甘國武

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-2-4 10:24 AM:
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曹操的祖父是宦官曹騰的養子,對不對？

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yes,but...wht 關係 with 夏候's family？

甘國武

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-2-4 10:26 AM:# |& R- w1 J5 q! Q4 E
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5 f- A7 V7 F2 ~* y. T- R$ a4 c曹操祖父本性夏侯，因曹騰收養了他，故改性曹,對不對？

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yes,so 夏侯惇、夏候威等 are 曹操堂兄弟
3 U! |! a& E3 A9 Q) E9 l0 fmore than half 將軍 is 姓曹&夏候

甘國武

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-2-4 10:33 AM:# j1 q% j7 V: w9 K. G& o
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* }5 v/ Z1 D! ^# `不是夏侯惇之侄嗎？1 I0 O, w  P" N. [4 y) {  j
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夏侯玄是夏侯尚之子，最後......

' `1 \% j+ G. D% U7 ?6 _3 N' ]yes,i like 夏侯惇 very much( Z. o' _7 o0 L1 F3 M9 c( |, G
his eye 中箭,he put it out,& eat it/ ]8 j& P- L! X/ b
very man！

甘國武

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-2-4 10:39 AM:
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夏侯惇也算是魏國的一個名將5 {+ [3 d) B/ p
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曹仁也不錯

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甘國武

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-2-4 10:44 AM:+ G! o; X7 x# ^

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0 U) o2 v3 r% P, t  g- d. E一代忠將，不向司馬屈服，可敬！

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why曹魏無忠臣？ask曹操吧~

甘國武

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-2-4 10:51 AM:/ e- Z0 ^4 ]' r8 I9 H8 J) n

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9 _0 V3 M' |4 n- L: |  O有！陳泰，母丘儉，諸葛誕，許禇，張遼，王經......

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this is 忠將:cool:

甘國武

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-2-4 10:54 AM:4 P4 E) d2 o6 P! C
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程昱，賈詡，高柔......

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  U  |; g; m  [兜都唔比兜，好串喎！

甘國武

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-2-4 10:57 AM:
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+ Z- v- v9 B$ w; Z: ?9 h: Q事旦，程昱在呂布偷襲時......

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我想說的，是曹操的唯才主義...

甘國武

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-2-4 10:59 AM:
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* M/ s1 j1 e$ v$ edon't just two words,ok？

甘國武

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-2-4 11:01 AM:
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8 Z2 f' _4 O4 S& p3 E2 J陳琳臭罵曹操幾代，仍能不死

7 L  b, z- E0 q( n! T馮道五代為官，更為經典