singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 12:31 AM:! q8 g9 U* c0 K/ @+ S1 P: k8 n+ X: c

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多謝哂. 在我的定義中, "努力"係指一個人無論做佢鍾唔鍾意的事, 佢都會全力以赴. 好似<長今>咁, 就算叫佢洗碗, 幫宮女按摩, 佢都全力做好. 呢d就係"努力".3 `' o6 C5 @  k4 D) A$ t% L- }
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相反, 如果一個人有某方面天份, 但佢只係在這方面"努力", 做其他事就求求其其, 甚至有d事佢應該要做, 但係因為佢對呢樣野冇天份而唔去做, 佢都唔算係真正"努力".
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例如一個科學家佢對研究有天份同在這方面很努力, 但係佢表達能力極差, 如果佢唔"努力"改善表達能力, 佢都唔可以將d成果同其他人分享.

icefire

我覺天份90%, 努力10%
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就以會考數學緊講, 有d人真係唔洗溫書, 做幾年past paper就攞個A.

奇

有天份又努力再加運氣就更好

crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-26 03:00 AM:2 _" e1 w* t$ d) S

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um...
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haha, anyway, i can see your points, especialy "hard working can be trained by hard working" the idea is fresh to me
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$ b# Q/ w7 p+ d+ Igood to chat with u, more of this kind of topics will come, see you there~

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-26 01:57 PM:
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多謝哂. 在我的定義中, &quo ...

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hahhaa, 不用客氣7 r' e, T+ C: Q# P0 `' f

5 g2 k& y0 Q( t1 f9 v* c我明白你的觀點, 在小弟的定義中, 如果一個人平時不努力, 但遇到喜歡做的事會努力做, 那也算是努力了 7 X/ U' x1 V: j. V& H$ z2 Y1 e# n
以追女仔為例, 一個平日多懶的人, 也會出力追女孩子吧, 那也算是努力呀6 x3 ]5 F+ e" ^, I4 x
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哈哈, 有少少離題了, 不過最重要大家傾得開心

singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:44 PM:
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5 v  e$ ^$ F. \0 s9 M' p5 r哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.3 S) G$ _' U/ E7 r. G0 J

% h  Y; x2 H& i. x/ F. J( A哈哈, 我都有少少離題了.

jason williams

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:36 PM:
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haha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-27 01:53 AM:
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  L$ V$ ~/ `  u) d! J# @+ B哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力./ P0 \+ x( U! h6 q* h" w
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哈哈, 我都有少少離題了

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$ Z; e+ S- |  K- R! `: d7 b哈哈, 你努力時可能會發現了自己的天份呢
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& ]8 L" `) M$ m你有無試下答大義滅親果條呀, 都幾好玩嫁   <----- 哈哈, 剛發現你答了, 多謝支持
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crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-27 01:54 AM:
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7 F+ Q$ `- U# E4 H5 Qhaha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

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4 Q8 B0 O+ y0 uhaha, me 2, similar type of brain teasing topics will be made everyday (ideally)* m7 p# C% s) [/ ~/ `! E) T
pls enjoy
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( T8 t, i5 r+ F! t6 v7 F5 h& n, g' a$ Cagain, have u tried the 大義滅親 one? that's quite funny IMO / J8 \% k- I9 @8 m7 I* E
Give it a go if u have time

jason williams

haha, leave jor some comment about it la0 \+ i$ x$ ?3 D; @( g. l+ s
besides, crap! interest to ask u
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