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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:' n5 v. b# y! X' P4 Z
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( b- d/ F) j4 E1 Z智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:3 u, e9 S: k9 G/ B8 \

  K6 Q+ l  e& obut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.4 W7 |$ P9 {2 @; P( e$ i1 X: f

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:1 Y+ m4 X; c  d' @4 `: @2 j
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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- {/ X  z6 d7 i8 m0 Q4 c% r其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus3 s' E2 Z6 {1 H; U

9 B+ c( n: b- b  [5 i. R8 H智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維* a$ T, L' L$ c0 v& w
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.! t+ ?4 Q( H1 L
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.. f$ ]4 Q* ^+ m/ a
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
- s9 x) n- F% l- o4 d+ CIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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. H5 v9 E+ ]& [% rAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:  w& n; E# Y3 b# N$ s  g
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/ \9 }4 P8 a/ E5 ^" ZAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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( N  {" h9 J7 H' T4 Z- b' r; p( y/ D他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:8 c* u9 E  u, p* ]0 B: _
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yes, that's the point.

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