jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
+ g& I3 W/ a! V6 R仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架$ a/ n: S2 y- O* D4 Q
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& L$ v* T4 }7 Sbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
/ ^8 C: u) }  U. i8 fcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
3 W7 [3 O# I4 Lwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
1 ?+ Y; N$ b- amany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things , M: u2 u2 i% w: O: U5 s( B( x
but why jesus need to do this?
/ A, k/ O$ d3 Y9 a* Y4 }& x0 Dpunsihment for what???0 Q' k' b! a5 _; P# C' F
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus( m/ H/ o: o7 Z) G) |
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers0 f/ Q5 s" b4 }! x, K
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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+ L0 O# `1 N$ Ljust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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! G; I- v! W# Ryes, what did u think is what i...

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1 X* s& I* a0 q. k# M咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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$ [( V; H( A4 y$ O* E# j咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
2 `* R, ?+ w4 Nbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?4 l+ C8 l3 W3 b" ?) c5 }
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
& E; c2 a. B) pwhy this happen? just simple........punishment$ Q2 I3 ^& W% L1 Z- l9 K3 ?
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things $ D! V1 ]  O9 A0 L
but why jesus need to do this?0 _1 c. K0 Y1 o; A( }
punsihment for what???# j( g/ ^2 k% [6 V8 q  }1 C
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus8 p; P. Y3 y9 u+ Z
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers. ~7 ]# E* U( A2 x7 U/ U6 o1 h
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u * Q+ Z8 @4 w0 c. E. T9 o
what will u do???" C# E4 k( X' m0 Q+ P. E
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, ) z' [1 l4 B: k2 S8 g: b8 S

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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6 N7 [* |; [4 I' ^0 J, O& mbro, did u know that there is a...

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$ D. x( M. i& F4 P# ^& d. i6 F2 T好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 , X& W5 Z% i, j$ j- ^

( H* F$ Y, u+ F/ T- a5 P" o- @議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days( }5 d; F4 \( ^4 W8 U
honestly, if there is jesus
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we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:! R& I$ f7 P, d+ T

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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9 H, X9 R- F4 S0 Y( o) kyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
, K3 @& @- o/ J4 Ujust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it! V3 {7 Z( K9 o# X% I$ C
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......% O! L' E  w: G$ `5 v, ?& ]) V
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:# d: f( t- q& J# h0 J
bro singgeihot and rest365days2 g$ K' T5 }, o- z  N% R. ~
honestly, if there is jesus
# s8 k# W  u: U% ?1 u5 _# Ehe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus( h& M# F  z5 Y* P6 q
we can't blow him :cool:

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3 ?6 u+ C( t7 R: @; v" Runderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics0 A, Q8 F" C" Z: L
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
, X) W* v8 o2 ^6 t4 Q1 R自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: