singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 12:31 AM:' q4 _% F8 k6 N( I3 L- w

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This is a good po ...

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多謝哂. 在我的定義中, "努力"係指一個人無論做佢鍾唔鍾意的事, 佢都會全力以赴. 好似<長今>咁, 就算叫佢洗碗, 幫宮女按摩, 佢都全力做好. 呢d就係"努力".
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相反, 如果一個人有某方面天份, 但佢只係在這方面"努力", 做其他事就求求其其, 甚至有d事佢應該要做, 但係因為佢對呢樣野冇天份而唔去做, 佢都唔算係真正"努力".8 c# J, z7 ^- G# I( w, _  s8 O  ^8 l$ }

6 ?9 E5 [: h2 d) p例如一個科學家佢對研究有天份同在這方面很努力, 但係佢表達能力極差, 如果佢唔"努力"改善表達能力, 佢都唔可以將d成果同其他人分享.

icefire

我覺天份90%, 努力10%
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就以會考數學緊講, 有d人真係唔洗溫書, 做幾年past paper就攞個A.

奇

有天份又努力再加運氣就更好

crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-26 03:00 AM:
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yes, i get yr poi ...

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psycho is hard~.~
' |- A: K2 A# O+ khaha, anyway, i can see your points, especialy "hard working can be trained by hard working" the idea is fresh to me
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good to chat with u, more of this kind of topics will come, see you there~

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-26 01:57 PM:2 ^& g: ]8 A- }7 g( D$ `) g2 G
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多謝哂. 在我的定義中, &quo ...

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hahhaa, 不用客氣1 |3 q) y5 N5 o5 R1 @. v: v
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我明白你的觀點, 在小弟的定義中, 如果一個人平時不努力, 但遇到喜歡做的事會努力做, 那也算是努力了
+ W) Q. U& f2 u/ Z以追女仔為例, 一個平日多懶的人, 也會出力追女孩子吧, 那也算是努力呀
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哈哈, 有少少離題了, 不過最重要大家傾得開心

singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:44 PM:
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哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.
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哈哈, 我都有少少離題了.

jason williams

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:36 PM:' \3 ^7 W- |. W0 x0 s3 U
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um...
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haha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-27 01:53 AM:3 C5 g7 I2 k3 @& s+ k. k
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哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.
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2 X& U3 |7 E- U0 u$ Q6 P哈哈, 我都有少少離題了

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哈哈, 你努力時可能會發現了自己的天份呢) Z: q  c( ?$ Y9 V1 v5 z9 v" _1 l4 F
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同類既topic會盡量日日都出, 希望大家可以一齊用下腦袋啦
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% R. A, n, v; }. d你有無試下答大義滅親果條呀, 都幾好玩嫁   <----- 哈哈, 剛發現你答了, 多謝支持
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crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-27 01:54 AM:
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! r  B. Z1 e$ e7 A4 f+ Ohaha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

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% H3 a* }+ e2 G, {1 c" Dhaha, me 2, similar type of brain teasing topics will be made everyday (ideally)- x; `: O$ G: q* S" ]0 J
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Give it a go if u have time

jason williams

haha, leave jor some comment about it la7 ?7 J- ]) {* C+ `
besides, crap! interest to ask u
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