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Originally posted by nashisthebestpg at 2006-1-30 13:22:4 g! t6 ~7 ]! d1 {7 l& Q* P
姜維真係咁勁?
, P7 X1 l  y; u; b6 I佢輸俾鄧艾鍾會幾次ga bo...........

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2 q' B9 p3 j; v# B* t實力差不多

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Originally posted by hung414 at 2006-1-30 21:08:9 S1 v1 H+ Q/ v: L

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: L5 ]; }$ h( z" `7 U  Uyes...he was the great one to unified Chinese

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8 {# H: ~0 r0 B% M' V4 D- ]但孔明剛死時他才１３歲，怎能跟其他人比？

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:22:* Z& r+ u3 U8 C# R3 b2 c4 }) Z
司馬懿

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" ~( r9 ^6 T6 h7 B7 G1 [4 ?唔計司馬懿呢？

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:25:
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$ L6 B! @" l* b$ E姜維

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why?

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:28:6 @# g9 x. l! B; {- s/ t+ e
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9 J2 k# N" M3 D; A. ^* }5 s7 I智慧高之餘﹐又打得# H8 O* u2 d% [3 b* u

% d4 r/ D# w  D5 l. t智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->姜維

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/ \) m# t9 K' G9 b8 Ubut i think智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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9 d" a/ c. S: z( Y  \8 n軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->鄧艾--->姜維. V% ?/ e1 x5 n# ]& ^( P! Z

1 I: W# A0 m7 U政治才能：司馬懿--->諸葛亮-->鄧艾--->陸遜--->姜維
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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Just I think5 }& X* J( @" D3 V0 N9 [8 v
第一五分，第五一分
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諸葛亮：5+5+4+1=15; {- t7 M/ ?( }: a+ ^1 e; F
司馬懿：4+4+5+3=166 L0 Z6 z! D2 `. G
鄧艾：1+2+3+4=10
9 C3 `% U8 A; J2 p& D姜維：2+1+1+5=9
& J0 Z" `# j. J( m2 u4 d; z陸遜：3+3+2+2=10

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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, W& V3 D% x! X" x+ u  S其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
, ~' g! S5 p1 cIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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" {% ]- Z4 p' W* _Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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7 Q; I4 I  h6 g- B& w: G4 X$ z% U* u他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機