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作者: Dicksonheng 時間: 2005-12-31 03:08 PM 標題: 活塞能否挑戰公牛常規賽紀錄?

12月 31日星期六 03:30 更新
活塞挑戰公牛紀錄

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(星島日報報道)東岸衛冕冠軍活塞昨天憑在關鍵時刻的穩健演出，主場以一百零六比一百零一擊退上屆東岸決賽的手下敗將熱火，連贏第九場。目前得勝率接近九成的活塞，倘若能延續季初的氣勢，有力挑戰「公牛王朝」在九六年創下的NBA歷來最佳常規賽紀錄。

廣　告

　　活塞與熱火在這場上屆東岸決賽「翻版」的最後兩分鐘打成九十九平手，但標立斯、華萊士與賓華萊士隨即聯手為活塞發動一輪七比○的攻勢，一舉奠定勝局。取得全隊最高三十分的標立斯認為，活塞今仗勝在默契較好。

　　以每場八點六次助攻排NBA第三位的標立斯指出︰「上季贏接近六十場的熱火今季變陣，明顯衝我們而來。我們這個班底一起度過了無數難關，總有人在決勝時刻起關鍵作用，不會這麼容易動搖。」

　　取得廿四勝三負的活塞與在九五至九六年球季創下NBA第二佳開季紀錄的的公牛並駕齊驅。若能保持目前的八成九得勝率，活塞將會以一場之差打破公牛在九六年創下的NBA單季最佳戰績。不過，標立斯則認為談破紀錄是言之尚早︰「我們隊內完全沒有提起這件事，假如我們在三、四月還能保持這種氣勢，到時才談破紀錄吧。」

　　NBA最佳廿七場紀錄保持者為六六至六七年的76人及六九至七○年的紐約人，兩隊都在季初取得廿五勝二負。

我認為只要沒有傷兵問題,是有機會的. 始終活塞才是nba總冠軍大熱
活塞: 24-3
紀錄: 72-10

[ Last edited by Dicksonheng on 2005-12-31 at 03:34 PM ]

作者: Dicksonheng 時間: 2005-12-31 03:22 PM

舊紀錄: 72-10
95-96年紀錄by the Bulls
http://www.nba.com/history/season/19951996.html
如有錯誤歡迎指正

作者: Dicksonheng 時間: 2005-12-31 03:26 PM

馬刺都唔夠活塞打
溜馬無阿達斯暫難成氣候
太陽外線默契尚待磨合,a.史杜達米亞下半季狀態成疑
熱火己證明無teamwork,今季仲未夠班,o'neal己無以前籃底控場力
活塞, 最大的對手可能就是自己----傷患

再補充現時活塞 : 24-3

[ Last edited by Dicksonheng on 2005-12-31 at 03:28 PM ]

作者: nashisthebestpg 時間: 2005-12-31 07:06 PM

雖然都想活塞破record,
但感覺上都幾難......畢竟要keep住呢個氣勢成季都幾難~
上年太陽都好似打到31勝4負,but一傷個nash就即刻無......
所以最重要就係一個正選都唔可以傷....活塞的後備力量唔算好....

另外,話馬刺唔夠打都好難講, 上次gino無出.....
gino對馬刺的作用好大呢, 尤其對住活塞, 無左gino的切入同分球差好遠.....
況且馬刺多數開季都較慢熱,始終季後賽先係佢地ge戰場......

作者: harvey22 時間: 2006-1-1 01:30 AM

i think they have a chance at doing it!
but they won't coz pistone is not that kind of team.
they rather save rest there players at the end of season to stay fresh in playoffs

作者: 藍 時間: 2006-1-1 02:28 AM

剩低55場,只可以輸六場,emem,有難度,但並非無可能,怕就怕有傷兵,同埋我記得好似上季活塞試過有一小段時間勁沉,想破紀錄,一定吾可以

作者: nashisthebestpg 時間: 2006-1-1 07:21 AM

yesterday先講完,
今日就輸左俾騎士lu............billups 同王子今日打得差.......
成隊piston無人mark 到大帝........

作者: shoot_the_girls 時間: 2006-1-1 09:38 AM

輸1,2 埸反而仲好咁喎.

作者: nashisthebestpg 時間: 2006-1-1 10:01 AM

Originally posted by shoot_the_girls at 2006-1-1 09:38 AM:
輸1,2 埸反而仲好咁喎.

係wo,
而家d新聞講話可唔可以挑戰公牛record,
可能會俾到d無形壓力佢地~
輸1,2場無乜所謂,俾佢回下氣,以今季戰績黎睇,
一場的敗仗可能係另一連勝ge序幕呢~

作者: 甘國武 時間: 2006-1-1 12:55 PM

Originally posted by nashisthebestpg at 2006-1-1 10:01 AM:

係wo,
而家d新聞講話可唔可以挑戰...

.....
我要封你做 "軚王" la~

作者: nashisthebestpg 時間: 2006-1-1 01:09 PM

Originally posted by 甘國武 at 2006-1-1 12:55 PM:

.....
我要封你做 "軚王" la~

咩叫軚王.............
話我轉軚快?

[ Last edited by nashisthebestpg on 2006-1-1 at 01:18 PM ]

作者: shaqkobe 時間: 2006-1-1 02:43 PM

失敗居多。。。其實活塞上半季既比賽算係易打。好多球隊依家已經打左三十幾場，不過佢地剩係27場(計埋今日28)。者係話佢地上半季既休息係充裕D(頭兩個月打28場{一個月14場}，後3個半月打60場{一個月加到成17-18場})，打back to back又會增加，而且開季初段既對手既實力唔係真係好勁。不過近排開始就已經硬仗連連。所以要破公牛既紀錄真係唔易。一季87.8既得勝率真係太恐怖啦。NBA依家既形勢活塞如果最後做到7成尾8成頭既成績，已經係好"神"。

作者: skjeiw 時間: 2006-1-1 03:42 PM

今朝輸左

作者: 甘國武 時間: 2006-1-1 06:57 PM

Originally posted by nashisthebestpg at 2006-1-1 01:09 PM:

咩叫軚王.............
話我轉軚快?

[ Last edited by nashisthebestpg on 2006-1-1 at 01:18 PM ]

正是~

作者: nashisthebestpg 時間: 2006-1-1 07:43 PM

我何時轉軚????

作者: cwc_tkd 時間: 2006-1-1 08:00 PM

我係bulls fans,
當然唔想佢地破記錄啦~
hehe..

作者: Dicksonheng 時間: 2006-1-1 08:03 PM

Originally posted by nashisthebestpg at 2005-12-31 07:06 PM:
另外,話馬刺唔夠打都好難講, 上次gino無出.....
gino對馬刺的作用好大呢, 尤其對住活塞, 無左gino的切入同分球差好遠.....
況且馬刺多數開季都較慢熱,始終季後賽先係佢地ge戰場......

其實我係馬刺球迷 =.=

作者: shaqkobe 時間: 2006-1-1 08:33 PM

Originally posted by Dicksonheng at 2006-1-1 20:03:

其實我係馬刺球迷 =.=

我林nash佢知。。

作者: nashisthebestpg 時間: 2006-1-1 08:55 PM

Originally posted by shaqkobe at 2006-1-1 08:33 PM:

我林nash佢知。。

其實我唔知........:cool:

作者: shaqkobe 時間: 2006-1-1 10:48 PM

Originally posted by nashisthebestpg at 2006-1-1 20:55:

其實我唔知........:cool:

估唔到。

作者: nashisthebestpg 時間: 2006-1-1 11:13 PM

Originally posted by shaqkobe at 2006-1-1 10:48 PM:

估唔到。

點解ge?
其實我都唔算好熟呢度d人啫.....

作者: Dicksonheng 時間: 2006-1-1 11:56 PM

Originally posted by nashisthebestpg at 2006-1-1 11:13 PM:

點解ge?
其實我都唔算好熟呢度d人啫.....

算啦算啦
係我唔出名者
係我問題 ...
至於gino 仲係我評價最高的球星

作者: nashisthebestpg 時間: 2006-1-2 12:03 AM

Originally posted by Dicksonheng at 2006-1-1 11:56 PM:

算啦算啦
係我唔出名者
係我問題 ...
至於gino 仲係我評價最高的球星

...............

作者: 甘國武 時間: 2006-1-2 12:04 AM

Originally posted by Dicksonheng at 2006-1-1 11:56 PM:

算啦算啦
係我唔出名者
係我問題 ...
至於gino 仲係我評價最高的球星

幸會，TD係我評價最高的球星~

作者: nashisthebestpg 時間: 2006-1-2 12:10 AM

Originally posted by 甘國武 at 2006-1-2 12:04 AM:

幸會，TD係我評價最高的球星~

你講起TD,我諗起一樣野,
有次j.o'neal黎香港, 有記者問佢now nba最出色的pf 是誰(問題大約咁上下)
then佢話kg 最好,then係佢自己, 跟住先係TD~
我睇完呢篇報導之後....無言......

作者: Dicksonheng 時間: 2006-1-2 12:49 AM

Originally posted by nashisthebestpg at 2006-1-2 12:10 AM:

kg 最好,then係佢自己, 跟住先係TD~

雖則話三個人一樣級數者
但一般人都會慣性將j.o'neal
放係 kg同td之下架啦
佢咁講好似唔係太識做人喎

作者: nashisthebestpg 時間: 2006-1-2 12:52 AM

Originally posted by Dicksonheng at 2006-1-2 12:49 AM:

雖則話三個人一樣級數者
但一般人都會慣性將j.o'neal
放係 kg同td之下架啦
佢咁講好似唔係太識做人喎

感覺上覺得佢仲差d.....
差ge應該係領袖氣質???

作者: 甘國武 時間: 2006-1-2 12:52 AM

Originally posted by Dicksonheng at 2006-1-2 12:49 AM:

雖則話三個人一樣級數者
但一般人都會慣性將j.o'neal
放係 kg同td之下架啦
佢咁講好似唔係太識做人喎

簡直不自量力la~

作者: Dicksonheng 時間: 2006-1-2 12:54 AM

Originally posted by nashisthebestpg at 2006-1-2 12:52 AM:

感覺上覺得佢仲差d.....
差ge應該係領袖氣質???

唔知喎
但如果整個投票
"誰是聯盟最佳大前鋒?"
我認為小奧尼爾的票數應該在td,kg之下

作者: 甘國武 時間: 2006-1-2 01:00 AM

Originally posted by nashisthebestpg at 2006-1-2 12:52 AM:

感覺上覺得佢仲差d.....
差ge應該係領袖氣質???

枝術都差好遠la下~

作者: Dicksonheng 時間: 2006-1-2 01:43 AM

Originally posted by 甘國武 at 2006-1-2 01:00 AM:

枝術都差好遠la下~

技術黎講
j.o'neal 食糊絕招:
背籃ab位強攻

籃板唔輸蝕td 同 kg
但其他就真係差d喎

作者: asianballer66 時間: 2006-1-2 02:59 PM

u guys seem to forget about Nowitzki, Brand and Marion (even tho marion is orginally a small forward). They, in my opinion, are better than J'Oneal this yr...Marion is just crazy mannnnn...at a height of 6'7, he is ranked the fourth in rebounding!!! and recorded second most double-doubles, which is definitely not expected from a 6'7 player despite Amare's absence.. his performance is that of an all-star and should gain him a spot in the all-star game!!!

作者: 76 時間: 2006-1-2 04:13 PM

活塞得6條友打波ja wor...........

作者: Chenjinnan 時間: 2006-1-2 04:16 PM

How crazy? Charles Barkley listed at 6-6, but actullay only 6-4 (when you see his photo with MJ, he is shorter than MJ), he led rebound for several seasons.

No matter how today's superstars performed, none of them impressed me as CB. I am not saying they are not good, they are just performing "normally", and "logical". CB, he was just "abnormal", and cannot be understand logically.

作者: asianballer66 時間: 2006-1-2 09:46 PM

well....i gotta see that pic!!!mind if u tell me where to see it? CUS i dun QUITE believe that..photo can just be deceiving sometimes...hahah....AND i just wanna point out that when u say he is "abnormal", u made it sound like he is retarded or something..dun quite get wut u're trying to say..but o well..r u saying he is abnormal as in his "behaviour off the court" or wut? neway, CB is definitely one of the greatest players in NBA history...i hv great respect for him...but itz all history! Marion is like a CB type then, i guessssssss...considering their height and stats...

作者: Chenjinnan 時間: 2006-1-3 05:19 PM

Oh, I was wrong. I don't have that pic but I have the video. Too bad its in VHS and I can't upload..

I said he is "abnormal", coz he was standing at 6-4, and 255 lbs, can you imagine that? In his prime time, he dunked over all centers and blocked their shots. Rodman + Pippen together couldn't stop him. He once grabbed 33 rebounds. He can shoot 3s. I also remember that he once grabbed the ball and threw a long pass for fast break before he landed. He is one of the 4 in NBA history with 20000 pts, 10000 rebound and 4000 ast. (Kareem, Wilt, Karl, Charles). You can see that, except Charles, the rest of those with same accomplishment are "normal" one: they are tall and fit.

Why Charles impressed me most? Because he was short and fat. He had a guard's height, center's weight. It is different when we watched MJ's skywalk and jam, with MJ's best balanced height and weight for a SG, we simply like watching Tom Cruise getting the best Artist, very logical. It is absolutely different when we watched Charles dribbling behind the back on fast break, then crushed down several bodies and dunked. It's unbelievable. A guy like his height and weight shouldn't even standing on basketball court.

He once claimed that he is not role model in Nike's ad. But I think not. If you have MJ's body condition (or LBJ's), it is 100% possible that you can be a successful sportman. It is rare if you do not. But Charles proved that, even short and fat, which most people encounter the same problem in real life, still can be successful. He is not a role model for basketball, but he is the role model for life. He teaches us not look down ourselve, he teaches us to work hard and not to give up.

Shawn Marion? Too far for him to catch up with Charles.

作者: nashisthebestpg 時間: 2006-1-3 05:28 PM

Originally posted by Chenjinnan at 2006-1-3 05:19 PM:
Oh, I was wrong. I don't have that ...

你d 英文好勁呢~

我覺得馬利安較為差的地方是無乜食糊招,
入波靠快攻,補籃和open look3分為多,but佢d 3分好唔穩定,有時連續2,3球open look都炒....
不過,佢d體能超勁,今日打左60分鐘.......

而巴克利真係好特別呢,雖然我唔係佢嗰個時代,但睇番佢d mix, 一個6尺4,5寸,重260磅ge人,可以係籃底屈高佬,又可以打快攻~
至緊要敢撩o'neal 隻揪!!!

[ Last edited by nashisthebestpg on 2006-1-3 at 05:37 PM ]

作者: Chenjinnan 時間: 2006-1-3 05:52 PM

我 D 英文得 C 架咋！

作者: nashisthebestpg 時間: 2006-1-3 05:58 PM

Originally posted by Chenjinnan at 2006-1-3 05:52 PM:
我 D 英文得 C 架咋！

英文c好勁ga la , 不過係ce or ue?

上面都睇得明,但打就一定打唔到出黎.....
我ce得 e....係論壇都想打下eng黎improve , but......跟本表達唔到.....

作者: 151515 時間: 2006-1-3 06:24 PM

I think can

作者: shaqkobe 時間: 2006-1-3 06:28 PM

Originally posted by nashisthebestpg at 2006-1-3 17:58:

英文c好勁ga la , 不過係ce or ue?
上面都睇得明,但打就一定打唔到出黎.....
我ce得 e....係論壇都想打下eng黎improve , but......跟本表達唔到.....

我都係！！！

作者: 我愛章小慧 時間: 2006-1-3 07:01 PM

Originally posted by Chenjinnan at 2006-1-3 05:52 PM:
我 D 英文得 C 架咋！

我英文得F......

作者: 艾力克 時間: 2006-1-3 07:53 PM

Originally posted by Dicksonheng at 2006-1-2 12:49 AM:

雖則話三個人一樣級數者
但一般人都會慣性將j.o'neal
放係 kg同td之下架啦
佢咁講好似唔係太識做人喎

佢敢認第2, 冇人咁認第一

作者: 艾力克 時間: 2006-1-3 07:59 PM

冇可能
場場都係得5個人打~

作者: 清揚 時間: 2006-1-3 08:01 PM

支持Piston,支持Rip.Hamilton~

作者: shaqkobe 時間: 2006-1-3 10:18 PM

Originally posted by 76 at 2006-1-2 16:13:
活塞得6條友打波ja wor...........

的確正選陣容好強，板凳實力不足。。長耐既賽程難以永遠保持佳態。好似上場咁。Billups同Prince呢D主將一失準，後備席上就無人可以頂替佢地既位置。這亦增加了破紀錄既難度。。。。以往做出勝率高佳績既球隊，後備陣容上都十分可觀。。

作者: pkdonald 時間: 2006-1-4 01:11 AM 標題: RE

我想問下佢地有個克羅地亞外援叫咩名
同埋而家有冇得比佢出場呢？

作者: shaqkobe 時間: 2006-1-4 02:16 AM

Originally posted by pkdonald at 2006-1-4 01:11:
我想問下佢地有個克羅地亞外援叫咩名
同埋而家有冇得比佢出場呢？

克羅地亞？？？
你講既係塞黑果個Milicic呀？

季初桑坦士曾經重用過佢，盡量俾佢多上陣。後備上陣十數分鐘。不過佢始終打唔起。依家淪落返為在垃圾時間上場的球員。

作者: 金魚佬 時間: 2006-1-4 02:25 AM

r.wallace雖然有佢好處。
但上年度決賽，最後兩場波，總出場時間先得49公鐘。一個eq太低既人。又被對手把握到佢弱點。馬刺最後兩場明顯搞興佢，令佢成早早犯規要坐板凳上。............好彩我係馬刺擁蠆。

球員狀態又梗有起跌，活塞無錯最近全隊當fit，但最怕到季尾先低潮就重衰。我想佢個教練都會為隊波回氣兼試練後備。季中就會安排下後備多些上陣，勝出率自然會回番一下。

[ Last edited by 金魚佬 on 2006-1-4 at 02:34 AM ]

作者: asianballer66 時間: 2006-1-4 04:05 AM

haha...u must be a hugeeeeeeee fan of Barkley eh? haha..owell...i didn't grow up watching his game...hahah...too little back then...so itz great that u told me so much about him...i appreciate it~BUT therez something i just wanna make sure and in fact, i am kinda skeptical about it...when u say he dunked over ALL THE CENTERS AND BLOCKED THEIR SHOTS, r u exaggerating?? i mean, u are making it sound like he had never been blocked by any center during his prime time...As for ur comment about a ROLE MODEL for LIFE, i really doubt it...u could hv used a better example like SPUD WEBB, who is only 5'7 and has crazy hops...most important of all, he has a decent record off the court as well...i believe (not too sure) that therez some problem with Charles Barkley off the court, which deters him from called a life model despite the fact that he is a undersized tremendous power forward...last but not least, shawn marion IS a Charles Barkley type..thatz for sure..considering that they r both undersized power foward...AND pls note that i only said he is Charles Barkley type...i repeat, he is charles barkley type...therez NOWHERE i said he is gonna be as gd as charles barkley. Thatz all i'm gonna say for now and thanks soo much for ur time...AND of course, i'm looking forward to ur response.

作者: pkdonald 時間: 2006-1-4 01:28 PM 標題: re

好野

又嬴一場

作者: Chenjinnan 時間: 2006-1-4 01:37 PM

Heh I didn't say he was never blocked by others. If a 6-4 low post guy wasn't blocked by someone else, its really a miracle. Well, I've seen him blocked D. Rob, Mutombo, Mchale... and dunked over Zo, Hakeem, Shaq...

Webb is another abnormal case, I admit. However, Webb didn't reach where Charles did, and I can't really say Webb had a successful career, thus hardly can Webb be a role model for anything. (The only thing he can proof is he can dunk, nothing more)

Aside from archievement, I still can't agree Shawn is a CB type. They have a totally different game style. Shawn is a player that somehow rely on the team (Nash), while teams (especially Sixers and Suns) rely on Charles more.

What you think he is a Charles type I guess is he can rebound and score. However, if you watch their games (guess its hard to find some Charles highlight nowadays) and their stat carefully, they are actually different. First thing is rebound. Shawn get his numbers mostly on defensive end, while Charles was better on offensive end (4.0 vs 2.6 career avg). Well, don't say that because Charles was a PF and Shawn is a SF. If Shawn can do a better job down low, he can play PF (which this is the first thing different with Charles). For scoring, Shawn scores mostly on open shot or by layups/dunks, which both are assisted by others (mostly Nash), while Charles can create his own shots, and also create for others. Their assists avg can tell you about this. (which this is the second thing different with Charles). Shawn does better on long range and Charles was a huge force down low. (and thats the 3rd different).

Yeah Charles was troublesome off the court, but mostly from his mouth. He talked too much trash. But at least, he didn't rape women or hook up with drugs. He did a couple of fights tho.

The only player whose game was similar to Charles I can think of was Larry Johnson.
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/larry_johnson/index.html

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作者: asianballer66 時間: 2006-1-4 02:43 PM

great to hear from u again. haha...so this time u r bringing up another retired player eh...haha...well...actually,i know about Larry johnson and SO u can save that "informative profile" for urself..haha...just jk man..
neway, itz true u didn't say that charles barkley had never been blocked..but this is the interpretation i got when i first looked at wut u wrote..but finally!! u made everything clear now..haha..and the reason why i said Webb can be a role model for life is due to the fact that his size didn't discourage him from pursuing his career in NBA...remember wut u said about Barkley?? guess u don't!! u said that he teaches us not to look down on ourselves..not to give up..blah blah blah..so i'm saying Webb is a better example for that case. get it? his size is extremely rare to be found in the NBA...extremely! i hope i'm making myself clear..gosh...lol..AND gosh..again...pls read wut i wrote about Shawn Marion...i said that he is Charles' type considering that he is an "undersized power forward", nothing to do with game style...game style is often coach's decision.. Both Marion and Barkley are undersized forward who can grab rebound, shoot threes, etc...Don't u see at least a little similarity? and just so u know, shawn marion does play PF in sun sometimes. Hez basically a forward, meaning that he can play both PF and SF... u might wanna watch his game..seems to me u hv no idea he plays PF sometimes..and he does score majority of his points down low this yr, not long range...and herez a link..http://www.nba.com/suns/news/marion_060103.html
u might wanna skim through it..the media is actually saying that the Suns is relying a lot on marion this yr..haha...suprisingly..haha...
Last point i wanna make before i leave is that "fighting" is BAD, especially in the states. A fight can often turn into a gunshooting incident cus u know, a lot of ppl have guns there, unlike in hk...so plz...dun make it sound like fighting isn't a big deal...itz a huge concern in USA!! AND SO saying that CHARLES BARKLEY is a role model sounds a total joke to me..hhaa..

作者: Chenjinnan 時間: 2006-1-4 03:26 PM

Well, its more convincible for one with successful career than another without for being a role model right? At least Charles got conference title, MVP, all-star MVP, NBA First Team... He missed the ring only.

You can only say that Shawn and Charles are both undersized forward (this one I agree), period. But you can never say Shawn is a Charles' type. They have more differences than similarities.

I didn't appreciate Charles' fighting acts on or off the court either. (he didn't use gun, he himself was a torpedo already) Its bad. But hes not as worst as others' sexual lawsuit, firearms, drugs... IMHO.

Role model doesn't mean you have to learn everything from it, just pick the goods and drop the bads...

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作者: Chenjinnan 時間: 2006-1-4 03:34 PM

Hahaha... pretty sorry to others that we have several posts here not related to Piston or Bulls...

作者: nashisthebestpg 時間: 2006-1-4 03:38 PM

好大堆英文...=.="
billups好波,39分career is the high~
9個assist得 1 個to~
佢ge assist/turnover 真係好勁呢~

作者: nashisthebestpg 時間: 2006-1-4 03:39 PM

Originally posted by Chenjinnan at 2006-1-4 03:34 PM:
Hahaha... pretty sorry to others that we have several posts here not related to Piston or Bulls...

haha, 講到馬利安同巴克利~

作者: asianballer66 時間: 2006-1-4 11:43 PM

YES YES YES...another reply from u again..haha..i guess i was pretty persuasive then huh...therez so many points u didn't answer (did u read the link?)....but itz ok..haha...at least u replied...and i guess ppl won't mind reading wut we wrote...they dun HAVE TO read it!
so i just wanna start off by saying that Spud Web is a successful person. Please think through before u write. again, u made another absurb statement, saying that he doesn't have a successful career..well..just think, he is in the NBA. "Neone" whoz in the NBA is successful, earning big bucks..
and plz!! i understand what defines role models...itz kinda like a behaviour example ppl would like to follow. But if i remember correctly, u r talking about role model for LIFE... FOR LIFE, i repeat..so WEBB is better... For life model, a successful career doesn't mean as much as the the inspiration ppl get from the person. Webb has a successful career and also, he is definitely an inspiration to those who doesn't hv the height and yet wanna go to NBA.
And about SHAWN MARION...can u pls tell me what the differences are? i backed everything up in my previous post, but u didn't reply to any of my points...AND when u play bball with ppl and ppl say that u r like Yao Ming, they r simply implying two things. 1) u r tall 2) u play like him. And in shawn marion case, i am refering to the first point--> size haha. so i guess itz ok for most ppl to say SHawn marion is like Charles Barkley in terms of size and position.
And about fighting..hahah..i thought u were those kind of ppl who think fighting is cool..but i'm glad u r not..hahhha..violence is not the way to solve a problem and Charles barkley,being AN ADULT, still don't get this..OMG OMG OMGGGGG!! wut a model..lol he even said he himself is not a role model..glad he knows it. hohohoh..lastly, i meant to say that fighting in the states is a lot more serious than in hk..cus a lot of ppl carry gun..gun is everywhere...so a simple fight often turns into some sort of gun incident, like i said. cus u really sounded like fighting is nth before..thatz why i brought up the gun issue..neway, thanks again for ur time! hehe

作者: Chenjinnan 時間: 2006-1-5 12:06 AM

Firstly, Webb will never as success as Charles. Secondly and personally, I don't agree Webb is successful, that's the point.

For Shawn, I guess I had clearly described what their differences between their game style in the previous post, so please read carefully. Also, if you say Shawn is undersize like Charles did, I again disagree. Charles is 6-4 and Shawn is 6-7. There are many 6-7 SF with good rebounding, like Richard Jefferson. But there are rarely a PF standing at 6-4, no matter he can score or rebound or what. Aside from height, Charles was simply a overweighted fat ball, while Shawn is in good shape. So from top to botton, left to right, they are no way similar. If you insist Shawn is a CB type, please give more actual examples.

I rather accept Shawn and Richard Jefferson are similar: same height, good rebound, 3s, quick, dunks... but I can't connect Shawn to Charles.

No, I don't like fighting. I always think all professional sportmen should behave themselves on and off the court. I was just saying that Charles did some bad fightings, which weren't as bad as sexual assault, drugs and firearms issue, nothing more. You can list out the consequence of gang fighting, but that didn't happen on Charles.

作者: asianballer66 時間: 2006-1-5 12:22 AM

hey hey hey....cool off buddy..relax...when u say web "will" nv be as successful as charles...i hope u know that web is already retired...he, for sure, didn't succeed as much as Webb...but he is still a success cus HE IS IN NBA!! thatz success, right?? and don't u think he can be an inspiration to ppl!? with his height and hops!?

and itz kinda unappropriate for u to ask me to read carefully when u r the one who don't...pls read my post after ur previous post. i said that game style is often decided by the coach...and shawn marion does play PF....omg..haha...and he is scoring majority of his point down low this yr.....omg...pls read...just read it..haha....i back up almost every single point u made in ur previous post..if u take some time to read it, u will get it...and yayyay....i like this comparision...i find shawn and jefferson comparison even more fit although barkley and marion is fit enuf..hahah..
and i'm glad to hear something bad about charles...wut a model!? haha....

作者: Chenjinnan 時間: 2006-1-5 12:40 AM

Sorry nope. I can't see he has a bright future ahead. His height is really impressive, but his dunks flash only in Slam Dunk Contest, not in-game. Charles monster dunk several times in-game, LBJ does, Kobe does, Carter doess... Webb doesn't. Going into NBA with his height was impressive, but not encouraging.

I saw what you wrote. I did point out that Shawn got his points by lay-ups and dunks too. (did you see that?) But, still doesn't mean he is similar to Charles. According to your theory, so all PF scoring in low post are similar? All PF scoring in low post are CB type? I bet you never watch how Charles plays. At least, even Malone was different with Charles. You know what? Charles played SF earlier in his career.

Charles Wade Barkley, although extremely undersized and overweighted, is one of the 50 greatest NBA player and future Hall of Famer, won MVP and allstar MVP... he is legendary. If you say no one can follow his path, you are correct, he can't be a role model in basketball. If you do not have born-advantages over others and think you are going to fail, look at Charles. He can be your role model. He already shown you.

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作者: asianballer66 時間: 2006-1-5 01:07 AM

itz certainly encouraging...omg...his height just inspires ppl especially chinese (who r short) that therez still chance of making it into NBA......howz that not encourgaging??

and ya...itz my bad..i didn't see wut u wrote about "layup and dunks"....but ur style of writing was not too well-structure in that part....but still itz my bad, i admit...and just so u know, i didn't have a theory...that wasn't a theory..a theory is something proven....thatz only an example of how most ppl say who is similar to who...thatz it!!!first thing ppl look at is the size and then blah blah blah...and omggggg..haha...not all PF scoring in low post are similar...but many of them r similar in that their main job is to try to grab rebound blah blah blah.... similar does not mean the "same". i hope u know that..haha

and i do know he is one of the greatest...but i dun see him as a life model...or even a role model...isn't he 6'6?? even if he is 6'4, itz still a common height to get into the NBA at least...at least itz easier than Webbbbbb's height..his height is like sooo rare that u can count it with ur fingers...

作者: Chenjinnan 時間: 2006-1-5 01:17 AM

It will be encouraging if he is also Chinese. Many black guys under 6' can dunk you know?

Since I watched both of their low post actions, so I said they are not similar.

6-4 is common, 25X lbs is common, but 6-4 + 25X lbs for PF is rare. (I heard he reached 300 lbs once). A 6-4 + 25X lbs PF with 2X pts, 1X rebound is ultra rare that you can count it with your dick. (j/k)

Well, before Webb, there was Mugsy (5-3), he once was a starter in Hornets, and he can dunk too.

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作者: asianballer66 時間: 2006-1-5 01:32 AM

man...i live in the states...u think i dunno that many blacks under 6' can dunk?? hahhahahh...but hv u ever watched a game in any NBA arena before?? the rim is higher! and to dunk like Web is extremely hard...so i guess u should say itz encouraging, but not encouraging enuf..u can't say itz not encouraging at all...hahah....any guy who is under 5'10 is an inspiration to us...maybe i should have used the tabuse as a better example 2...hahaha...not to mention mugsy..haha..
and 250+ is gd...it helps stablize ur position in the low post...or else u will get pushed ..and those numbers are rare..hahah..but counting it with my dick?? hahahahahh....wut a joke...do u even know wut "dick" is in english??? hahahahhahahahahah

作者: asianballer66 時間: 2006-1-5 01:33 AM

oops....a typo...

作者: Chenjinnan 時間: 2006-1-5 01:50 AM

I know of coz. I watched NBA since Dr. J, Magic, Bird...

Becoz even Mugsy (5-3) can dunk, so Webb isn't that impressed me.

And I know of coz, I watched a lot xxx.... hahahaha

作者: asianballer66 時間: 2006-1-5 01:57 AM

To be able to dunk is one thing. To dunk with 360", windmill...etc is another...therez a huge difference...the latter one is so much harder...this is my personal experience...haha..honestly..
and i know u watched a lot of games..but hv u ever watched in an arena, not on tv?

作者: Chenjinnan 時間: 2006-1-5 02:05 AM

Well... not NBA. I watched Yao Ming in HK...

作者: asianballer66 時間: 2006-1-5 02:09 AM

o...no wonder u dunno that the rim is higher in NBA la...

作者: Chenjinnan 時間: 2006-1-5 02:10 AM

No, I know the rim is higher, for a long time. I don't need to watch NBA live in order to know.

For NBA, the rims are heighted at 10' while most rims in HK are 3 meters.

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作者: asianballer66 時間: 2006-1-5 02:15 AM

so i guess ppl(like me) who know told u then...hahaha...

作者: asianballer66 時間: 2006-1-5 02:34 AM

hk d rim is so much shorter...dunking is so easy dere...

作者: lintohu 時間: 2006-1-5 05:33 PM

no, cos there's no MJ

作者: asianballer66 時間: 2006-1-6 12:10 AM

which post r u referring to?

作者: Dicksonheng 時間: 2006-1-7 07:38 PM

lol...
my English is awful lol

作者: nashisthebestpg 時間: 2006-1-7 08:09 PM

Originally posted by Dicksonheng at 2006-1-7 07:38 PM:
lol...
my English is awful lol

係 lo.....太多英文.....
無心機睇晒.... =.="

作者: 打狗棒 時間: 2006-1-7 08:53 PM

全部西人?

作者: Chenjinnan 時間: 2006-1-7 11:18 PM

你話天地會既總舵主係唔係西人？

作者: brightlee 時間: 2006-1-7 11:23 PM

Originally posted by nashisthebestpg at 2006-1-7 22:09:

係 lo.....太多英文.....
無心機睇晒.... =.="

Dick and Nash,
you should learn English when you are young!!

Otherwise when you will work, you could feel embrassed about yourself
(unless you don't want to look wider around this world)

作者: 藍 時間: 2006-1-7 11:23 PM

Originally posted by Chenjinnan at 2006-1-7 11:18 PM:
你話天地會既總舵主係唔係西人？

= =,移左民掛
黃飛鴻都打到去美國,仲做埋印弟安人添拉

作者: Chenjinnan 時間: 2006-1-7 11:30 PM

哈哈哈~~~

不過唔使移民都可以識英文啩~

作者: nashisthebestpg 時間: 2006-1-7 11:33 PM

Originally posted by brightlee at 2006-1-7 11:23 PM:

Dick and Nash,
you should learn English when you are young!!

Otherwise when you will work, you could feel embrassed about yourself
(unless you don't want to look wider around this world)

haha,平時睇得多.....學校同補習大把文睇la,上網都要睇....想relax 下ma~

同埋....上面d英文....太密呢....睇睇下就無心機睇了........
(仲有....上面d 野有無錯grammar ga

)

作者: brightlee 時間: 2006-1-7 11:40 PM

Originally posted by nashisthebestpg at 2006-1-8 01:33:

haha,平時睇得多.....學校同補習大...

Most of them are right.......

More than 99%

(well, if you are "chatting", grammar is not the MOST IMPORTANT factor........)

作者: brightlee 時間: 2006-1-7 11:49 PM

filter-074 and Chen,
thanks for your sharing in here...~~ =)

By the way, Mussy couldn't slam in NBA, but once upon a time, he had a block shot ...... from Patrick Ewing

Nate Robinson, Allan Iverson and Isiah Thomas, they can/could slam in NBA as they are/was under 6'0

Well, that's a little bit out of topic, but I think Sir Charles was a really special player in NBA, his motivation/aggressive styles, effected his teams a lot when he was playing

作者: asianballer66 時間: 2006-1-8 12:55 AM

grammar錯??? where? hahahahhahah

作者: nashisthebestpg 時間: 2006-1-8 01:05 AM

Originally posted by filter-074baller66 at 2006-1-8 12:55 AM:
grammar錯??? where? hahahahhahah

問下啫...無話你錯......haha

作者: asianballer66 時間: 2006-1-8 02:18 AM

hahahahaha...iccccccccc....tell me if u find any...

作者: Chenjinnan 時間: 2006-1-8 02:26 AM

Originally posted by brightlee at 2006-1-7 23:49:
filter-074 and Chen,
thanks for yo...

He indeed did dunk in the first round playoffs against the Chicago Bulls long time ago. And here's another website said that he could dunk too:

http://www.ontario.k12.or.us/Dis ... oms2studentjn01.htm

作者: asianballer66 時間: 2006-1-8 03:09 AM

is the website created by a student from middle school? if so, the information might not be as accurate...but i do believe that Mussy can dunk...itz just that dunking is sometimes risky...and so we just saw him making layup a lot more...

作者: Chenjinnan 時間: 2006-1-8 12:10 PM

Yeah, can't verify. Ah... talking about Shawn, I somehow always paying attention to Boris Diaw rather. He seems to have great talent: 7.x reb and 6.x ast avg...

作者: nashisthebestpg 時間: 2006-1-8 12:58 PM

活塞再一次輸俾jazz.....................................................................................=.="

作者: asianballer66 時間: 2006-1-8 02:08 PM

ha...ya...hez gd too!! glad that u finally pay some attention to suns' game..haha..

作者: brightlee 時間: 2006-1-8 02:24 PM

Originally posted by Chenjinnan at 2006-1-8 14:10:
Yeah, can't verify. Ah... talking about Shawn, I somehow always paying attention to Boris Diaw rather. He seems to have great talent: 7.x reb and 6.x ast avg...

Someone say he's another Magic Johnson (in ESPN.com)
I never watch his game
but I am thinking another Clyde Drexler is coming in NBA.......
(from stats)

By the way, that's a shock as Jazz won @ Pistons.....!!!

Pistons.. their bench are too weak!!!

作者: shaqkobe 時間: 2006-1-8 02:26 PM

Originally posted by nashisthebestpg at 2006-1-8 12:58:
活塞再一次輸俾jazz.....................................................................................=.="

唔通真係格食格=.="

作者: brightlee 時間: 2006-1-8 02:27 PM

Originally posted by Chenjinnan at 2006-1-8 04:26:

He indeed did dunk in the first...

we can ask NBA.com... via email...?! right?!

作者: Chenjinnan 時間: 2006-1-9 12:43 AM

Originally posted by filter-074baller66 at 2006-1-8 14:08:
ha...ya...hez gd too!! glad that u finally pay some attention to suns' game..haha..

Haha... Charles played for Suns before, so I actually will pay attention to Suns, even Charles is retired.... kekeke

作者: Chenjinnan 時間: 2006-1-9 12:43 AM

Originally posted by brightlee at 2006-1-8 14:27:

we can ask NBA.com... via email...?! right?!

You sure can ask NBA.com.... but I am not sure they will reply.... @ @

作者: asianballer66 時間: 2006-1-9 09:43 AM

haha..i guess i should rephrase wut i said....hahaha...glad that u pay MORE attention to the suns...

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