jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:/ @$ I$ F6 t0 }
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架& f6 O7 X  o  \5 Q9 ]5 ]6 f! \- o( z
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
2 ]6 O. e1 ~& }9 Icomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case0 ~! M4 t7 L3 O- h9 f; r2 d; C
why this happen? just simple........punishment
- A7 ?9 T+ o$ V( y0 qmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 3 d  n/ v8 @# @4 A3 ]: l, Z
but why jesus need to do this?6 x' ?1 P- q+ ]5 [0 }
punsihment for what???
) p% v( T$ R& B% l8 rfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus1 `4 `2 T# U9 ?( A% K4 x
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers3 t3 Y% F0 x: w# x2 F$ n% L
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
! p' w$ A& x' }. t) X' Z8 Ywhat will u do???, t# @# k: K7 I, j
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:( a. K, [& `( r, d" |

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yes, what did u think is what i...

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8 `0 F9 N- C8 f* D" s/ v# I咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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! N2 d+ B$ f" C3 i# f5 [但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
, f5 F& a/ s7 k: x' M& Ebro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
! D- J/ R% S  U& @# ^: ycomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case8 U" J9 w$ P* i% j7 z
why this happen? just simple........punishment6 Z3 t- p1 I/ E/ x8 |$ I$ P* O5 R
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things # ~/ w' O5 F8 e
but why jesus need to do this?) A- X. F: h1 J8 g" x3 o
punsihment for what???
7 V) E( J" j  E' `for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
$ u$ M/ m6 d( [8 }& m, otry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers9 c" n( H" Y( ]
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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# Z9 U- v+ e) X5 t  g. Ijust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:, D$ T5 G1 ]2 Y8 b

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  T  c4 Y1 C1 E( lbro, did u know that there is a...

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4 ]0 D% v) B6 q" C8 S+ R. ~4 ], Z好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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2 e( {9 z% y6 q# l0 N議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days' P- \* e. e( Q. ^# E! q
honestly, if there is jesus, j) J# Q/ _  U9 ]' D1 L% ?2 d3 [
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus: J* P8 T, a- c% q5 J3 |
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:4 g5 P% ?* G( t

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life* n" e1 O- g5 L- M0 T% D" d3 _, v
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it6 c* R8 k# i1 x% u2 n% \6 q
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
3 W. {9 o6 q7 n+ V" Q4 Y3 ~now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
2 I5 V* y: q) b8 C( P/ P# gbro singgeihot and rest365days
" A" m) m6 K! `4 ohonestly, if there is jesus+ J+ L# N: k: a4 v) C. X( d
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
( G8 @2 m2 |; V) q7 Hwe can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
# _  B4 L& ]6 Y& U' botherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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) Z  z: j8 ^# {5 uhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: