球運動太商業化了...
國家隊都開始喇....巴西隊跟nike簽既合約係巴西隊每年要去唔同地方作表演賽promote nike....
遲d唔知其他國家隊會唔會效法?
球員係球會, 商業贊助賺太多錢喇....國家隊比賽對球員黎講已經成為次要.....
作者: brightlee    時間: 2005-3-10 10:03 PM

yes, that's why international games.. it's seems getting less important..
same as Davis Cup/ ATP Tours
作者: brightlee    時間: 2005-3-10 10:04 PM

I mean in Tennis, Davis Cup vs ATP TOURS (or Grand Slam)
作者: kwongt    時間: 2005-3-10 10:10 PM

Originally posted by brightlee at 2005-3-10 10:03 PM:
yes, that's why international games.. it's seems getting less important..
same as Davis Cup/ ATP Tours
d球員收入同表現唔成比例....
曼聯既布朗都過佰萬磅年薪....唉......
作者: brightlee    時間: 2005-3-10 10:26 PM

Not only him....
if you see some NBA players, you should close your eyes too....!!
do you know Calvin Booth gets nearly $8 or $9 millions?!
(well hardly play in the game, injury in all last season)

Brown is not the expansive one.....
if you think about Ole, he got injury for 2 years, and he should get the payments, you should shack your head.....
作者: kwongt    時間: 2005-3-10 11:26 PM

Originally posted by brightlee at 2005-3-10 10:26 PM:
Not only him....
if you see some NBA players, you should close your eyes too....!!
do you know Calvin Booth gets nearly $8 or $9 millions?!
(well hardly play in the game, injury in all last sea ...
所以NBA比賽既quality每況愈下....入坐率低...大部分球會都蝕本呀.........
其實d球員最落力表現�麛y季一定係佢�]合約最後一年...一續左長約個一季一定表現得好屎.....
最好都係同班友逐年續約....
作者: brightlee    時間: 2005-3-10 11:43 PM

well, in someway, they have have some long contracts!
to protect their career, they are not liking you and me.. when they finish his sporting career, he maybe retired.. and hardly to find job (I am seriously talking about it)

Yes, the quality in NBA is going downwards.
iif you see NBA iin starting 80s (after revoluation in late 70s), then you could see how professional they are.
you know in 80s or in early 90s, players are respecting they could play All-star, they were not funny to play all-star game
although the defense was a little bit softer than normal, they were concerning during in game..
(sorry Shaqkobe, and hero3, you don't like Kobe to play seriously in all-star, I don't agree with that)

so I think the econmics blown out in soccer is blown out few years ago.. which is good for the players in future.
see, 4 years ago, some bad GK, football clubs might spend 5 millions to buy it...
but did wealth for that?!
作者: kwongt    時間: 2005-3-11 06:57 PM

好懷念80年代celtic對lakers.....larry bird對magic johnson!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
作者: brightlee    時間: 2005-3-13 05:26 PM

yes, also in 80s, Celtics vs Detroit too...
Celitics vs 76ers
Lakers vs Suns.....
later
Lakers vs Blzers
what a great series in Conference games....
作者: srfqt1    時間: 2005-3-13 05:53 PM

無辦法啦
鬼叫靚仔運動員就可以賺多d錢咩
有技術都冇用
就好似皇馬話Ronaldinho樣衰所以唔買佢
咁樣的事都可以發生的
你話現代的運動員會注重什麼呢??
作者: brightlee    時間: 2005-3-13 05:57 PM

big body... good slam dunk skills (bastketball)
smart.. good lookings for soccer (e.g. Beckham... I am not saying he has that great cross..alright!?) but think it deeply in your heart..... does he worth that amount of money...

*headaches*
my friend looked my 1990s NBA all-star games, they opened their eyes when they watched it...
they finally know the real basketball skills..... could be.. liking that...
作者: srfqt1    時間: 2005-3-13 06:02 PM

你睇ALL-STAR GAME
選出來果D正選就知
可能作為觀眾的自己都有錯啦
始終SUPPLY同DEMAND的關係

[ Last edited by srfqt1 on 2005-3-13 at 06:16 PM ]
作者: brightlee    時間: 2005-3-13 06:14 PM

absoulety!! Totally agree your points of views....
作者: srfqt1    時間: 2005-3-13 06:19 PM

即係好似曼聯的C.RONALDO
佢果D插花擺明就好睇唔好食,簡單D講即係冇用
但是自己又會好鍾意睇佢插花玩野
作者: brightlee    時間: 2005-3-13 06:57 PM

what he's doing nowadays, he could kill his career really soon...
cos every defenders dislike his playing, then slides to him easily
作者: srfqt1    時間: 2005-3-13 07:11 PM

又未必咁嚴重
佢都幾保護自己
而且佢都應該唔算係容易受傷的男人
作者: brightlee    時間: 2005-3-13 07:21 PM

We hope he could be ok...
but what he is doing, it could be frustrating his teammates (including Portugese internation team)
作者: srfqt1    時間: 2005-3-13 07:26 PM

所以要佢浸多一兩年啦
等佢成熟d之後
知道幾時交波,幾時射波,幾時show腳法
到時曼聯先有希望再贏歐聯
始於佢去曼聯之前,得太少經驗
作者: brightlee    時間: 2005-3-13 07:30 PM

yes, I agree what you say
and let's see about how's growing of John O'Shea....
these 2 players, are the future of Man Utd
作者: srfqt1    時間: 2005-3-13 07:35 PM

應該盡快俾個固定位置俾John O'Shea
成日轉位置真係好難去學野
不過我都而家都唔知佢最佳位置係邊
踢CB,驚佢唔夠硬朗
踢SB,又覺得佢速度差D
踢DMF,佢又好像只識防守
作者: brightlee    時間: 2005-3-13 08:18 PM

His DMF skills is good, but you know when you play in DMF, you need to have a lot of leadership skills, but can he? this is the problem...
maybe left/right back is the most situation position for him nowadays.. but no one knows the future.
作者: srfqt1    時間: 2005-3-13 10:10 PM

剩係純DMF,佢係OK
不過曼聯唔係要呢種呢
曼聯要助功助守,有領導才能,差不多可以話係要全能一樣
如果要純DMF,不懂進攻的
曼聯都有好多個
作者: kakueeken    時間: 2005-3-14 12:17 AM

Originally posted by srfqt1 at 2005-3-13 10:10 PM:
剩係純DMF,佢係OK
不過曼聯唔係要呢種呢
曼聯要助功助守,有領導才能,差不多可以話係要全能一樣
如果要純DMF,不懂進攻的
曼聯都有好多個
所以我早前係謝拉特轉會個 post 果到講過,
man utd 應該爭取謝拉特加盟接堅尼班。



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