jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:/ \& W4 t. h: S$ A" x
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架2 g2 _" t4 s1 j% `2 }7 C
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1 u- k$ ]6 A& F  t8 R/ Vbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?& q9 u& w' i3 Z5 O2 O" v
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case8 e$ `" x% ?7 @( u# J% y
why this happen? just simple........punishment2 z! X% O( {4 K' d& E( W
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
) I6 N: E) a6 {9 ]" z- I* fbut why jesus need to do this?; Q# y3 \1 S4 A5 o! m2 n0 O
punsihment for what???9 a7 {5 C( d2 Y- `" s4 v5 U
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
; c% |- q) F) Q* P: {6 W& ]try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
3 k' D! Q+ L) A& B/ z. ~but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉9 }( _! C  R# v( V8 `! ?5 M3 s7 \# ?

6 C6 Y, U+ C# g但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排% O: ]" B; U( y: D8 x  Z
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
) }/ s( D  N+ S0 L( w7 M/ |, hbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?; W% e) z4 [  m
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case. q/ u$ f8 C, @3 Q1 s; p
why this happen? just simple........punishment- g+ G# ]! _6 j  b! P  @
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things , P# h9 Q; }$ c- W1 Y$ a2 v7 P# A
but why jesus need to do this?
" T. v5 N; K: \9 {) A/ _punsihment for what???; A9 a& f. f3 g2 m, ^
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus0 r, {" w, t; `0 ^6 n$ c. D$ e4 e
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers+ O* |* N7 B& [3 F  \8 u& U. q& X0 Y
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u : P/ C% l8 S' K( j4 X
what will u do???
( U8 k, t- h; G! `$ T. r8 }6 C& ejust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, ) K, \: r0 g1 W' `5 H

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% N" k* V- s, ?) E0 o2 z( I& usorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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9 u4 C2 L' H2 T, |: Q8 f% J  L/ qbro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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7 V% ?  ?# x; ~9 [+ P' C2 a議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
5 [: n2 D- q( v4 chonestly, if there is jesus3 r; R/ m$ s1 ?/ j, N
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
2 E* @3 o4 J# W8 V- [we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:0 B+ u2 A) R, w  f3 _  F4 w
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
. x( S: a8 C" m! h  q# L2 c1 ejust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it7 {) L2 ?& V6 v, S; l* @4 Z1 M
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
4 f( c! j2 m4 Z# y& ]' Cnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:/ ]; R0 o0 S, ~1 T
bro singgeihot and rest365days) r$ K4 S" S8 m( X" P, y& v0 e* I/ Y) G8 l
honestly, if there is jesus- p- D, p6 [3 I8 x9 I
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus9 d% w( j) t: ~) u
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
$ z& s( y4 h8 c0 v9 e  motherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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: Y7 M  x- X$ o( a& M/ p/ ]5 \haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: