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我會好多謝佢咁早俾我認識佢.  俾我明白我喺呢個世界只係度過幾十年, 甚至更短嘅客旅生活.  俾我明白將來我會去邊度.  無論開心, 唔開心嘅事, 佢都陪伴我一齊經過.

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Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:' `9 V; F6 L$ l; ?# E
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
1 O% t" K. H# m, D) E# dcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case$ M( V& K8 I0 j, h
why this happen? just simple........punishment" U8 Z, M' l" v7 P& ]. ~
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 7 V  f1 ^# L8 {& s7 `7 Z" x# x' L
but why jesus need to do this?5 I1 e) z2 p; }. d: l0 p3 H+ `0 E
punsihment for what???8 p' Z6 d/ N% w. x
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus2 {/ G5 l! D% z: V$ O6 F
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
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what will u do???
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9 i/ z6 j" g* Bsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

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Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:3 z4 j! C# w% y
bro singgeihot and rest365days7 C$ D# q+ g$ F" G
honestly, if there is jesus
" q2 Z- t7 Y9 D+ l2 \" E) Fhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
3 B5 @# k8 K% d5 bwe can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:3 n- y+ V- j5 f  o8 ^
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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; T3 b) O4 \' w: ~haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool:

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His purpose is for his own fun and entertainment??

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Are you sure that there was no innocent christian that had died from the Tsunami??

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6 T* `% ^: ?& v- a4 F2 I. lthat's the point... you can think of 1,000,000 reasons (including punishment,  for fun and entertainment).. but so far no evidence... so i will keep saying that:  "i don't know", and infact i only care about the people, what we could do the help them..1 w- G9 |% c+ J( Y6 `
stop here.

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:21 PM:8 {9 q. b$ W+ `+ [7 J2 c

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9 _7 U8 b9 d  KFor sure we'll never know his purpose. But this is something that he had done, or could have prevented if he does exist.

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! p% n2 h' ]7 U5 R9 D+ A# g6 X8 j6 @如果佢唔存在, 你問緊mud? 問點解一個唔存在嘅神, 無按你嘅心意去行事?' y3 Z) ?: m. w+ d+ Y
如果佢存在, 點解你唔直接問佢呢?  

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Originally posted by vivienna at 2005-6-4 12:41 PM:) J% X3 S" _; q/ h5 y+ g+ m3 Q

0 g3 N( l6 n5 M3 k; L; E! vsing sing, from a christian's point of view, dying is a way to reach heaven faster, they like dying more than anyone does. no kidding.

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oh really?  i don't think in this way wor... i have a lot of things to do, a lot of people to love.. to preach the gospel. 耶穌未返嚟, 唔好偷懶喎3 P5 X' R- m/ `1 s: _3 q& u
pls don't over-generalize things.. and don't speak for others.

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Originally posted by vivienna at 2005-6-4 12:47 PM:+ q8 d1 e$ L/ T7 a
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God arranged the Tsunami on purpo...

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:57 PM:/ q9 \+ P; \0 M0 M7 d* h7 e9 u
如果佢真係唔存在, 我会心安理得...

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停留喺自己嘅空想, or同其他人傾, 作用不大, 你都係自己鬧神一餐, 然後聽吓佢點講好D

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基督教的”排他性”之強, 可說是主流宗教之中數一數二的.  這是基督教信仰內容的一部分.  信徒在堅守”獨一”這個前提之下, 如何與其他信仰的人相處, 實在是一個值得思的課題.  如果處理不妥當, 往往令人反感, 長洲踩場事件就是個例子.  然而另一方面, ”獨一”又是一條不容妥協的底線, 所以每當討論觸及教義的時候, 衝突有時是難免的.7 g, ~8 X! Y/ ~9 C
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我認為最重要是保持理性, 和互相尊重的態度.  反正我們不是比劍, 大家都交換意見就夠了.  不用互相批評對方.  T$ s1 @$ k* ]- M$ X" `
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相信forum當中, 以至無數非基督徒都曾經被基督徒”激親”, 希望基督徒都能夠明白別人的感受, 而非基督徒亦理解對方的立場.  大家講完就算.