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我會好多謝佢咁早俾我認識佢.  俾我明白我喺呢個世界只係度過幾十年, 甚至更短嘅客旅生活.  俾我明白將來我會去邊度.  無論開心, 唔開心嘅事, 佢都陪伴我一齊經過.

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Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:/ T4 K- Z" O+ |  b( K
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?$ q  b" X9 J4 ^* `1 `) y
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case( i' l. ?3 b5 J2 Y+ A3 m
why this happen? just simple........punishment3 S0 ]9 d+ ?& C; [  M0 L
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
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for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
+ r, r2 ~6 n2 e% mtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
+ k' G0 x& j# p' T. C1 \) a( Ybut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
# y0 X: t0 e: T  I) Q( e- _what will u do???
" M5 V8 f% H! s1 X+ \4 K! Qjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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$ J0 t. B( k6 e! }sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

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Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
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. F. `' e4 x5 T, Zhonestly, if there is jesus4 E! O& P0 c! w2 t
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus+ |3 t; e0 ^+ F- k# i7 t' V& o
we can't blow him :cool:

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8 y9 B9 G8 E. Xunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:) P5 n* \% g" T! j
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool:

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His purpose is for his own fun and entertainment??

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Are you sure that there was no innocent christian that had died from the Tsunami??

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that's the point... you can think of 1,000,000 reasons (including punishment,  for fun and entertainment).. but so far no evidence... so i will keep saying that:  "i don't know", and infact i only care about the people, what we could do the help them..
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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:21 PM:
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For sure we'll never know his purpose. But this is something that he had done, or could have prevented if he does exist.

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如果佢唔存在, 你問緊mud? 問點解一個唔存在嘅神, 無按你嘅心意去行事?
8 L1 i+ ]! V! M7 `8 J如果佢存在, 點解你唔直接問佢呢?  

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Originally posted by vivienna at 2005-6-4 12:41 PM:
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* I- Z" u/ z" I9 Asing sing, from a christian's point of view, dying is a way to reach heaven faster, they like dying more than anyone does. no kidding.

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oh really?  i don't think in this way wor... i have a lot of things to do, a lot of people to love.. to preach the gospel. 耶穌未返嚟, 唔好偷懶喎) p" t9 y7 @3 z) S
pls don't over-generalize things.. and don't speak for others.

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Originally posted by vivienna at 2005-6-4 12:47 PM:
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" j6 x/ v; c9 f  kGod arranged the Tsunami on purpo...

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what???? ...

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:57 PM:: N" w% s8 @4 Q9 g0 E( n( h  ~
如果佢真係唔存在, 我会心安理得...

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" w; L* N1 h) Q停留喺自己嘅空想, or同其他人傾, 作用不大, 你都係自己鬧神一餐, 然後聽吓佢點講好D

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基督教的”排他性”之強, 可說是主流宗教之中數一數二的.  這是基督教信仰內容的一部分.  信徒在堅守”獨一”這個前提之下, 如何與其他信仰的人相處, 實在是一個值得思的課題.  如果處理不妥當, 往往令人反感, 長洲踩場事件就是個例子.  然而另一方面, ”獨一”又是一條不容妥協的底線, 所以每當討論觸及教義的時候, 衝突有時是難免的.
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我認為最重要是保持理性, 和互相尊重的態度.  反正我們不是比劍, 大家都交換意見就夠了.  不用互相批評對方.. A# y! V5 j# j9 j# V8 o, P, t& x
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相信forum當中, 以至無數非基督徒都曾經被基督徒”激親”, 希望基督徒都能夠明白別人的感受, 而非基督徒亦理解對方的立場.  大家講完就算.