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司馬懿

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:24:
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. O9 R6 w* Y5 Q4 I* A" P! y唔計司馬懿呢？

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姜維

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:25:
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why?

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智慧高之餘﹐又打得
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/ V4 B4 y8 b  b* u7 `4 A智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->姜維

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:32:4 C: Z7 U% z) c+ ~% t- D3 X8 n

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but i think智慧: 諸葛亮-->司...

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, A4 n. q1 O) A) P9 ~Agree.  But now is 諸葛亮死後最厲害既人物.  Thus all ability of the person should be consider.
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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: s4 ~* U3 |# b6 BThus 姜維 is the best. If 司馬懿 is excluded.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:39:
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9 u* R2 J8 J7 l. n+ J) |諸葛亮：5+5+4+1=15
  ^9 R, y; p, a0 M, n8 r8 [司馬懿：4+4+5+3=165 p  e- \' o8 W6 [9 C/ T$ H
鄧艾：1+2+3+4=10" f% Y0 N0 J3 B
姜維：2+1+1+5=9
4 K& R  r5 z6 Q陸遜：3+3+2+2=10

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- i# b+ F$ J$ }$ {$ uThus 姜維 is the best.  You said no 司馬懿.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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7 F9 D& m0 u, @' [# |9 I! q! ~but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.! I7 f8 O/ X* T) s% s3 T
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:& H. y4 U5 Q+ f1 G: E
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) B5 r2 m* u+ |. p) T- ~+ ~" J其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.+ j; }6 }  [4 a0 c5 P
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:* t' x( y8 h! c& a4 S7 F

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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