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司馬懿

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:24:
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唔計司馬懿呢？

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:25:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->姜維

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:32:
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but i think智慧: 諸葛亮-->司...

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Agree.  But now is 諸葛亮死後最厲害既人物.  Thus all ability of the person should be consider.
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->/ e8 Q2 e3 O" x  T! `

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政治才能：司馬懿--->諸葛亮-->鄧艾--->陸遜--->姜維
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮
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Thus 姜維 is the best. If 司馬懿 is excluded.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:39:+ C: l: C% m+ O$ u5 R" j& r
Just I think
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司馬懿：4+4+5+3=162 J" R% v$ d/ `. y3 y8 w) y' j4 \
鄧艾：1+2+3+4=10- F. B; t! n' O
姜維：2+1+1+5=9. g. G! u8 R; s: v$ ~+ T
陸遜：3+3+2+2=10

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Thus 姜維 is the best.  You said no 司馬懿.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:5 [2 L+ L1 v1 M+ C
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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( Y1 ^9 \2 [3 s其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:& p2 v+ W. I+ C

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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