Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
! X9 L9 V' r0 _9 Z, s9 R我係一個連自己都吳信的人1 I" `6 T1 L* Q2 G8 y) `! A3 \
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢6 |" u7 y  W, |) q, x2 E4 Y
道理我知道好多只係做吳到# s- B' D  C/ D& y7 M: E
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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$ t: u/ Z. G$ d& j) p. {+ W% O6 R9 ONobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!3 X- s' N: X; j5 u8 R

3 \! h% ^$ w) vNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....+ A/ o- T+ l0 e9 Q/ k
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge..../ L* B$ x: L, ~! h! T) m4 {! Y
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....8 ?  i* U1 G$ c7 k. w* P1 `' y" W$ @
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
$ a/ `; G, w2 |7 h我只不過微小的基督徒...................
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因為我是情感比理性強的人
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DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,8 P& V  _8 `2 P7 F
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,$ j4 v8 W* @2 D: r" J7 N# Y
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:& A2 S: E, }# a1 u
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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" z# k" l, F- ]* sWhat a statement we have here?
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? % T8 h' W, l7 u, @
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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:cool:
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:0 D$ C8 |6 [& a
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"
5 R- Q5 ]# a: b. LYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....! O' z% m! S. u- F" [4 ?2 @( k+ W
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......9 j7 l' v* {- q

3 h  Y* e- W% x" Y& b2 oit's starting because we have sins......$ H9 X  }* b% c
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
( o$ Y7 `9 H! jour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"2 i% T$ N: A! Y4 H- E
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,! m8 l. B0 `' I( v% Y. a" B
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,' V4 k2 b& [0 R& q
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全/ Y% t) V8 z1 r2 A, ?6 G
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,2 ?$ S4 M( I2 h4 \0 d6 |$ R
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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9 x2 k# r- E" t( l導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
, H5 v. y' N# L* w9 _好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,- [0 c+ m/ R. Q: ~: p9 f  y  m9 I
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
+ |) t- m. J2 c) f* i, O改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
0 J! n6 M$ C& R美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,7 ]4 c. S) \- r, P4 J! [4 t$ @
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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6 B5 x1 p! a6 X9 ]以下是其他人的見解,4 C6 T5 H& l0 D7 h& q  b7 c
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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% K; v1 ?2 D) `8 L; ?( ^信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!8 b: R5 j4 W# I

% C3 h+ R# }* T9 z' l不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!1 X6 r/ [* |7 h# U# D4 }  `& g; h

8 B0 r# z, s* N同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:1 j3 G0 o6 d7 G3 J( x
.............信耶穌... ...

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Regarding the resurrection....& z2 l% S1 N7 W# a- J; d% p! S$ [* [

3 g- ?: v/ b0 }' |Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.