甘國武

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-2-4 10:24 AM:/ Q0 Y# X" M% g0 l2 d

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曹操的祖父是宦官曹騰的養子,對不對？

& z. f* Z8 q/ Fyes,but...wht 關係 with 夏候's family？

甘國武

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-2-4 10:26 AM:
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曹操祖父本性夏侯，因曹騰收養了他，故改性曹,對不對？

* k7 B8 ]4 S* J8 q4 H& |yes,so 夏侯惇、夏候威等 are 曹操堂兄弟
1 V1 p- E8 ^) N2 V# |3 Omore than half 將軍 is 姓曹&夏候

甘國武

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-2-4 10:33 AM:$ W1 q. Y1 ?8 t# D% X1 h
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不是夏侯惇之侄嗎？
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& Z1 Z" L% o8 @" V1 P夏侯玄是夏侯尚之子，最後......

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yes,i like 夏侯惇 very much
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very man！

甘國武

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-2-4 10:39 AM:
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% M, q3 Z3 `5 \& o: i; k( X* E夏侯惇也算是魏國的一個名將
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* @" m4 d% h+ `8 a& z, t曹仁也不錯

: M5 K: J2 W' t$ L: g諸葛's family也強，分散投資

甘國武

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-2-4 10:44 AM:5 u2 q% b/ U" D) R* _

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一代忠將，不向司馬屈服，可敬！

( H3 t, s- l9 ~9 P$ |  ewhy曹魏無忠臣？ask曹操吧~

甘國武

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-2-4 10:51 AM:4 R* u/ y3 t( ^# e2 V+ @) ?

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有！陳泰，母丘儉，諸葛誕，許禇，張遼，王經......

4 n, N" Q* q6 ?$ @4 u. Kthis is 忠將:cool:

甘國武

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-2-4 10:54 AM:
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王經係忠臣
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程昱，賈詡，高柔......

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9 b' ~& Y7 W# c. U: s9 f+ b" B0 k兜都唔比兜，好串喎！

甘國武

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-2-4 10:57 AM:8 I& h+ A. z" T$ _6 F0 Z$ B1 k

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: \+ x$ Z* N8 P' `3 V( u, g事旦，程昱在呂布偷襲時......

4 b: |9 L. {8 R3 W$ |+ s我想說的，是曹操的唯才主義...

甘國武

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-2-4 10:59 AM:( g- B: ], x7 M( U
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don't just two words,ok？

甘國武

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-2-4 11:01 AM:
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; a7 q: C8 f% Z( J# b! f/ b陳琳臭罵曹操幾代，仍能不死

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