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Originally posted by nashisthebestpg at 2006-1-30 13:22:
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佢輸俾鄧艾鍾會幾次ga bo...........

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實力差不多

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Originally posted by hung414 at 2006-1-30 21:08:
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  U! Y2 l2 _6 J1 L  d4 I! Pyes...he was the great one to unified Chinese

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但孔明剛死時他才１３歲，怎能跟其他人比？

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:22:
7 N: U0 ^, @- x4 N司馬懿

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唔計司馬懿呢？

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:25:6 M% v9 S" R  q! R
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姜維

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:28:5 d- S! N, H# m. A" N3 e

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智慧高之餘﹐又打得
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->姜維

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but i think智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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; b5 E' @6 J# O  m軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->鄧艾--->姜維* P& F! {7 E, I( c5 |

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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Just I think. N' w  Z2 d$ }* y* v
第一五分，第五一分( U5 u- `$ W, s1 z$ g

9 R; k. E; H) D4 l諸葛亮：5+5+4+1=15
6 }# r: ?" g( C) R- R) r3 J司馬懿：4+4+5+3=16
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4 K% G+ |6 u$ K, F: _& l姜維：2+1+1+5=96 r4 S: \" c1 _) W- N8 k% i
陸遜：3+3+2+2=10

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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) I) j; s( Z# s' l9 b智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
/ s' d/ k/ O5 ]# LIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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5 x6 B  E3 P8 S0 h' l" mAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機