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司馬懿

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:24:
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姜維

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:25:
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智慧高之餘﹐又打得/ C. |5 _8 V+ S) b% O! i9 ?

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:32:" b3 d; B$ n9 K; E

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but i think智慧: 諸葛亮-->司...

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/ y2 R6 o3 A2 K9 sAgree.  But now is 諸葛亮死後最厲害既人物.  Thus all ability of the person should be consider.: Y/ P' D! O" G% a2 y. Y! E

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" [, S% r9 Z# h3 K智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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6 P- q. `7 c* X  |軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：司馬懿--->諸葛亮-->鄧艾--->陸遜--->姜維
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Thus 姜維 is the best. If 司馬懿 is excluded.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:39:# s' O5 q* u3 g+ T/ Y. `  S0 C  b
Just I think
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諸葛亮：5+5+4+1=158 z6 c+ Q; Q" M: ^3 Z% a, P
司馬懿：4+4+5+3=165 S. p- R2 _8 G6 _0 T, L
鄧艾：1+2+3+4=10
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陸遜：3+3+2+2=10

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->4 r7 u3 s" z( z" {  V
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維7 g% U6 M  ]0 x7 G

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮* ?0 K7 V! j" h/ W: Z0 |

0 l! E5 q$ K0 j6 S" N7 BThus 姜維 is the best.  You said no 司馬懿.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:: ], q2 e" C, V' h

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7 U3 e/ A4 }- M, y9 R; u7 sBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.2 I+ G# P. M' R5 C! x+ S! z# F. t
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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5 P$ e9 v9 M" t  cAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:8 q9 I& N# k5 [( o2 P
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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