jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:  S% Y" L% T& v: m8 B+ q
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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4 }+ T! H. a9 ebro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
: X+ {9 W. x5 A& _" ~comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
8 K6 |9 q2 p% V! Z% B& E+ dwhy this happen? just simple........punishment% E3 X8 Z; w# M# M  X) p
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things # P- c) g  ^; f9 ^
but why jesus need to do this?1 k, |6 r" L1 f9 {0 `' Y. P8 V
punsihment for what???: N" {4 l, `/ l' A1 Q, k* B
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
  l* W" e9 B" n+ ^  t8 ?try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
' r7 U8 _8 Q3 B+ ]5 \0 A3 U* ibut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
+ d. W. m8 W; \1 ~. t: owhat will u do???+ k$ a7 t9 \& |" F9 Y: Y
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:; v( p+ F& C: ^3 R
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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉' F4 _% Z. J3 d' S: ]2 [( u0 C! E& e
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
8 ]; c: x7 r  Z) Lbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
7 S/ T5 a% z2 q) Wcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case& F' y! t7 \& i6 ?0 r, P
why this happen? just simple........punishment+ W) Z+ f; C: E9 e1 V& M2 S
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things / z  l; A* m9 E
but why jesus need to do this?
) c+ E# g8 Q) y* d# I8 J8 j* zpunsihment for what???
% o7 C3 [0 y0 a+ Cfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
* f* _. U) X  c7 m! L2 Btry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers( ]1 _& _' V* y
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
& z% j, ]5 l+ p, I! K; Twhat will u do???6 t+ U8 Z$ e1 U& i% M
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 7 u8 S9 C( Z2 p7 Q

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& y% a8 ~, j6 U* b% u& |sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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6 {. n1 e+ K8 J. a. l# obro, did u know that there is a...

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8 G' h) ?$ d- Q. `: |好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
! @* O: f8 f  W: q# a8 b' ]honestly, if there is jesus
* K& K9 G, ~& O3 W; O* D9 y& P8 Qhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
5 Z8 @! u! m& E, S* e# A/ q0 \we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:  u( K. E( c) x5 E
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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% s& H+ U2 Y4 W; G: u$ f' F) X! qyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
8 P" c* G3 ?% |6 ]  P; i9 b0 vjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
% @' S% A4 S9 e6 l% U# {so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......  y! v1 r, Z  P/ \1 K. ^! D
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
' B$ g( L5 C: m/ _8 e, Bbro singgeihot and rest365days1 c% R! b/ ]- ^$ H7 X
honestly, if there is jesus
$ r6 H* G5 O& K1 khe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus2 c: i0 x- Q+ q. G
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
5 [" P1 Y4 Z8 i7 _otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
1 o3 a1 z+ t+ O: O9 s' q, r自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: