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我會好多謝佢咁早俾我認識佢.  俾我明白我喺呢個世界只係度過幾十年, 甚至更短嘅客旅生活.  俾我明白將來我會去邊度.  無論開心, 唔開心嘅事, 佢都陪伴我一齊經過.

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Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
9 U# W  P4 g0 `& y, G$ Z- ~8 Vbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
/ {8 ^* L4 T7 u6 H' c! c+ \; |comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case: V1 ?; @  r" \( `% p
why this happen? just simple........punishment
3 |. o$ d) ]# ]& ^many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things % k; r$ T3 i- T7 H4 L
but why jesus need to do this?
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for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
1 O* f/ c' R* ~9 n0 ^. Q) Y3 F$ ctry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
, a# a9 W% V0 m' q2 U: i, nbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u - d9 k- ]% q6 d( Q' R- ?$ G
what will u do???# f* D$ O' \( D. Q; V) k7 c& n8 j
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, ! C+ `+ T; T& O( O

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/ u3 f% M- [! ^sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

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Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:5 t1 p9 N  W* h' c0 U# V
bro singgeihot and rest365days+ N8 c9 b9 `, h6 W* M
honestly, if there is jesus
- R* D$ [7 \, Jhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus! S0 \. w  g  [; {+ `4 ]% ~
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:) `+ P- L" t4 R2 u  F
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool:

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His purpose is for his own fun and entertainment??

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Are you sure that there was no innocent christian that had died from the Tsunami??

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that's the point... you can think of 1,000,000 reasons (including punishment,  for fun and entertainment).. but so far no evidence... so i will keep saying that:  "i don't know", and infact i only care about the people, what we could do the help them..) o  M: C7 I  U+ c- V
stop here.

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:21 PM:( n' ~6 K! s' g1 T, e( b/ r

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For sure we'll never know his purpose. But this is something that he had done, or could have prevented if he does exist.

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如果佢唔存在, 你問緊mud? 問點解一個唔存在嘅神, 無按你嘅心意去行事?
3 i9 O  J' E! e如果佢存在, 點解你唔直接問佢呢?  

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Originally posted by vivienna at 2005-6-4 12:41 PM:
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1 v8 ~5 P+ H. H+ ]sing sing, from a christian's point of view, dying is a way to reach heaven faster, they like dying more than anyone does. no kidding.

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; F" F0 f6 h9 I: yoh really?  i don't think in this way wor... i have a lot of things to do, a lot of people to love.. to preach the gospel. 耶穌未返嚟, 唔好偷懶喎4 Z; y! ^2 S& c* F, l3 `& E
pls don't over-generalize things.. and don't speak for others.

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Originally posted by vivienna at 2005-6-4 12:47 PM:' i2 e, t& ?, F" v7 i
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God arranged the Tsunami on purpo...

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:57 PM:
. X( @* J: m) X1 B) Z0 Z: w2 h  ^. g如果佢真係唔存在, 我会心安理得...

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. T2 [/ k* k$ @$ X停留喺自己嘅空想, or同其他人傾, 作用不大, 你都係自己鬧神一餐, 然後聽吓佢點講好D

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基督教的”排他性”之強, 可說是主流宗教之中數一數二的.  這是基督教信仰內容的一部分.  信徒在堅守”獨一”這個前提之下, 如何與其他信仰的人相處, 實在是一個值得思的課題.  如果處理不妥當, 往往令人反感, 長洲踩場事件就是個例子.  然而另一方面, ”獨一”又是一條不容妥協的底線, 所以每當討論觸及教義的時候, 衝突有時是難免的.* {/ W9 a7 {* B7 L: s' o1 p" t. W. t7 L

8 K& I$ W: v- R& Y* @1 M我認為最重要是保持理性, 和互相尊重的態度.  反正我們不是比劍, 大家都交換意見就夠了.  不用互相批評對方.0 P0 i$ Z* m" |- k0 f) O8 i

6 ~; X! ^1 U( P1 V相信forum當中, 以至無數非基督徒都曾經被基督徒”激親”, 希望基督徒都能夠明白別人的感受, 而非基督徒亦理解對方的立場.  大家講完就算.