jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
- P, T; _1 E$ H$ \& u仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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2 v% P8 z8 R, Y$ L, y. D/ ?6 M9 xbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
6 L7 [1 f/ q# C" Ocomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case, W6 F7 S' n9 }4 j
why this happen? just simple........punishment
2 J8 n2 H! L8 I8 G! H2 Mmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
6 b! T. {$ g+ W$ N/ R7 M5 k! }5 C; Wbut why jesus need to do this?& V/ b+ p* ]# G0 \5 r, E' R
punsihment for what???
, R3 v" M% e6 G  x" ~0 ifor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus8 f# G* }3 Q$ W2 t' Y3 Y! |! i% {
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
. F( y' O+ m$ _8 E  p1 Z# _' Ubut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u * Q1 k0 R- P. S/ {
what will u do???
  l, Y7 l) f9 E, R% d+ a3 Zjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:) b5 `1 z5 y% d2 t6 N# W

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1 E6 ]: }8 H0 gyes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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% m# z3 G$ K# Q但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排( b8 x  w3 J3 x5 G: z
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:/ ^2 N. t0 z- A/ j
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
, T* y7 q" B3 \  ]! v+ Icomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
3 Q; _' M6 p9 M1 g# Ewhy this happen? just simple........punishment
2 ~; ~" Z+ T; F: [many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 2 T+ K" T; {" Q. J# p2 a( @( ~
but why jesus need to do this?
6 C1 V; b" x, x  \punsihment for what???0 l& {2 }1 Q: j; |' e+ u/ ^& C  x! {
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
$ K; ^+ v0 o0 o2 i' }try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers3 X( ^6 Q$ e& D+ a3 ?9 K
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 3 E8 i4 u% c6 e* [% j6 z% |! ^
what will u do???8 t3 H, h/ ^1 e# B( \
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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5 k, ?: v! G$ Gsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:5 T% p7 H2 @' D0 Z1 Z1 k' f: P3 b

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2 x- G! D' F5 p0 o8 dbro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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$ d8 [+ @2 ~7 B" l議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
! Y+ [: ~0 q& l7 `( [honestly, if there is jesus
. V* b5 I6 f' Ghe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
# i. V# X3 D1 V5 hwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
% U9 s9 g( \; T) k6 @& f6 bjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
; ~  w& i9 V9 A5 A3 P! C( Z/ x  oso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
5 H* o6 _# u4 \: I- x9 f9 Bnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
+ L3 U0 E0 d+ O# abro singgeihot and rest365days
. j( U/ P6 U$ L( w, ~6 Y$ jhonestly, if there is jesus
: d) o' J4 \" [he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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1 w4 [. v/ ^2 A$ F( T% p7 ~8 tunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics# O6 d! b5 e+ m' ^1 W
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:4 s; A0 R# a1 u$ J+ m$ N
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: