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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:4 u. B3 a& L1 [  k

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:( T) e. N- Z8 V5 \  k
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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; K' }3 y* M- D8 n8 }* e* b0 E. gBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:) ]9 n5 W$ M: N
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0 e- u4 o9 j: A7 dBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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" H* G" N3 m# |其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:( L! h  h3 U- W/ \# L
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see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->, E5 r- I' Y4 {2 c

8 K( i0 M2 H# t- D軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details." ?$ G! v% U) V) v2 o& f3 [- P
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.  W) ]7 @; C$ Q1 l2 V
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:/ h' l* X& N, b' }* y9 e. v
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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4 Q4 |( {% c: o# Z他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:! n- R) x: d$ e6 d, n5 b

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他比孔明更偉大

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9 \+ d4 _9 g# f  d/ C0 pAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:2 L3 v- z- V& U* w; i: z" r! v2 Q

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:- b  }2 `& d/ c& i! x
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:8 l' q5 k" m& a. l$ o6 d0 X7 ]+ T

1 T( k( t+ S7 S, ]/ Kyes, that's the point.

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0 x3 O* K& M# ]/ P! g6 l陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......