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標題: 姚明今年能在數劇上超越O'neal嗎？ [打印本頁]
作者: 甘國武    時間: 2005-10-30 10:57 PM     標題: 姚明今年能在數劇上超越O'neal嗎？

O'neal近三年平均是：
02~03 27.5p+11.5r
03~04 21.5p+11.0r
04~05 23.0p+10.5r
03~04還可以是因F4平分了數據，但04~05就證他己走下坡
由02~03和04~05的數據推斷，O'neal在05~06的數據會是：
19.5p+10.0r

姚明上年平均是18.5p+8.5r，比前年上升1p
而他自己又放話今年進步會大些少
我們就信他一次吧，估計05~06的數據會是：
20.5p+9.5r
作者: jiese    時間: 2005-10-30 11:03 PM

我想ONEAL会好一点.
但是YAO MING如果拿20-10的话
there is no more argument who's second best center in the NBA.
作者: shaqkobe    時間: 2005-10-30 11:08 PM

一方面O'neal已走下波，另一方面又多左好多得分上既幫手。分數應會再次下調，加上佢上季常規賽得到季尾傷患的影響，今年吸引經驗之後應會盡可能更留力。所以分數據很大可能再降。。
至於yao仍在進步當中，如果佢未到底，數據會有上升是理所當然的事情，能力佢係有，不過最有問題係狀態上，坦白講7尺5寸，佢係咁跳投邊有得防守架，如果狀態好得分會更上升，不過籃板就難D，一向都唔係小強人強項，要再有進步就真係睇佢係唔係如佢所言，以新風格視人啦。
作者: YUEN_LOUIS    時間: 2005-10-30 11:09 PM

奧尼爾始終經驗好d~
姚明短期都好難係整體上比得上
作者: shaqkobe    時間: 2005-10-30 11:14 PM

Originally posted by YUEN_LOUIS at 2005-10-30 23:09:
奧尼爾始終經驗好d~
姚明短期都好難係整體上比得上
如果講整体球賽影響力就係既。。。。我林O'neal過多兩年都仲會係全世界最有影響力既中鋒。不過講到個人數據，一定會隨年齡同球隊中身份下降。Yao後生實會搏盡，唔通等老先黎搏咩？哈哈。所以如果Yao仲有發展空間，應該會再得到提升。
作者: night    時間: 2005-10-30 11:15 PM

應該未得掛....
不過可能遲早既事
作者: YUEN_LOUIS    時間: 2005-10-30 11:15 PM

Originally posted by shaqkobe at 2005-10-30 11:14 PM:

如果講整体球賽影響力就係既。。。...
奧尼爾會一邊下降
姚明係另一邊上升
作者: Chenjinnan    時間: 2005-10-30 11:18 PM

Block 姚明點都追唔到
作者: 甘國武    時間: 2005-10-30 11:23 PM

Originally posted by jiese at 2005-10-30 11:03 PM:
我想ONEAL会好一点.
但是YAO MING如果拿20-10的话
there is no more argument who's second best center in the NBA.
一定有argument！
因為要睇你當唔當Duncan係中鋒
作者: shaqkobe    時間: 2005-10-30 11:23 PM

Originally posted by YUEN_LOUIS at 2005-10-30 23:15:

奧尼爾會一邊下降
姚明係另一邊上升
呢個係一個自然法則。。奧尼爾實會降，睇佢可以再係第一幾耐。個人認為如果無大傷患既話來季都仲係最強既中鋒吧。
至於住後究竟係唔係由yao取替世界第一中鋒美譽，就仲係未知之數，始終亞洲人体質總係蝕底D，上到最高都唔知可以威到幾耐。。不過依家襯住小斯有傷患，加上其他中鋒又未見突出，姚明會係最佳人選。
作者: shaqkobe    時間: 2005-10-30 11:24 PM

Originally posted by Chenjinnan at 2005-10-30 23:18:
Block 姚明點都追唔到
唔知點解。亞洲球員既封波水平係差D，永遠同身高唔成正比。
作者: YUEN_LOUIS    時間: 2005-10-30 11:25 PM

Originally posted by shaqkobe at 2005-10-30 11:23 PM:

呢個係一個自然法則。。奧尼爾實會...
姚明~做亞洲第一就ok~
世界...要下d苦功啦
作者: shaqkobe    時間: 2005-10-30 11:27 PM

Originally posted by YUEN_LOUIS at 2005-10-30 23:25:

姚明~做亞洲第一就ok~
世界...要下d苦功啦
亞洲第一，佢做緊架喎。
作者: YUEN_LOUIS    時間: 2005-10-30 11:29 PM

Originally posted by shaqkobe at 2005-10-30 11:27 PM:

亞洲第一，佢做緊架喎。
所以咪話佢ok囉!
作者: 甘國武    時間: 2005-10-30 11:35 PM

Originally posted by YUEN_LOUIS at 2005-10-30 11:25 PM:

姚明~做亞洲第一就ok~
世界...要下d苦功啦
如果姚明都做到世界第一中鋒
某程度來講，是證明中鋒發展既衰落...
作者: shaqkobe    時間: 2005-10-30 11:45 PM

Originally posted by 甘國武 at 2005-10-30 23:35:

如果姚明都做到世界第一中鋒
某程度來講，是證明中鋒發展既衰落...
aR~講得好喎。。
作者: joe159357    時間: 2005-10-31 12:18 AM

Originally posted by 甘國武 at 2005-10-30 11:35 PM:

如果姚明都做到世界第一中鋒
某程度來講，是證明中鋒發展既衰落...
事就係中鋒發展根本就係已經衰落
作者: bigfish    時間: 2005-10-31 04:33 AM

姚明跟本跳唔高, 你睇佢上年俾史韋夫特封到, 又俾佢o係頭頂雙手入樽就知啦
作者: F.king    時間: 2005-10-31 06:36 AM

Originally posted by shaqkobe at 2005-10-30 11:24 PM:

唔知點解。亞洲球員既封波水平係差D，永遠同身高唔成正比。
because blocking is depend on explosive force of jump
(i mean in NBA. Of course height is also important, but I want to compare Yao with other forwards and centers)
you can see how yao defense,
when someone is lay-up in front of yao
yao could only jump upward, because Yao can't even jump high and powerful.
And then they will be body contact before yao touches the ball
Finally, yao gets only fouls when he tries to block or defense lay-up

If you see Duncon or KG blocking, they always jump after they see (or I should say feel and know) their opponents jump
and they always jump to the side of the opponents but not the front (they could do it because they have explosive force)
therefore, they don't get as many as fouls of Yao in defense

also, they can stay in the air longer than Yao so they have bigger possibilities to block


In my opinion,
Yao is only good in offense but not defense
if he can't make himself to jump better (higher, quicker, and more powerful)
he only gets more fouls even though he improve his skills.

and this year, Yao can't be better than O'neal in statistic
because his defense is worse than O'neal too much (I don't think he can improve that much in summer)
also, his offense is not better than O'neal
Only shooting must be better than O'neal
what I hope is that Yao can get more rebounds than O'neal this season
作者: shaqkobe    時間: 2005-10-31 05:05 PM

Originally posted by F.king at 2005-10-31 06:36:


because blocking is depend on e...
詳盡既評論+3
作者: shaqkobe    時間: 2005-10-31 05:12 PM

Originally posted by joe159357 at 2005-10-31 00:18:

事就係中鋒發展根本就係已經衰落
最大問題都係無人才者。唔同其他位，尤其小前鋒，依家小前鋒人才可以話有D泛瀾，而且又小成為球隊中心。所以依家小前鋒球員都幾慘，選秀成日都無人揀。。
作者: Chenjinnan    時間: 2005-10-31 06:37 PM

冇錯，中鋒 (就算唔勁，有番咁上下嗰 D ) 每隊都要兩個~~~

用 PF 打 C，又唔係個個 PF 都得

但 SF，用 SG，PF，甚至 PG 都得 (唔計 5 呎幾個 D )



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