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司馬懿

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:24:3 K# S- A/ \, w$ V; T: H

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唔計司馬懿呢？

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姜維

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:25:. r0 H  F! Q# e1 |7 d
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why?

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:32:
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0 d  f: w  w0 h: Z% ~3 Qbut i think智慧: 諸葛亮-->司...

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Agree.  But now is 諸葛亮死後最厲害既人物.  Thus all ability of the person should be consider.
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0 t3 ]6 V: }1 A: k7 y智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->9 N8 I1 L% W; ~  O9 T) v  h
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維  p1 q; W/ i. M1 @8 R0 g

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0 A1 Z2 g2 n7 B& ]1 D% V' m) m4 v. |打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮
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Thus 姜維 is the best. If 司馬懿 is excluded.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:39:( T! S7 F4 }( L3 d; l
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第一五分，第五一分
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諸葛亮：5+5+4+1=15. J1 h7 O# k. C3 S. P, J8 {
司馬懿：4+4+5+3=163 Y( k  X0 v  O1 I! r, F" v! {
鄧艾：1+2+3+4=10
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陸遜：3+3+2+2=10

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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Thus 姜維 is the best.  You said no 司馬懿.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:0 X. c, I' l- w) {& b- I
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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! v" _2 U% J9 J4 M2 {  |But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->! \- y0 f6 G* ?" L; v1 @; k0 }

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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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. V' a8 y+ M8 w他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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. c, |' W6 G' \5 v1 D他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.