jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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& R) D; O0 R4 vbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
9 H: Q: k0 R0 e+ y' a# }6 rcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
7 U# L$ s. @: m  N8 Uwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
$ a+ s& a# o* t/ [3 |many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
8 L, y: W( n. o/ ?: k- c# bbut why jesus need to do this?
# @7 ^4 @3 W4 b* U2 L2 jpunsihment for what???5 ~" L0 i# ?; i. H0 o) D
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus2 Q4 B  |9 R+ [$ A
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers4 V7 z! T8 Z8 L: N. T+ [' _
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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4 p% [( E# M5 q但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
$ Z4 j: A4 Y* x( E! b. sbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
" q' F$ l# K/ g# e& B! G$ Acomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case: j7 r6 G" K( |' y7 B
why this happen? just simple........punishment3 w8 [" v7 f2 `
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
, ?+ E! D( p# o3 hbut why jesus need to do this?  {1 B0 Y  O( L0 p
punsihment for what???1 d3 a/ G9 T# x! z  R+ n$ b
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus: F+ d1 g* C6 A" s) o$ `( \# I2 U$ ?
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers+ I" f' p! I" ~& Z" c
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u / I2 G7 ^" \) s% D& \
what will u do???
: ~+ N: B! g8 p" t6 ?just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, ) T5 @/ [" k: r: X

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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6 F/ e/ M! z8 x- c! [* d議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days: c! n2 y. g/ B/ u: C8 C; p2 Y
honestly, if there is jesus
$ {1 [: d( f. K4 |  ehe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
- J8 V  P7 x; q  j9 v! ^we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:5 _$ i! K) s/ {2 H5 Z) O
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" S- C4 W( X( e  Nyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life3 U" c: M+ d/ @( q- V' Y
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it0 x/ z  R1 M  m- ~
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
1 K4 o/ h; G/ [0 Q/ A. F: tnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
9 I% B0 u# ?. K+ Ibro singgeihot and rest365days, K. y) y7 ^7 Z2 \; `6 E/ V
honestly, if there is jesus
/ D( m/ t# N3 M$ v4 h0 h! Fhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus5 n, t: l. }% _3 h/ |$ ]
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
! c( S4 h; M! w* g* y" L5 @otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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# @% ~, B$ r: e/ Y1 thaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: