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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:5 @$ [! s0 M* c5 D; `- ?& m1 a

+ i6 A7 ^# u" e" ?0 Cbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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8 B( q5 k: C3 z1 \" A% aBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.4 k( P, |# q8 _/ e
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:) e0 ?1 [* o- m5 q4 O/ i
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( o' o. s1 i# {7 V5 O! @8 T& ~But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:- _$ n0 E+ a. R  X0 S
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4 }' T' Z$ B* n其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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8 k8 t6 y+ \$ q% n7 r8 X' Asee #22 Thus
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4 M, F7 w# P* T: F+ p( ?智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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& y- e& j& s. [9 j) S, B軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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, |; b' E$ s  K- N打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
; v# q- j! u* n' @. \; ?5 JIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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$ B5 C" }5 r0 q+ s! K- @% k他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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  N. U6 ?0 P: d0 NAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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5 ?0 S- g2 \: }1 i- g4 g5 \% Z4 I他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:) D8 J+ S6 o' A" c

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. P% R3 U' M$ {: P% e8 a* v- J8 Z他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:+ z9 V- e0 }9 \% n

2 R9 s9 H; J: Vyes, that's the point.

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