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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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9 i- V0 G8 G! OBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:: B. X4 w9 G2 ]$ {9 b
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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1 S7 n$ ^0 U2 H( v0 D0 K其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:9 Z  y" ~2 _8 X& Z- d
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->+ y0 K! Z2 G& e) W' x/ H
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維' k. \+ `& g) J. L2 x

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5 l: i4 }4 W; d) {' A8 y打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.) m% o3 K0 T! V1 [1 V
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:! @2 |& O+ K9 v6 A% x
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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3 \8 Z1 b8 s$ ^# x0 rAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:# N8 }$ B/ i# q0 S- a. Z0 _
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& F- {" G* c  h他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:! x% K6 l/ W' [) t, E; q9 x
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......