jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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5 @& ~7 K* X  X/ v0 Hbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
! u, g1 }. _7 V; Y" hcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
) A# b; i9 V3 T0 @$ T8 Z" iwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
, n9 u# m* r! w2 wmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
* r( N3 t, A( D4 ibut why jesus need to do this?
& o- Q3 C) P2 g8 k! A( apunsihment for what???+ A4 ~9 n( |. l4 O! I& k0 W
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus9 B% c' k- V7 i9 \
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers  k4 e9 s1 e- E% _0 J0 v! M
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 0 n' _/ Q1 ^& d
what will u do???* R( g' ~  d* w! r
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:. [% y. o! e) w5 g+ ~

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1 I) i$ P$ x9 \" N  t咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排" @0 l9 \- l% V# Q2 u

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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:( t  P3 O2 y7 h8 W4 g0 X
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
+ r  U* v% N9 ?" ]' u) vcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
  @3 r( W' X0 D1 nwhy this happen? just simple........punishment9 U) ^: w8 |, ~. ?# e$ B. `
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ) @9 e5 V" e8 g# T; t9 E3 Y, }( A
but why jesus need to do this?
+ t0 n* a; y! L! Ipunsihment for what???1 N: \0 ?1 w. ?
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
5 b( D/ p5 C) l7 T( @4 Stry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers8 G# B, }6 z0 S2 ^) @# D* S1 w  t
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
9 G6 @; ~7 D; Vwhat will u do???
; K! R9 U9 F4 O# {8 [; h; W8 Hjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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6 [9 u8 {# |9 a5 Z) Kbro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
  ]( [/ D4 q4 S. U; {2 Bhonestly, if there is jesus
5 h* P; H9 j: E4 m  V+ fhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
/ z6 b$ K, j3 X$ a, y0 g) ewe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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2 @+ [7 r+ Q! a" e, u好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life  r; Q& t6 ], |
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it( \8 ?4 D& n( J: j- k5 `* T
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
. A, q1 C! o9 X* Ynow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
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honestly, if there is jesus' A8 H( ^/ m1 {6 m
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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6 X5 p, |" v: I6 P3 ^understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics% g0 h# Z# K+ Y. {9 s! z7 \
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:: K1 S: t7 O" s
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: