jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
7 ]$ ?: ~6 C1 X9 U/ q' O. h4 x仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
' `0 n7 t, ]3 e' o' Z/ i& x...

7 o( p: f& W9 p( f/ C" l5 z+ a% @( W! e
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?& e4 t( H2 L: L" O# y
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case; D- L% ?: w  C9 {7 Y4 l( ?* M& s
why this happen? just simple........punishment; F. p+ E% m1 I; r0 w
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
9 H% ]$ m) P; z* u1 |: obut why jesus need to do this?
" F* E+ t; J- qpunsihment for what???# [+ U0 U* q5 J! H/ a+ b6 u
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
( X5 z; @. R/ s; D- a" M; j: ptry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
8 ^- [4 _: E3 f% O7 Zbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
6 F3 l5 m! k1 l; B4 b+ B& q3 Uwhat will u do???
" O0 S! ]; G4 O+ @6 t8 u1 @" ~just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
9 v& {$ {# S" D/ [7 L& n/ Q
1 U: Q+ H3 @' w" }0 p  T
7 {0 n0 P% H* L; u3 Lyes, what did u think is what i...

3 j5 ], @$ v! C0 N  J, }; N8 d( P# b
咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉% s. q. c9 N, O: t; q4 z+ X; l9 c
9 Z9 |- k& f! _) c( O+ X* r
但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
" k2 Y2 M$ p! D
7 k4 V. O/ r! a& t7 n' O  ~咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:7 m& L: X  u( V; |1 S2 n
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
( e( ]3 y- D1 \+ tcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
7 E# m' e) V& O! j# K. hwhy this happen? just simple........punishment$ p1 q: y3 @0 n5 G: f" t
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 2 l6 j2 S/ c" w& F1 [1 D  T7 r
but why jesus need to do this?" P5 Y! ]/ Z! A! m" Q/ [0 Q
punsihment for what???- N$ [% ~' `5 l) d# @* r
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus1 O3 p3 o9 s& u& u6 e8 L3 A
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
2 m0 U$ ~: D4 G9 \7 a2 tbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u ( c8 J7 e' W9 h4 m- b  [/ G4 H( v
what will u do???
* c+ O3 [  Z0 h- G0 rjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
5 G4 ]9 S/ w; b, H4 W, I$ I" Q' z

, n0 R2 h; }( r) T/ C" i" s) \6 G% B, F5 Y4 Y
sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
5 y% m) ]4 {9 b4 ^# |; R2 {5 d6 j( z( M# M  w2 |6 c
. f9 ?: T' z+ c; q
bro, did u know that there is a...

9 l+ z* l1 ]) B$ A8 _' _  o+ j- U$ i5 n7 W+ W& v" r9 ]' C5 I, ]
5 v# v/ }2 T; R, m
好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 9 t& r( u4 d7 x
' a# H. e9 X8 {: |% b2 |' ?& w2 |* s0 D9 i
議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days5 {4 U, F  m; @+ f5 d/ I4 E
honestly, if there is jesus
; z. n/ U9 h6 u8 C( n) Dhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
5 G7 A3 F; M" w) wwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:6 v  ?3 N8 R# _8 ?  t0 q$ {, y* B9 u% W

/ U/ m, ^  _# p# V% V: s9 o1 ^1 m  ?/ e2 t! z$ I, ~) W
3 w* @& E& m) B
好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

  Y7 {' q. s7 m  N  a- |( W' _
; j3 e3 Z3 ~- K8 {' ~
yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
# W" I/ t" r/ K3 ?. P/ Fjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it% G4 x6 G4 O* B
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
1 b9 m) G, @* `. z, qnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:3 J2 v! J4 k! k
bro singgeihot and rest365days
2 i2 q2 L. N, s4 g& g0 [honestly, if there is jesus
6 d  k: X) j+ H+ @! Uhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
8 h9 u! @7 H$ L( P' `% f' f% y; [8 bwe can't blow him :cool:

9 w- H! x; }1 u2 R
7 l1 R$ B: C1 j/ o! n& s
understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics6 B0 k: k' }9 E0 Z$ r0 y
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
2 {% R6 B+ Z8 V2 P; p自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

7 m$ Y  [! X1 E% @0 I2 P* {
/ s% O2 ]6 u* [0 Phaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: