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我會好多謝佢咁早俾我認識佢.  俾我明白我喺呢個世界只係度過幾十年, 甚至更短嘅客旅生活.  俾我明白將來我會去邊度.  無論開心, 唔開心嘅事, 佢都陪伴我一齊經過.

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Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
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many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ) r1 w2 `9 [( j  g9 _8 F8 q, k
but why jesus need to do this?
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for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus! T6 D( f4 y! J, l! U
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
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6 m4 O0 k$ i* p% x1 ]what will u do???" H' [5 L2 y4 m( E! m1 `$ [6 Q
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, # q4 ?/ Z8 Z* G

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

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Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:5 R' e" `3 N  I: |- f; {8 v* f
bro singgeihot and rest365days# Z1 @; o' [: i: d# i
honestly, if there is jesus
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we can't blow him :cool:

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5 o+ \" I' @1 \* aunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool:

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His purpose is for his own fun and entertainment??

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Are you sure that there was no innocent christian that had died from the Tsunami??

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# r, N) n; F+ l$ _3 Qthat's the point... you can think of 1,000,000 reasons (including punishment,  for fun and entertainment).. but so far no evidence... so i will keep saying that:  "i don't know", and infact i only care about the people, what we could do the help them..
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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:21 PM:
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For sure we'll never know his purpose. But this is something that he had done, or could have prevented if he does exist.

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  N0 d& {* O$ t( s, a8 k0 n如果佢唔存在, 你問緊mud? 問點解一個唔存在嘅神, 無按你嘅心意去行事?
8 \. l  i+ D" @如果佢存在, 點解你唔直接問佢呢?  

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Originally posted by vivienna at 2005-6-4 12:41 PM:( \4 R1 l7 |5 l+ ?% `# E% N7 p4 T
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sing sing, from a christian's point of view, dying is a way to reach heaven faster, they like dying more than anyone does. no kidding.

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oh really?  i don't think in this way wor... i have a lot of things to do, a lot of people to love.. to preach the gospel. 耶穌未返嚟, 唔好偷懶喎
7 D) |6 j8 K0 T# t. B0 Epls don't over-generalize things.. and don't speak for others.

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Originally posted by vivienna at 2005-6-4 12:47 PM:  x6 T& i  m. h! ^. ^
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God arranged the Tsunami on purpo...

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what???? ...

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:57 PM:
- _& t$ s: V; n如果佢真係唔存在, 我会心安理得...

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停留喺自己嘅空想, or同其他人傾, 作用不大, 你都係自己鬧神一餐, 然後聽吓佢點講好D

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基督教的”排他性”之強, 可說是主流宗教之中數一數二的.  這是基督教信仰內容的一部分.  信徒在堅守”獨一”這個前提之下, 如何與其他信仰的人相處, 實在是一個值得思的課題.  如果處理不妥當, 往往令人反感, 長洲踩場事件就是個例子.  然而另一方面, ”獨一”又是一條不容妥協的底線, 所以每當討論觸及教義的時候, 衝突有時是難免的.
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( B3 _& f6 i6 H/ f0 S3 K& b我認為最重要是保持理性, 和互相尊重的態度.  反正我們不是比劍, 大家都交換意見就夠了.  不用互相批評對方.
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1 `1 `: k+ ]; z4 j- b! a0 V) m相信forum當中, 以至無數非基督徒都曾經被基督徒”激親”, 希望基督徒都能夠明白別人的感受, 而非基督徒亦理解對方的立場.  大家講完就算.