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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:) m6 {" K' g3 P
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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5 O9 Y! d. W; \% J$ sBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.& M& b+ o: l1 v& L' O: ~( d* f

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:4 H% t! g; F" T  u
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:% Q. O. S& r  u' X; s
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why?- @! u+ S! |* x

+ \" O1 ?$ N$ W: M6 t8 W+ {% e其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus: A+ z- Q& V! X/ u' x1 D3 k

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.! _( s+ k& P7 Y3 w3 Z% y
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:4 ^+ V  g* Y/ H* W6 y
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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9 v, z* H- J3 Z" K8 E1 [# aAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:$ N4 G6 E1 U0 p$ E+ b! v/ N' [2 M
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

6 E/ i( p6 `! P6 `: eyes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:; y7 D: k, y+ q0 s) |

. b6 |7 L1 J, i' Ayes, that's the point.

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, X: {5 A; K" B& c0 S陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......