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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:1 y- I) _5 L  t2 s' m" W

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5 N4 |' }6 {! n4 b3 A/ B; C& [# ^But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.; Q; h8 _' g. O' q6 D3 _1 p9 n

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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1 j2 N" V$ w* o5 k1 l5 C其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.6 {% X. Z; l/ x! [
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:4 R9 X; ^9 T1 d* ^7 B- Y
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:( g$ t: |* ?9 x: w
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:1 Q' f$ w; m" N/ m

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:' O( }. s" I0 g( p2 J
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6 N; H2 b' I; n, Eyes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:$ i6 c( X$ t9 J8 B1 C2 [
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yes, that's the point.

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