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我會好多謝佢咁早俾我認識佢.  俾我明白我喺呢個世界只係度過幾十年, 甚至更短嘅客旅生活.  俾我明白將來我會去邊度.  無論開心, 唔開心嘅事, 佢都陪伴我一齊經過.

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Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:8 B# C' g. ?# P( G$ v& l! z7 D6 X
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?- @" v% j' c7 U1 G. l
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
7 _) k2 l4 y0 ?9 F" vwhy this happen? just simple........punishment$ b' Y* k, y1 l% a$ j7 f
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ' l2 r% L9 @8 l- ?; Z
but why jesus need to do this?
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for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus6 b7 m3 S  _. x$ E5 I3 {
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers" Y3 J& O% |- K) z. L$ C) Z
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,   ?8 c6 y! Z4 V# I! c: b

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, R5 W  W6 G3 f) Ksorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

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Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
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honestly, if there is jesus) J! u) _, V3 B% t/ @0 Z& Q
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
6 N) C& D  ?* Lwe can't blow him :cool:

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) v; V7 M$ b) {3 Hunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:6 p5 d" c% H& q3 [0 M) G  D  f2 M# x
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool:

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His purpose is for his own fun and entertainment??

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Are you sure that there was no innocent christian that had died from the Tsunami??

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2 _' h+ h8 x9 J% nthat's the point... you can think of 1,000,000 reasons (including punishment,  for fun and entertainment).. but so far no evidence... so i will keep saying that:  "i don't know", and infact i only care about the people, what we could do the help them..
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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:21 PM:+ C2 d# S2 ^/ e& n) t1 ?1 n
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) A/ B( E# r; t: O8 k0 m; o) `, F$ @For sure we'll never know his purpose. But this is something that he had done, or could have prevented if he does exist.

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如果佢唔存在, 你問緊mud? 問點解一個唔存在嘅神, 無按你嘅心意去行事?
& Z/ }1 u. ?$ P& Q如果佢存在, 點解你唔直接問佢呢?  

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Originally posted by vivienna at 2005-6-4 12:41 PM:3 q" m" p; d# f  A0 |7 L1 [

; v$ K5 @, ~4 V" U5 ]sing sing, from a christian's point of view, dying is a way to reach heaven faster, they like dying more than anyone does. no kidding.

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oh really?  i don't think in this way wor... i have a lot of things to do, a lot of people to love.. to preach the gospel. 耶穌未返嚟, 唔好偷懶喎
5 D) u: ~# Q4 D2 k- T6 @- a4 Wpls don't over-generalize things.. and don't speak for others.

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Originally posted by vivienna at 2005-6-4 12:47 PM:2 B1 q. A6 H: C' X! e, R4 }
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God arranged the Tsunami on purpo...

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what???? ...

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:57 PM:
# k0 f# b7 \- u3 r1 w如果佢真係唔存在, 我会心安理得...

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/ u7 s3 L8 v% L9 q* G停留喺自己嘅空想, or同其他人傾, 作用不大, 你都係自己鬧神一餐, 然後聽吓佢點講好D

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基督教的”排他性”之強, 可說是主流宗教之中數一數二的.  這是基督教信仰內容的一部分.  信徒在堅守”獨一”這個前提之下, 如何與其他信仰的人相處, 實在是一個值得思的課題.  如果處理不妥當, 往往令人反感, 長洲踩場事件就是個例子.  然而另一方面, ”獨一”又是一條不容妥協的底線, 所以每當討論觸及教義的時候, 衝突有時是難免的.% {5 [  k# L; `2 Q

" T9 I6 |/ [/ V) L我認為最重要是保持理性, 和互相尊重的態度.  反正我們不是比劍, 大家都交換意見就夠了.  不用互相批評對方.3 S, J$ ]6 ~4 e" X+ q1 P( V8 d

. U+ P7 Q3 Z" D7 ~5 b; A: {相信forum當中, 以至無數非基督徒都曾經被基督徒”激親”, 希望基督徒都能夠明白別人的感受, 而非基督徒亦理解對方的立場.  大家講完就算.