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我會好多謝佢咁早俾我認識佢.  俾我明白我喺呢個世界只係度過幾十年, 甚至更短嘅客旅生活.  俾我明白將來我會去邊度.  無論開心, 唔開心嘅事, 佢都陪伴我一齊經過.

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Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:7 E) D  x  ?% F% t' p
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?; O& a% Z- I0 [. z  l2 q
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
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many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 5 A: R- h0 ]. Y( B3 l- i7 i3 V
but why jesus need to do this?
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for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
  d: H# H* L% |* V& stry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
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what will u do???4 ]7 g  R2 W# u/ B8 b9 Z- q
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, , [& c* r* J7 E1 y2 K8 J

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

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Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
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honestly, if there is jesus
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: l' H" t  N+ M7 Pwe can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:+ L: j2 `6 M3 J; u
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool:

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His purpose is for his own fun and entertainment??

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Are you sure that there was no innocent christian that had died from the Tsunami??

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8 w+ Z1 }/ f, A# Nthat's the point... you can think of 1,000,000 reasons (including punishment,  for fun and entertainment).. but so far no evidence... so i will keep saying that:  "i don't know", and infact i only care about the people, what we could do the help them..5 O! }) f0 o0 d; ]( r3 w- V
stop here.

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:21 PM:$ z8 M, i$ l2 Q
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For sure we'll never know his purpose. But this is something that he had done, or could have prevented if he does exist.

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如果佢存在, 點解你唔直接問佢呢?  

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Originally posted by vivienna at 2005-6-4 12:41 PM:- x1 H7 y% W$ T. i

2 w5 T9 u% i+ h6 a: E2 p, Esing sing, from a christian's point of view, dying is a way to reach heaven faster, they like dying more than anyone does. no kidding.

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oh really?  i don't think in this way wor... i have a lot of things to do, a lot of people to love.. to preach the gospel. 耶穌未返嚟, 唔好偷懶喎
# L% Q) @) C! E1 Zpls don't over-generalize things.. and don't speak for others.

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Originally posted by vivienna at 2005-6-4 12:47 PM:: b& m5 c, H; `3 k8 q

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:57 PM:, G8 A3 }" W* B: B; k8 [* q
如果佢真係唔存在, 我会心安理得...

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0 M0 ~7 d; {; [4 Q( W停留喺自己嘅空想, or同其他人傾, 作用不大, 你都係自己鬧神一餐, 然後聽吓佢點講好D

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基督教的”排他性”之強, 可說是主流宗教之中數一數二的.  這是基督教信仰內容的一部分.  信徒在堅守”獨一”這個前提之下, 如何與其他信仰的人相處, 實在是一個值得思的課題.  如果處理不妥當, 往往令人反感, 長洲踩場事件就是個例子.  然而另一方面, ”獨一”又是一條不容妥協的底線, 所以每當討論觸及教義的時候, 衝突有時是難免的.
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" ]* `% _4 W. x) I3 A9 ?- p相信forum當中, 以至無數非基督徒都曾經被基督徒”激親”, 希望基督徒都能夠明白別人的感受, 而非基督徒亦理解對方的立場.  大家講完就算.