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作者: Lap Hui 時間: 2005-11-17 12:03 PM 標題: 今年 NBA 傳統弱隊不再積弱, 有個好開始~

Cleveland 6 W 2 L
Washington 5 W 2 L
LA Clippers 6 W 2 L
Golden State 5 W 3 L
Memphis 6 W 3 L

反而強隊就強差人意, Suns , Seattle, Lakers, Kings

作者: 樂壇渣Fit人 時間: 2005-11-17 12:15 PM

咁咪同英超一樣?!!
咁咪仲好
唔駛睇死幾隊
多d選擇嘛^^

作者: My heart will g 時間: 2005-11-17 12:16 PM

suns without Amare Stoudmire jei...
when he comes back, its ALL OVER!!!!

作者: kantang4910 時間: 2005-11-17 01:04 PM

Originally posted by 樂壇渣Fit人 at 2005-11-17 12:15 PM:
咁咪同英超一樣?!!
咁咪仲好
唔駛睇死幾隊
多d選擇嘛^^

最後又係馬剌對活塞或熱火(但馬剌很奇怪.二十年來唯一無冧莊的冠軍)

作者: 樂壇渣Fit人 時間: 2005-11-17 01:10 PM

Originally posted by kantang4910 at 2005-11-17 13:04:

最後又係馬剌對活塞或熱火(但馬剌很奇怪.二十年來唯一無冧莊的冠軍)

今年可能有機會
因為目前黎睇, 無乜野強隊可以突圍與其一搏
(小弟愚見, 不喜勿插

)

作者: brightlee 時間: 2005-11-17 01:42 PM

Originally posted by 樂壇渣Fit人 at 2005-11-17 15:10:

今年可能有機會
因為目前黎睇, 無乜野強隊可以突圍與其一搏
(小弟愚見, 不喜勿插)

if that's no injury pluged for any spurs players.................

作者: Dicksonheng 時間: 2005-11-17 01:44 PM

Originally posted by brightlee at 2005-11-17 01:42 PM:

if that's no injury pluged for any spurs players.................

就算有, 佢地後備陣容都係聯盟最勁啦!

作者: Chenjinnan 時間: 2005-11-17 02:17 PM

It's also very interesting to look at Cost vs. Ranking...

Team Salaries:
http://www.hoopshype.com/salaries.htm

作者: shaqkobe 時間: 2005-11-17 03:17 PM

其實今年好多強球既季初表現都好不穩，講到最穩定既係東岸活塞、西岸馬刺。其實強隊都有唔少比賽應贏既就輸左。(好似熱火、太陽、火箭………都先後受到主將受傷既影響)。。所以弱隊就有機會突圍。
另外好似快艇咁，睇佢依家全西岸第一，事實上佢贏既對手只係一般既中流球隊。
更何況係騎士、巫師…………根本上今屆既實力就增強左好多，勇士又係上年季尾已見有起色，加上佢地季初既道路都算易行。所以成績這般好。
不過坦白講，今年各隊既實力又真係拉近左，尤其係東西岸既距離愈來愈接近！今季東西岸對決既比賽，雙方得勝率很接近。這對nba來說係一件好事黎。

作者: shaqkobe 時間: 2005-11-17 03:18 PM

Originally posted by Chenjinnan at 2005-11-17 14:17:
It's also very interesting to look at Cost vs. Ranking...

Team Salaries:
http://www.hoopshype.com/salaries.htm

好分享。

作者: shaqkobe 時間: 2005-11-17 03:19 PM

e~原來熱火唔係好高咋喎。

作者: feeon 時間: 2005-11-17 04:24 PM

I can't believe the team salary of Pistons is just slightly over the Raptors.....Joe Dumars has done a great job!

作者: Chenjinnan 時間: 2005-11-17 04:48 PM

My favourite - NJN, performance is also unstable. Unstable defense, unstable offense. Hopefully they can maintain stable health, and after "run in", their performance can live up to expectation.

作者: feeon 時間: 2005-11-17 04:52 PM

Yes...hopefully the Nets's trio can stay healthy for whole season and challenge the title...I wish Kidd could earn a ring

作者: Chenjinnan 時間: 2005-11-17 04:53 PM

Originally posted by shaqkobe at 2005-11-17 03:18 PM:

好分享。

Hehe thanks. I love to watch players' salaries. There are really exist players whom are overpaid/underpaid...

Especially Grant Hill, he is my idol in the prospect of working --- no need to work but high salary!

作者: Chenjinnan 時間: 2005-11-17 04:56 PM

Originally posted by feeon at 2005-11-17 04:52 PM:
Yes...hopefully the Nets's trio can stay healthy for whole season and challenge the title...I wish Kidd could earn a ring

Sigh... my favourites always failed. First was Charles Barkley, now is Jason Kidd...

作者: wer 時間: 2005-11-17 04:57 PM

Originally posted by Lap Hui at 2005-11-17 12:03:
Cleveland 6 W 2 L
Washington 5 W 2 L
LA Clippers 6 W 2 L
Golden State 5 W 3 L
Memphis 6 W 3 L

反而強隊就強差人意, Suns , Seattle, Lakers, Kings

Washington,Cleveland算 NBA 傳統弱隊?

作者: shaqkobe 時間: 2005-11-17 05:21 PM

Originally posted by feeon at 2005-11-17 16:24:
I can't believe the team salary of Pistons is just slightly over the Raptors.....Joe Dumars has done a great job!

之前仲低呀。近排同球員續左新約先高左咋。下季應該會再高D

[ Last edited by shaqkobe on 2005-11-17 at 05:26 PM ]

作者: brightlee 時間: 2005-11-17 05:24 PM

Originally posted by Chenjinnan at 2005-11-17 18:53:

Hehe thanks. I love to watch pl...

He should NOT play for the playoff in 1999 @Pistons...

then he got seriously injury.....

作者: brightlee 時間: 2005-11-17 05:26 PM

Originally posted by Dicksonheng at 2005-11-17 15:44:

就算有, 佢地後備陣容都係聯盟最勁啦!

But when you see M. Finley and B. Barry are injured now.
Spurs is inconsistence....

作者: brightlee 時間: 2005-11-17 05:28 PM

Originally posted by wer at 2005-11-17 18:57:

Washington,Cleveland算 NBA 傳統弱隊?

Cleveland was strong in 90s

Washington was strong in late 70s, early 80s

Please don't think the team with C. Webber, M Price, J Howard was strong in Washington in 95-97..........

作者: shaqkobe 時間: 2005-11-17 05:32 PM

Originally posted by brightlee at 2005-11-17 17:26:

But when you see M. Finley and B. Barry are injured now.
Spurs is inconsistence....

我都係咁睇。傷患會係馬刺最大既敵人。隊波裡面老人家太多。
荷利35、保雲34、雲艾素33、白蘭治33、芬尼32佢地既健康真係要好好保護。至於鄧肯腳傷更加係馬剌既最不穩定因素。而且馬剌隊有一個長久以來既問題都無解決到，就係佢地成日會突然在第四節熄火，好多時拋離對手之後都被人後上反勝或者做成威脅。馬剌今年要衛冕，呢兩個問題都唔可以忽視。

作者: brightlee 時間: 2005-11-17 05:41 PM

Originally posted by shaqkobe at 2005-11-17 19:32:

我都係咁睇。傷患會係馬刺最大既敵...

I watched the game for Cavs vs Spurs
they were leading by nearly 30 points around 4 qua..
but they couldn't shoot .......... even they have B Barry, Van Exel and Michael Finley were on the floor, lucky Cavs was cold on that day and they couldn't shoot any wide open shoot.........

that's why Spurs could be beaten........

see, they lost at least one match in season (at this stage)
so Spurs could be beaten.....

作者: peter仔 時間: 2005-11-17 06:51 PM

我覺得76人同巫師都勁左好多

作者: brightlee 時間: 2005-11-17 07:01 PM

Originally posted by peter仔 at 2005-11-17 20:51:
我覺得76人同巫師都勁左好多

76ers,
you should thanks for Maurice Cheeks.....

Now, you know how good he is, right?!

作者: nashisthebestpg 時間: 2005-11-17 08:47 PM

Originally posted by shaqkobe at 2005-11-17 05:32 PM:

我都係咁睇。傷患會係馬刺最大既敵...

不過呢d老人家全部都係bench,而保雲一向都無乜傷,
最緊要係鐵三角全部屬當打年齡,只要呢三個人無事,
配合大約4個後備(季後賽上面d人唔會全部傷晒掛

),係西岸都夠殺晒啦~
只於熄火問題,馬刺係上一年巳經大有改善,今年個問題都不大掛~

我諗今季只有活塞同熱火係馬刺對手,而活塞機會大d,
我覺得活塞ge正選係全nba最勁(進攻+防守),雖然後備稍遜於馬刺,
但佢地ge韌力同團體合作我覺得仲好過馬刺,今年真希望佢地可以左拎冠軍~

[ Last edited by nashisthebestpg on 2005-11-17 at 08:56 PM ]

作者: herothree 時間: 2005-11-18 01:00 AM

Originally posted by wer at 2005-11-17 03:57 AM:

Washington,Cleveland算 NBA 傳統弱隊?

umm....
of coz...
they used to suck like crap

well...depends on when u started to watch them
if u started just like 2, 3 years ago...then of coz...they dont' suck

wizzard/bullet, cleveland (old logo), LA clippers, Vancover Gizz. (haha) are the losing teams for yrs

of coz then added the toronto raps after carter's relationship gone sour, and the MJ less bulls

well...i guess the only team that STILL suck...is only toronto raps

when will they win their first game lei???

1-10???
1-20???
sigh...
1-81???

shame to live in a carter-less toronto

作者: YingTung 時間: 2005-11-18 01:19 AM

一直覺得最唔好睇既波係馬刺，唔係因為我唔鐘意睇防守波，而係佢地無論係打波既節奏，同戰術都係一個宇”拖”，而且一ｏ的激情都無...
最愛球隊一定係勇士同金塊，多快攻、節奏明快。
不過講緊湊一定係睇火箭喇～哈～
因為CCTV5經常播，返工就朝朝早睇。次次見佢地拎住十幾分ｏ係手，第四節一定俾人追返哂仲反超～～ｏｒ落後十幾分，最尾追返上黎．．．勁好睇．．睇到一額汗...

作者: shaqkobe 時間: 2005-11-18 09:53 PM

Originally posted by YingTung at 2005-11-18 01:19:
一直覺得最唔好睇既波係馬刺，唔係因...

咁亦都證明到火箭係有實力既球隊，不過就好不穩定。。。原因係佢地有富有天份既球員，不過球隊中無明顯的領袖。坦白講，我唔認為今日既T-mac係一個出色既球隊領導者，佢同KG、KB……一樣，無疑佢地自己富有很強的個人能力，係聯盟中係最頂尖既球員，不過佢唔可以有效地令其他球員有更好既發揮。至於姚明NBA資歷尚淺加上，加上性格內向，亦不見是球隊領袖的材料。至於一班老將又未有特別有球隊領軍的經驗，大多是一群二線的球員，發引力不強。所以難免火箭在球員領袖的角色上仍未有解決。。。。加上同馬剌情況一樣，隊中成班老年球員(比馬剌更嚴重)，所以表現亦都非常講狀態。。。好似莫湯保咁，一場可以有出色保守之餘還有進攻能耐，不過總是一下子的表現，很快便打回原形。其他年長球員如蘇拿、衛斯尼、莊巴利………都係一樣。。

作者: nashisthebestpg 時間: 2005-11-19 01:53 AM

Originally posted by YingTung at 2005-11-18 01:19 AM:
一直覺得最唔好睇既波係馬刺，唔係因為我唔鐘意睇防守波，而係佢地無論係打波既節奏，同戰術都係一個宇”拖”，而且一ｏ的激情都無...
最愛球隊一定係勇士同金塊，多快攻、節奏明快。
不過講緊湊一定係睇火箭喇～哈～
因為CCTV5經常播，返工就朝朝早睇。次次見佢地拎住十幾分ｏ係手，第四節一定俾人追返哂仲反超～～ｏｒ落後十幾分，最尾追返上黎．．．勁好睇．．睇到一額汗...

一d激情都無?唔係掛,剩係睇parker同gino d 鏟籃都夠high啦~
你話打波既節奏，同戰術都係一個宇”拖”, 佢上年對太陽一樣可以鬥快,鬥攻,
仲嬴埋bo~對活塞時就打陣地戰多,由鄧肯內線打起,帶起成隊外圍投射,
馬刺win活塞ge一個大分野就係佢地的三分比活塞好得多~
證明佢地可快可慢~

勇士波我無乜睇,無得講,但同金塊比我都覺得馬刺波好睇d~
無錯,金塊打快攻勁,miller仲成日交到俾走back door ge球員拆你屋,
但佢地的外圍唔好,進攻唔夠全面,
睇馬刺,佢地ge轉邊好,個波好少俾一個球員帶死,防守又可以睇到
馬刺的團體防守,佢地的協防好好,又有bowen係到,睇佢今日貼身防守t-mac,
真係令t-mac無淡好食~

作者: 藍 時間: 2005-11-19 02:03 AM

今年的而且確係實力接近左好多
騎士,籃網,七六,魔術,雄鹿既主力陣容完全係一流班子,強隊大部份依然強隊,甘仲好,好睇好多
不過始終nba同足球吾同,打82場,宜家先打左六七場,十分一都未到,會吾會係虛火,仲係言之尚早

作者: shaqkobe 時間: 2005-11-19 02:37 AM

Originally posted by 藍 at 2005-11-19 02:03:
今年的而且確係實力接近左好多
騎士,...

講得岩呀。仲有nba始終都係季後賽先至係所有，任你常規賽點好，入到季後賽先考真至既球隊能力。係常規賽就算係鷹隊都有可能執你馬刺、活塞一場半場，不過入到季後賽由於雙方既對戰連住一場又一場，要爆冷既機會更加少。始終常規賽不同既球隊有唔同既賽程，就舉例好似体力應付你打back to back點都無人地抖足晒等你黎咁好啦。或者可能連續作客4、5場………所以始終有唔公平之處。弱隊係常規賽仲有機會偷到雞，不過入到季後賽想偷雞就難得多啦。就算俾你偷雞過度一輪，下一輪又會唔會咁好彩。

作者: 甘國武 時間: 2005-11-19 12:18 PM

Originally posted by nashisthebestpg at 2005-11-19 01:53 AM:

一d激情都無?唔係掛,剩係睇parker同...

係羅，剩係射球show、快攻show......都唔知有咩好睇～

作者: kinis 時間: 2005-11-21 10:28 AM

呢個現象好自然, 弱球隊用幾年至十年黎重建, 不斷嘗試唔同方式去爭取勝利, 所以話傳統勁旅, 只不過可以用 7 至 10 年作單位。 10 年前公牛, 紐約, 係傳統勁旅, 今日只能做陪跑, 而當時o既小牛, 木狼, 今日幾勁同受歡迎(仲記得10年前睇波同D friends 一齊笑小牛連個名都俾公牛食住), 所以NBA最弱果D隊有機會揀新人先係好正o既一環, 令NBA 有風起雲湧同新鮮感。

作者: Chenjinnan 時間: 2005-11-21 11:59 AM

還有一個重要因素，就是季中的球員交易，V. Carter 就是去年的球員交易才番生，而今年雖然有 Amnesty Rule，用 $ 自由度大了，但很多球隊仍然未能交易得心頭好 (如 Nets 仍然想搵個 low post 人才)，又或者季初看似好完整但打落又唔係好夾，相信季中的球員交易會很精彩。

作者: brightlee 時間: 2005-11-21 08:35 PM

Originally posted by kinis at 2005-11-21 12:28:
呢個現象好自然, 弱球隊用幾年至十年...

Remember on 91-92 season,
Dallas was 11-71?
next year, 13-69?
and in Dever on 97-98,
they were 11-71???

This is called NBA!!!
got it?!

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