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我會好多謝佢咁早俾我認識佢.  俾我明白我喺呢個世界只係度過幾十年, 甚至更短嘅客旅生活.  俾我明白將來我會去邊度.  無論開心, 唔開心嘅事, 佢都陪伴我一齊經過.

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Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
: w0 j5 m8 J: `4 Dbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
: W3 o! S* p4 Ncomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case$ S0 T* o9 j" N1 F8 G0 x. ~* X5 c
why this happen? just simple........punishment
- ~' C5 `: |/ d% W% {% `many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 6 [: a4 N6 I' c6 W! {; Z3 W  K
but why jesus need to do this?
8 q; I1 s. G0 G/ s) |) Ipunsihment for what???
! L) }; |4 j, f3 ffor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
( c$ I5 [8 M1 j6 etry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers/ P" G  a* ~$ y% ]( Q
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
; S, W6 c. X2 ~# U* u+ ewhat will u do???
9 v$ R: K! t, I( t  Rjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

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Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:7 E7 A: @# {- v* C& g
bro singgeihot and rest365days
- ~0 u/ [$ ^8 X8 W( k/ rhonestly, if there is jesus6 {9 `; v% W; N+ |! _- V8 g
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus% S' N" R5 j5 \( x
we can't blow him :cool:

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: Y2 \9 D$ s8 L0 E2 y* b* b3 M- Q, Cunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
2 ]0 H: P( k5 U" e自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool:

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His purpose is for his own fun and entertainment??

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Are you sure that there was no innocent christian that had died from the Tsunami??

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that's the point... you can think of 1,000,000 reasons (including punishment,  for fun and entertainment).. but so far no evidence... so i will keep saying that:  "i don't know", and infact i only care about the people, what we could do the help them..  [+ s$ W& d( _$ E6 H% c( \; R
stop here.

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:21 PM:* f3 i8 Q9 ?1 u0 }/ a$ h2 T

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For sure we'll never know his purpose. But this is something that he had done, or could have prevented if he does exist.

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如果佢唔存在, 你問緊mud? 問點解一個唔存在嘅神, 無按你嘅心意去行事?
5 c% Q4 u7 `4 o% Z7 ]如果佢存在, 點解你唔直接問佢呢?  

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Originally posted by vivienna at 2005-6-4 12:41 PM:. Z1 Y7 m* j8 w. x
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sing sing, from a christian's point of view, dying is a way to reach heaven faster, they like dying more than anyone does. no kidding.

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oh really?  i don't think in this way wor... i have a lot of things to do, a lot of people to love.. to preach the gospel. 耶穌未返嚟, 唔好偷懶喎5 w. x/ N2 I; y7 P3 A  x
pls don't over-generalize things.. and don't speak for others.

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Originally posted by vivienna at 2005-6-4 12:47 PM:
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what???? ...

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:57 PM:
8 v! L% r, v! g2 ^" o, o: \' n如果佢真係唔存在, 我会心安理得...

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  ^! F2 h9 p8 `停留喺自己嘅空想, or同其他人傾, 作用不大, 你都係自己鬧神一餐, 然後聽吓佢點講好D

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基督教的”排他性”之強, 可說是主流宗教之中數一數二的.  這是基督教信仰內容的一部分.  信徒在堅守”獨一”這個前提之下, 如何與其他信仰的人相處, 實在是一個值得思的課題.  如果處理不妥當, 往往令人反感, 長洲踩場事件就是個例子.  然而另一方面, ”獨一”又是一條不容妥協的底線, 所以每當討論觸及教義的時候, 衝突有時是難免的.+ X: S6 }3 }- C6 F

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0 V7 X4 P1 U5 G2 w+ y2 D相信forum當中, 以至無數非基督徒都曾經被基督徒”激親”, 希望基督徒都能夠明白別人的感受, 而非基督徒亦理解對方的立場.  大家講完就算.