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司馬懿

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:24:
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, S7 [: G, L( C) X唔計司馬懿呢？

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姜維

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:25:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->姜維

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:32:
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! V- U% a' n; H, ?, |4 }7 lbut i think智慧: 諸葛亮-->司...

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2 T' V7 N8 H" f6 X% k* E4 [( P* ?Agree.  But now is 諸葛亮死後最厲害既人物.  Thus all ability of the person should be consider.
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->" h4 A6 c/ I, u( }' c

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9 A' p3 G8 c" b, Z政治才能：司馬懿--->諸葛亮-->鄧艾--->陸遜--->姜維
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:39:! h2 Z% ~( r2 v  H+ s) s( J) h1 r
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第一五分，第五一分
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2 v' }  t/ u5 m6 I0 S/ b. L" I諸葛亮：5+5+4+1=15
5 P: l' b) G! E9 z9 `+ [- {司馬懿：4+4+5+3=16& [$ E2 L0 Z4 X
鄧艾：1+2+3+4=10
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7 }8 v9 C' y' g5 k9 r0 f* p0 W1 \智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮
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Thus 姜維 is the best.  You said no 司馬懿.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:3 h& K0 M3 \8 }5 A9 m
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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6 |' e: Q( D. Z6 s: `  IBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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# Z$ N' O  Z% T: t+ w其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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# i7 b5 v0 H# @' sAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:9 V) N" j: |5 R2 ?: y) T+ I

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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