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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:: U( R. Z; c& E
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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+ S- P% K! E9 [4 m( W/ tBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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. _- ?2 C# }: o( R! L: [But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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) ]/ Q7 \* t8 {+ n) M其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:- X+ E2 H  Z- X( d
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->/ Z* O7 ^3 X" l4 r) ~0 h" z

: t3 c, h1 m' Q7 T軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.' l1 ]( [3 J  Z# S8 ?" u7 ~0 A1 w8 `
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:4 N5 q! a# z- Z9 }
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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* ~. H5 @4 {! x8 MAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:8 H- u) J  J6 u# S9 J; Q; r0 q8 d
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: j# E2 z$ _0 K& GAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

. B- v  F! [$ _! oyes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:% b: T! z0 d+ V! [+ f, t) y1 H  X

  _/ p. \3 n1 q0 Pyes, that's the point.

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