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Originally posted by nashisthebestpg at 2006-1-30 13:22:; s4 Y  N/ D* t: C( Y5 Y; _
姜維真係咁勁?
5 v2 V2 z8 `; e2 z佢輸俾鄧艾鍾會幾次ga bo...........

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0 V  D' N0 [8 {; F; s實力差不多

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Originally posted by hung414 at 2006-1-30 21:08:$ ~% R! C5 [! @0 @& x$ w. C

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但孔明剛死時他才１３歲，怎能跟其他人比？

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:22:; h! l: s/ N' Z" z$ s
司馬懿

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唔計司馬懿呢？

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:25:; h& U: X: e: i$ H# h" E

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:28:1 d8 B- P% d: |6 g# |+ S

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智慧高之餘﹐又打得$ @8 i: ]; R, ]: J
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->姜維

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. X8 ^$ {& s/ M, m5 [& obut i think智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->) ]# ?, H$ U; r1 n

$ G6 U1 X% [' w3 h6 [軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->鄧艾--->姜維2 v2 P, s) t) o  \: C( M' m
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政治才能：司馬懿--->諸葛亮-->鄧艾--->陸遜--->姜維
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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第一五分，第五一分
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諸葛亮：5+5+4+1=151 S4 [% O, ]) Q: \* M
司馬懿：4+4+5+3=16
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  b  u. g% k4 _/ F. _姜維：2+1+1+5=9
4 u( B4 R( i( p. b" o陸遜：3+3+2+2=10

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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  J! E, m# A& Q8 W0 Y. bBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
9 P2 x. I4 J: r' y7 Z/ l$ J# X) _% `' wIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:3 c  K5 O. F) S* x+ M# v8 w4 Y
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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3 s, ^1 m! o5 _" P$ [他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機