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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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6 H+ h( n2 g4 P! @- a智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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' `8 t( q7 h# C3 NBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮., _) {: n* i/ K" u8 o$ a- K

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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( Q/ j5 I* _' N: }5 ~. D! ]; k9 l其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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% c6 v6 U. R. hsee #22 Thus
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.6 H0 P4 Q% |1 Y1 T8 t

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:( m) J6 ?; t: |9 X
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:. l/ a$ L+ O  e5 O( J1 ?: N

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他比孔明更偉大

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' ~3 S$ [3 n5 Y) o$ d* K& I# x% wAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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6 [0 D' Q0 X* R% |+ ?Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:( b4 ]% X; A0 q8 |) H/ N

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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