singgeihot

Originally posted by fatfatdragon at 2005-7-6 01:49 PM:
sing sing,

希望你看見這 post.  ... 生性閒散, 好怕有公職在身

發仔你呢句正係我嘅心聲, 【飲食天地】上咗軌道, 有多 d 人幫手, 我都想功成身退.
不過有咗十仔, 【飲食天地】 真係好似起死回生咁

singgeihot

Originally posted by fatfatdragon at 2005-7-7 09:40 AM:
十仔, 下面一段說話可能好唔啱聽, 希...

Fat Fat, the following is my response to Sohozhk 前輩.

I have also given it some thoughts. This is why I added the following message in the 加分守則 of 【飲食天地】 - "可以嘅話, 請提供資料嘅來源, 以增加資料嘅可信性", and I also suggested members to post the following statement along with their postings - "以上資料只供參考, 詳情請咨詢醫生, 註冊營養師, 或其他相關嘅專業人仕".

I have actually thought of removing 健康飲食資訊 as one of the 加分題 of 【飲食天地】. But this won't solve the problem as members have been posting the so-called "健康資訊" long before the establishment of 【飲食天地】.

Here are my suggestions:

1) We can suggest the moderators not to give points to (or even deduct points from) members who are posting 健康飲食資訊 without giving the source of the information.

2) We can also suggest members to consult their doctors or registered nutritionist before they practice anything that is being posted here.


In 【飲食天地】, I have previously posted the following comments:

講開又講, 早排响度睇到一 d 健康資訊轉貼, 有d 我真係不敢苟同, 大家要明白, 好多記者對科学一知半解, 憑一兩個研究報告就响報紙度斷章取義, 嘩眾取寵, 信與唔信就要用吓閣下嘅智慧喇

再者睇研究報告唔係淨係睇 result, 仲要睇埋個 experimental design, 個 design 有問題, d result 點可靠?? 好多時個設計係会 biased, 或者 sample size 太細, 總之呢 d 問題係存在, 我都見唔少.

你会問, 有問題嘅話, 點公佈呀? 呢個就係 how the science community work. 公佈出嚟俾其他科学家參考, 自然就会有另一 group 科学家寫另一份報告去支持或反對, 然後再去研究.

有一篇叫 “癌細胞最愛吃用微波爐煮熱的食物” 嘅文章裡面提到用微波爐嘅害處, 有 d 真係幾離譜.

舉個例, Nitrosamine 係致癌, 但係放塊肉入微波爐会產生幾多 nitrosamine 呢? 第一, 有冇都成問題, 第二, 就算有, 份量比起一塊煙肉或香腸嚟講就一定会少得多, 如果你敢食煙肉香腸, 咁就唔好丟咗屋企部微波爐喇.

singgeihot

Originally posted by tenmadio at 2005-7-7 10:47 AM:
sing sing, need help?  
i am starting to get confuse too, don't know how to reply other members, plz help me..

don't respond to the 健康飲食資訊 topics, only respond to the recipe and cooking topics.

singgeihot

Originally posted by sohozhk at 2005-7-7 10:07 AM:
近日發現有若干的網友在飲食健康欄內... 無論是作者所依據的資訊有誤、失實也好，或甚至是作者的惡作劇，或純粹無惡意的吹水，本版為免日後發生同類事件，應儘快採取行動，因為不能依靠網友去界定吹水版的內容，那些是吹水，那些是認真，在吹水版內的就應作最壞打算，全部屬於吹水一類，以確保不會有人在吹水版內，因為不一定真實而認真的資訊蒙受傷害。

Another thing that I would like to point out is that these things do happen in real life too, but not only in 吹水版. For example, my aunt was hearing some false nutritional information, and she was passing them to my mother. Fortunately, my mother informed me about them, and I was able to correct her and my aunt. The best that we could do is not to encourage people from distributing information that cannot be verified. We can't really stop them however........ which is sad, but this is life.......

[ Last edited by singgeihot on 2005-7-7 at 11:08 AM ]

singgeihot

Originally posted by tenmadio at 2005-7-7 11:07 AM:



agree with you sing sing    
I have recently encourage too much false info,
給了大家那麼多問題, 十仔極端抱歉!!!
sorry sing sing

No worries, 十仔. This is totally not your fault. No need to blame yourself
On the other hand, I'm very glad that Sohozhk 前輩 had brought up the issue though

singgeihot

tenten & fatfat, what are your opinions on the following proposals to solve the current problem:

1) We can suggest the moderators not to give point(s) to members who are posting 健康飲食資訊 without a verifiable source. If they agree, then this rule will be stated clearly in 【飲食天地】. We can also suggest members to consult their doctors or registered nutritionist before they practice anything that is being posted here.

2) Remove 健康飲食資訊 as one of 【飲食天地】's 加分題. We'll focus on cooking tips, recipes, and restaurant guides only.

Please let me know what you think and we'll go from there. Thanks

singgeihot

Originally posted by tenmadio at 2005-7-7 12:11 PM:



agree, although not giving po...

cooking is different. people have the choice not to cook something or not to eat something. but then we wouldn't want members to promote some "healthy" diet tips that are actually detrimental to their health. this is the major difference.

let me know what you think

singgeihot

tenten, i'll be back tomorrow. please follow up on this issue, and leave me a message here if there's anything urgent. thanks and cheers

thank you very much once again for the great work. when you are doing something good, there would always some obstacles. so, don't be discouraged

singgeihot

Originally posted by Gretzky at 2005-7-7 12:25 PM:
Read the comments above...let's be ...

i strongly agree. but this won't prevent other members from posting such information. indeed, members had been posting inaccurate information long before the establishment of 【飲食天地】, and had been rewarded with points.

singgeihot

Originally posted by tenmadio at 2005-7-7 12:32 PM:



maybe we could ask moderators to subtract points to members who doesn't have doctor/nutrients approved that those are correct information

well, at least not add points to the ones that continue to post.