甘國武

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-2-4 10:24 AM:
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曹操的祖父是宦官曹騰的養子,對不對？

! ]  m+ w8 z6 }yes,but...wht 關係 with 夏候's family？

甘國武

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-2-4 10:26 AM:
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: ~% S: ]+ f, a$ T曹操祖父本性夏侯，因曹騰收養了他，故改性曹,對不對？

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yes,so 夏侯惇、夏候威等 are 曹操堂兄弟
: s! s; p: W9 L! N( jmore than half 將軍 is 姓曹&夏候

甘國武

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-2-4 10:33 AM:4 f+ E  K9 W- f, o

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2 o1 N- }, J& o7 @/ P不是夏侯惇之侄嗎？' E! v! ?' y9 c' T0 A9 l

8 g6 W4 L% a6 q# Z  q/ R夏侯玄是夏侯尚之子，最後......

# |' A; M9 R+ N8 Y  s  Lyes,i like 夏侯惇 very much# L7 ^: ?2 ]- Q
his eye 中箭,he put it out,& eat it2 `" [; T! _% v
very man！

甘國武

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-2-4 10:39 AM:- r. Y; U( _1 \
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曹仁也不錯

, {5 \8 i9 c5 h% e: s' `, x諸葛's family也強，分散投資

甘國武

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-2-4 10:44 AM:
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9 L$ `$ d: ?2 J% }5 s一代忠將，不向司馬屈服，可敬！

; S% U/ S  p( E% H! A5 \/ a3 }why曹魏無忠臣？ask曹操吧~

甘國武

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-2-4 10:51 AM:
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. ~9 u" w  e% G6 g. a7 n有！陳泰，母丘儉，諸葛誕，許禇，張遼，王經......

8 d% c8 @# K  `' A8 c/ ?this is 忠將:cool:

甘國武

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-2-4 10:54 AM:
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( w, \3 w& W; B7 V3 j王經係忠臣
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% @+ s& F3 N; w程昱，賈詡，高柔......

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係咪咁ar？！
  k3 o' r- ^& c, b! l0 V1 q2 D7 f6 q兜都唔比兜，好串喎！

甘國武

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-2-4 10:57 AM:  O* T% Y( W+ }! u; @% q& ~3 k

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事旦，程昱在呂布偷襲時......

! r" t" s, n. A我想說的，是曹操的唯才主義...

甘國武

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-2-4 10:59 AM:9 r9 _/ Y. v& o* \) w
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3 X. A! g' Y7 J# Q4 X  ^+ V' }陳琳

2 J% W. C* p0 |( e; o: \1 ndon't just two words,ok？

甘國武

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-2-4 11:01 AM:0 I* m% x6 Q5 U, [+ E

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陳琳臭罵曹操幾代，仍能不死

( c  z9 z7 M* ]& r馮道五代為官，更為經典