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作者: 夜行大魂 時間: 2005-5-21 08:47 PM 標題: 大家認為曼聯應放棄或賣走誰來套現呢？

個人覺得是

後衛-施維斯達~原因：冇乜特別功能(如入球力~角球上嚟頭搥)，時常蝦碌，隻右腳太雞，記憶中好幾次在自己禁區內大撻，打中堅俾唔到人安全感。同埋趁佢仲喺國家隊成員，應該賣到高價呢！

[ Last edited by 夜行大魂 on 2005-5-21 at 09:22 PM ]

作者: LMQ 時間: 2005-5-21 08:53 PM

雲佬(門前執雞王,高爾進化版),皇馬肯買肯定執番唔少錢
布朗(敗家仔),有破壞冇建設,犯錯多多

作者: michael86 時間: 2005-5-21 08:59 PM

Originally posted by 夜行大魂 at 2005-5-21 08:47 PM:
個人覺得是
後衛-施維斯達~原因：...

其實你所講既亦都有道理
但係如果睇長遠d黎講曼聯而家既缺點係進攻入球瓣數少...防守反而逐漸成為佢地既優點
施維斯達亦算係曼聯防線既主力之一..球隊防線既默契亦都一季比一季好,經驗路數亦都漸好,相信未來以而家既曼聯球員黎講後防有機會進入黃金期..因為里奧,軒斯,施維,布朗,奧沙等等都當打,有活力..

相信曼聯下屆會補入一D進攻球員,如果到時曼聯既新進攻組合成功既話,後防又因要適應另一D人而唔掂既話咁即係冇分別....所以留多一個施維斯達就算打正選後備都一定有作用,起碼默契都會好過用新人 (當然呢D只係假設性^^)

作者: 夜行大魂 時間: 2005-5-21 09:13 PM

Originally posted by michael86 at 2005-5-21 08:59 PM:

其實你所講既亦都有道理
但係如...

頗有見地呢，謝謝回應

作者: 清揚 時間: 2005-5-21 09:39 PM

最應放棄系領隊『費』柴(費格信)~原因：奪三冠王封爵後自把自為迫走史譚、碧咸,補入的白蘭斯、C7做唔到前兩者做到的工作.買人冇眼光,像迪贊巴、基巴臣、華朗等全都幫不到曼聯偏偏以高價購入,間接令曼聯落得如今田地.冇遠見,像堅尼、傑斯、史高斯等年過三十的球員都要長期以正選上陣,冇諗過培訓接這些老將棒的接班人.
放棄沙夏~養傷重多個打波,唔合乎經濟原則.
賣雲佬~自碧咸走後威力大減,又遲遲未改善其弱項-遠射,以其荷蘭國腳主力的身份在市塲定能貴價出售.
放棄迪贊巴、基巴臣~兩大瘀血,唔適合曼聯

作者: IT14 時間: 2005-5-21 09:40 PM

Originally posted by LMQ at 2005-5-21 08:53 PM:
雲佬(門前執雞王,高爾進化版),皇馬肯買肯定執番唔少錢
布朗(敗家仔),有破壞冇建設,犯錯多多

雲佬係曼聯四大前鋒把握力最好既一個，射術、捕位都係世界級
中場夠供應必有波入，用高爾同雲佬比，簡直無辱雲佬
雲佬今季歐聯入波最多架，傷完三個月無係預備組操香番起，先會無態姐
四大前鋒係都賣smith or 沙夏先啦，有乜理由賣自己最好前鋒俾人架?

作者: IT14 時間: 2005-5-21 09:52 PM

Originally posted by 清揚 at 2005-5-21 09:39 PM:
最應放棄系領隊『費』柴(費格信)~原因...

有錢都無用
費蛇肯放棄史高斯、傑斯必言正選先掂
有料既黎到都要打後備，揾鬼黎曼聯囉!

作者: 清揚 時間: 2005-5-21 09:56 PM

Originally posted by IT14 at 2005-5-21 21:52:

有錢都無用
費蛇肯放棄史高斯、傑斯必言正選先掂
有料既黎到都要打後備，揾鬼黎曼聯囉!

所以咪話炒費蛇law,管理階層一早肯炒佢就乜事都冇,做大事點可以婦人之見架

作者: 夜行大魂 時間: 2005-5-21 10:03 PM

Originally posted by 清揚 at 2005-5-21 09:39 PM:
最應放棄系領隊『費』柴(費格信)~原因...

我都同意放棄老"廢"，原因~私怨賣走史譚，之後又編怪陣4.4.1.1，長期發揮唔到班波，好多收購又唔多掂，唉..........咦？啱啱睇到報紙話"廢"sir續多三年約！！！oh~~

大鑊

作者: wer 時間: 2005-5-21 10:08 PM

Originally posted by 夜行大魂 at 2005-5-21 20:47:
個人覺得是
後衛-施維斯達~原因：...

施維斯達唔識入球,講笑

作者: 清揚 時間: 2005-5-21 10:08 PM

Originally posted by 夜行大魂 at 2005-5-21 22:03:

我都同意放棄老"廢"，原...

仲續約???曼聯就變帕爾瑪架喇

作者: michael86 時間: 2005-5-21 10:09 PM

Originally posted by 夜行大魂 at 2005-5-21 10:03 PM:

我都同意放棄老"廢"，原...

其實大家成日都話迫走史譚...其實史譚係自己搞成咁架...
史譚當年出自傳唱衰隊友..費sir係唔想球隊唔團結先放棄佢架
冇人會擺一個唱衰自己隊友咁衰仔既人o係球隊

作者: LMQ 時間: 2005-5-21 11:28 PM

Originally posted by IT14 at 2005-5-21 09:40 PM:
雲佬係曼聯四大前鋒把握力最好既一個，射術、捕位都係世界級
中場夠供應必有波入，用高爾同雲佬比，簡直無辱雲佬
雲佬今季歐聯入波最多架，傷完三個月無係預備組操香番起，先會無態姐
四大前鋒係都賣smith or 沙夏先啦，有乜理由賣自己最好前鋒俾人架?

獲獲都o係龍門幾碼面前度射空門
你搵我去都得啦
你有邊次見佢o係禁區外射過波??

點計我搵個能夠分波or遠射(亨利果d)既前鋒
總好過要搵個要中場線俾到靚波入禁區先識射得入果d人掛

作者: michael86 時間: 2005-5-21 11:36 PM

Originally posted by LMQ at 2005-5-21 11:28 PM:

獲獲都o係龍門幾碼面前度射空門
你搵我去都得啦
你有邊次見佢o係禁區外射過波??

點計我搵個能夠分波or遠射(亨利果d)既前鋒
總好過要搵個要中場線俾到靚波入禁區先識射得入果d人掛

雲佬top fit既時候禁區可以做到好多下靚動作去就個靚位射波
唔係剩係執死雞

作者: 奇 時間: 2005-5-21 11:40 PM

Originally posted by LMQ at 2005-5-21 11:28 PM:

獲獲都o係龍門幾碼面前度射空門
你搵我去都得啦
你有邊次見佢o係禁區外射過波??

搵你去?你未轉身波都比人偷埋啦

作者: chunhong 時間: 2005-5-22 12:25 AM

呢d野冇得怪班前鋒bo
中埸輸送不足又冇活力
落後就派3-4個前鋒出黎
都吾知又無練過3-4個前鋒ga 模式
踢到不知所謂
買番d中埸改善下
攪番好過進攻模式前鋒自然識入波

作者: cwc_tkd 時間: 2005-5-22 12:46 AM

Originally posted by michael86 at 2005-5-21 11:36 PM:

雲佬top fit既時候禁區可以做到好多下靚動作去就個靚位射波
唔係剩係執死雞

你都識講~top fit
而家呢?
都係tf,
too fat~~

作者: chunhong 時間: 2005-5-22 12:53 AM

Originally posted by cwc_tkd at 2005-5-22 12:46 AM:

你都識講~top fit
而家呢?
都係tf,
too fat~~

傷過出番黎係咁架la~~~
好難話咩既
根本冇輸送點做到咩ar

作者: stereo 時間: 2005-5-22 12:59 AM

Originally posted by 清揚 at 2005-5-21 09:39 PM:
最應放棄系領隊『費』柴(費格信)~原因...

迪贊巴季中去左維拉了

作者: singgeihot 時間: 2005-5-22 02:13 AM

可以嘅話, 放棄咗個充大頭鬼嘅新班主就自然唔駛賣人吐現

作者: Paul_Scholes 時間: 2005-5-22 02:15 AM

我就認為
換走個教練
而個教練要識引入d 有質素ge中場去派牌
咁前鋒就得到供應
入球自然滾滾來

作者: loolxaxc 時間: 2005-5-22 02:54 AM

i dunno who is going 2 b sold, but ferguson is buying Casillas or PSV GK

作者: pc20001103b 時間: 2005-5-22 08:50 AM

費sir買人d方法好舊....
淨係靠佢個brother球探搵
都唔用下d記錄球員資料既程式
賣邊個都好...到最後咪買番d球星or眾所周知既球員...
發掘唔到真正好波既人
c.ron都係係葡萄牙踢比賽巧遇....

作者: cream 時間: 2005-5-22 09:38 AM

According to BBC statistics..
Van Nistrooy has not scored outside the Penalty Box this year!!!
and if you notice, he seldom scored outside PK box anyway..
lack of long shot..
But I think he is probably the best withing six years box
unfortunately Man U dun have people like Beckham
who can deliver a precise cross to 6 yard box anymore
I think the best season Van NIstrooy played was when Beckham was still in Man U...
And both Scholes, Giggs and Keane is in the wrong side of 30..
so maybe should sell some of them...
But I doubt Ferguson will sell his loyal members...

作者: LMQ 時間: 2005-5-22 07:43 PM

Originally posted by michael86 at 2005-5-21 11:36 PM:

雲佬top fit既時候禁區可以做到好多下靚動作去就個靚位射波
唔係剩係執死雞

top fit就係囉
而家呢??

作者: LMQ 時間: 2005-5-22 07:44 PM

Originally posted by 奇 at 2005-5-21 11:40 PM:

搵你去?你未轉身波都比人偷埋啦

射空門有幾難~?
駛乜轉身
求祈o係門前篤一篤已經搞掂~

作者: 亨九利 時間: 2005-5-22 08:08 PM

費Sir.........最冇用係佢!!!

作者: 艾奧羅斯 時間: 2005-5-22 08:56 PM

Originally posted by LMQ at 2005-5-22 07:43 PM:

top fit就係囉
而家呢??

個個人都有起伏,冇可能要求一個球員係足球生涯成世都咁fit!!
佢啱岩傷完,又季尾,係要的時間先操返起!!
同埋佢傷返出黎打國家隊都即有波入!
又會唔會真係曼聯中場有問題呢??!

作者: lookityourself 時間: 2005-5-23 12:13 AM

我覺得應該買個Playmaker！！！！！

作者: lliu 時間: 2005-5-23 05:10 AM

i dun think selling 雲佬 is a solution,
He could be sold for 25million,but who could u buy to replace him??
what United need now is to buy a keeper and a young defensive midfield..
The problem they had was the team is not stable, player comes and go is not good for the team..
Sir Alex need to find his best eleven in the squad, and play them as often as possible.

作者: harvey22 時間: 2005-5-23 07:35 AM

Originally posted by IT14 at 2005-5-21 09:52 PM:

有錢都無用
費蛇肯放棄史高斯、傑斯必言正選先掂
有料既黎到都要打後備，揾鬼黎曼聯囉!

dude i totally disagree with what u said, coz i remember fergerson benched giggs n scholes in fav of fletcher and fortune. 有料既黎到都要打後備, rooney is 有料, thats why when he arrive man u this yr he is always starting!! As for Roy Keane, Giggs, Scholes, alex always rest these guys. i think the youngsters in man u have a lot of chances but they never make use of it!!!!

作者: LMQ 時間: 2005-5-23 12:16 PM

Originally posted by 艾奧羅斯 at 2005-5-22 08:56 PM:

個個人都有起伏,冇可能要求一個球...

所以我咪話囉
如果要有好中場俾波先識搵波去入
咁我點解唔搵個自己有創造能力既前鋒??
唔好話要下下都做到過人斬將,最起碼當中場線班人死火果陣時
唔會搞到o係前面等波踢掛

作者: Asurada129 時間: 2005-5-23 12:22 PM

雲佬...........
放走原因:冇左碧咸長傳俾佢...就開始唔識自己入波...狀況有冇...7成水準都冇....最好趁佢仲有市場價值時賣左佢...攞多d錢...之後買番1個好後防同1個中場(接堅尼棒)....始終曼聯開始多中場入波......前鋒仲有朗尼...阿倫.........故買番d中,後場調整番隊形好過...

作者: IT14 時間: 2005-5-23 01:09 PM

Originally posted by harvey22 at 2005-5-23 07:35 AM:

dude i totally disagree with wh...

I am only talking about the position of 史高斯(amc) and 傑斯(LM), I didn't mention any other position, make no mistake, please!
Do you remember the problem when Veron was playing at MU?
Veron was playing so defensive, because he had to let 史高斯 play the amc
Do you remember Forlan?
When he was playing at MU, he scored 10 goals when 史高斯 injured for a month, but when 史高斯 recovered, Forlan lost his position to 史高斯.

作者: IT14 時間: 2005-5-23 01:18 PM

Originally posted by LMQ at 2005-5-23 12:16 PM:

所以我咪話囉
如果要有好中場俾波...

自己有創造能力既前鋒
除了享利、舒夫真高之外，仲有幾個呀?
况且曼聯都有朗尼啦，有雲尼可以打多番高波，射波把握力又高
ＡＣ都有基斯普拍舒夫真高啦，何况曼聯呢?

中場唔掂，走去賴前鋒入唔到波，好奇怪姐?

作者: lliu 時間: 2005-5-23 02:35 PM

Originally posted by IT14 at 2005-5-23 01:18 PM:

自己有創造能力既前鋒
除了享利...

I agree with u...Where can u find a replacement for Ruud??
he has been the club's top scorer for the past few season
Sir Alex has already made a mistake by selling Beckham,
He will not sell Ruud, coz he need to stable his team now.

作者: LMQ 時間: 2005-5-23 02:39 PM

Originally posted by IT14 at 2005-5-23 01:18 PM:
自己有創造能力既前鋒
除了享利、舒夫真高之外，仲有幾個呀?
况且曼聯都有朗尼啦，有雲尼可以打多番高波，射波把握力又高
ＡＣ都有基斯普拍舒夫真高啦，何况曼聯呢?

中場唔掂，走去賴前鋒入唔到波，好奇怪姐?

多的是啦
朗拿度,朗拿甸奴(可以打輔鋒),卡卡(可以打輔鋒),韋利,列高巴,沙維奧拿等等
雖則話雲佬夠高,但係我一d都唔覺高空波佢有d咩優勢o係度
同埋你有幾可見過佢返後半場搶波攞波?
好聽d就等機會,唔好聽就等運到

你話AC,中場線係俾到波,但係都要基斯普有能力過到人先得架
同埋最起碼有d速度放下
但係雲佬,速度已經欠奉,俾到個波佢又淨係識"得"住個位,跟住傳過隔離或者傳後,然後自己又係咁走去龍門前面等人俾波佢先識入波(可能曼聯既戰術係咁,但係真係毫無建樹可言)
佢遠射已經唔掂,以前都話有碧咸俾到靚波佢,所以佢先入到咁多波,一變冇中場俾到波就已經死哂咁滯...

以前佢都係我偶像黎~不過呢年對佢印象真係差哂
個人覺得佢應該轉變下佢既踢法,唔好獨孤一味淨係識咁樣俾波射波,或者可以提升番我對佢既信心~

[ Last edited by LMQ on 2005-5-23 at 02:50 PM ]

作者: 800 時間: 2005-5-23 02:43 PM

賣走朗尼,傑斯,史高斯,堅尼,沙夏
等阿倫史密史可以正選上陣

作者: IT14 時間: 2005-5-23 02:56 PM

Originally posted by LMQ at 2005-5-23 02:39 PM:

多的是啦
朗拿度,朗拿甸奴(可以打...

朗拿度,沙維奧拿
打英超一撞就散，朗拿度好有機斷腳
列高巴
狀態好唔穩定，又係打英超一撞就散
朗拿甸奴(可以打輔鋒),卡卡(可以打輔鋒)
佢地唔係前鋒，ＡＣ，巴塞有可能放咩?
韋利
走緊下坡，跌watt嚴重喎，又韋利可自己創造機會?

英超咁難適應，雷耶斯都想走，基斯普都打唔掂
難得係雲尼係英超適應到，放佢走?

你睇下呢幾場，雲尼已经多左出禁區同朗尼互傳咁
曼聯都係下半季先轉打4-3-3
朗尼，傑斯，Ｃ朗打順哂，雲尼先傷完出黎打
佢打開4-4-1-1，你都要俾時間佢適應新打法架
而且沙夏，史密夫打4-3-3都唔見有乜波入姐

[ Last edited by IT14 on 2005-5-23 at 03:07 PM ]

作者: LMQ 時間: 2005-5-23 03:02 PM

Originally posted by IT14 at 2005-5-23 02:56 PM:

朗拿度,沙維奧拿
打英超一撞就...

我覺得奧雲係個唔錯既選擇~

不過最緊要皇馬肯放人~

或者我咁講啦,俾佢適應到又有乜野用?而家每隊基本上有1-2名球員專mark佢(緊町果隻)
佢唔變下佢踢法,咪搞到隊隊都可以咁樣搞掂左佢囉(入到波果d真係叫好彩)

補充下,雷耶斯係因為佢條女問題先搞到佢想走,唔係佢踢唔掂
基斯普係因為車仔太多人,搞到佢要變後備,而家o係AC愈踢愈好,梗係想走啦

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作者: 奇 時間: 2005-5-23 05:24 PM

Originally posted by LMQ at 2005-5-22 07:43 PM:

top fit就係囉
而家呢??

咁買左個你認為合適的球員,佢又長期狀態差,你係咪又賣呀?咁搞法多多球員都唔夠你用

作者: 奇 時間: 2005-5-23 05:37 PM

Originally posted by LMQ at 2005-5-22 07:44 PM:

射空門有幾難~?
駛乜轉身
求祈o係門前篤一篤已經搞掂~

我所講的當然不是射空門的情況(我也不信你運氣好到下下有雞執

)
起碼身為一名前鋒,你只擁有他執雞的本事,還想曼聯買你?笑話

你真係當佢執雞成名架?....唔知你有無睇過之前d比賽...1扭4射入,車身射入...
執雞入球多就=佢只懂射空門???

作者: LMQ 時間: 2005-5-23 07:35 PM

Originally posted by 奇 at 2005-5-23 05:37 PM:
我所講的當然不是射空門的情況(我也不信你運氣好到下下有雞執)
起碼身為一名前鋒,你只擁有他執雞的本事,還想曼聯買你?笑話
你真係當佢執雞成名架?....唔知你有無睇過之前d比賽...1扭4射入,車身射入...
執雞入球多就=佢只懂射空門???

但係真係隨左見佢o係門前篤一篤,我完全唔覺佢有d咩遠射可言
更何況你話一扭(呢個字你點打架??@@)4,同佢o係門前撞入既比例你估係幾多??

執雞入球多就=佢只懂射空門<--呢樣野我都唔同意
但係佢而家俾我既感覺就係隨左o係門前撞射
我完全唔覺佢可以識入波

試問咁樣又同高爾有乜分別,勉強只可以講話轉身快,"得"位勁之類既野

作者: srfqt1 時間: 2005-5-23 08:13 PM

Originally posted by LMQ at 2005-5-23 07:35 PM:
但係真係隨左見佢o係門前篤一篤,我完全唔覺佢有d咩遠射可言
更何況你話一扭(呢個字你點打架??@@)4,同佢o係門前撞入既比例你估係幾多??

執雞入球多就=佢只懂射空門<--呢樣野我都唔同意
但係佢而家俾我既感覺就係隨左o係門前撞射
我完全唔覺佢可以識入波
試問咁樣又同高爾有乜分別,勉強只可以講話轉身快,"得"位勁之類既野

門前篤一篤-->之前d走位唔靚點樣可以有個正位可以門前篤一篤
你估d後衛死架,任佢企係龍門前一碼踢佢波入去呀
佢唔係攝位快,搶咁靚位有咁多easy shoot

你以為龍門口d rebound咁易執呀

                  冇射手的反應同本能點執,個波經過你個身都冇反應呀
隨左o係門前撞射-->>唔該你睇下面D 片先講啦
                           (轉貼自其他EF版友)
                           你有冇睇過佢對FULHAM一扭幾呀
                           對NEWCASTLE係禁區外LOOP GIVEN呀
                           佢的確球技,腳下功夫係唔算勁，
                           但係作為一位前鋒既入球工作，
                           真係真係處理得非常之好
                           絕對能夠把握係禁區的機會
                           佢既驚人入球紀錄已經係最好的EVIDENCE

總有呀!你估而家打籃球呀.有三分波呀!
龍門前一碼入波又係計一分
離龍門五十碼入波又係計一分

而且你成日淨係識講我都得我都得
請問你踢緊邊隊職業球隊呀
你講到自己咁勁實係香港既未來希望啦

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作者: llkksej15 時間: 2005-5-23 11:01 PM

睇完小保加嗰球.....見到veron.......有啲miss him

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