jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
" M' N- b# q+ O0 t仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?5 R8 p2 _( c5 a8 F% Q7 p
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
4 Z9 n; a& o; f4 Z. S1 rwhy this happen? just simple........punishment$ \( S6 v) C/ A- p8 z  [+ F
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
0 y. B# {- v; cbut why jesus need to do this?
& ]0 I; Z9 Z. z* ^8 L7 Epunsihment for what???
( _" c! g& c3 v7 g9 q* ^for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus8 F% B- k; b0 H6 c8 L
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers0 n; \3 E/ U# j! [! C3 B6 A
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u & N' Y1 v1 E& u  {0 h* c' n& s; \- U
what will u do???
' l* H/ [) D# C& ijust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:+ v/ @3 L3 r* ~! E

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6 E5 g/ `# F+ e4 \9 f+ ^3 c1 V咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排$ Z) Q: B  U8 J6 _! T
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
) j, U3 a7 l  q$ S) ubro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?0 p+ K1 P4 A& V+ a
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case4 t% C7 l1 e, D* E+ Z8 l! T$ A. s# v
why this happen? just simple........punishment: R9 F) ?* V, z! ^+ {) F
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
3 Z' }' \; _; e( z0 [but why jesus need to do this?
  x; y: M/ I; u" s& p2 qpunsihment for what???
3 ?: \) ^% v" S  K! ofor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
2 G- k- r/ h8 o2 gtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers# {/ L! B! S" g# ^9 o
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u / G. f- c7 ^2 Z& E' b( V
what will u do???
1 G! f+ Q" m# N9 E. x! Y- c5 ~just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 0 Q$ ^7 R* C2 I$ p4 w5 `# d

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6 d& D" G; i, _) ~" S& asorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:6 C7 [5 ]5 N. W

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4 }- Q3 x& z& n( ]1 ebro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 % D! K! B- o9 `% d+ w9 A

4 r3 v8 z9 b2 k4 g! Z7 d議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
' w" q" G. N9 Zhonestly, if there is jesus
. F8 l' W+ l2 K1 F) ?( C5 E3 [7 ahe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
" T$ ~* Y( w' i$ m/ bwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:/ o6 Z: Y& x4 p5 O" \

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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% E  ^8 ~' ?! a/ dyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
- ^) F" [: v8 X7 L& ^% V* Djust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it  R8 ^4 K% k  A9 p, e
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
9 L" D' ?6 n) ]* rnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
' Q, l$ C2 F8 ]+ p# F/ `bro singgeihot and rest365days% z5 B4 l* u& z
honestly, if there is jesus* o  f% x2 @  }6 S
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus3 |: d' ]. q7 n
we can't blow him :cool:

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  G2 W$ k% E  V0 P8 `! m! @# Munderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
1 r  J7 @0 \0 ^5 Aotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
4 z6 P. _9 c7 m) R4 @+ }+ H  E0 y自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: