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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:7 {. {. a, I" M% N* E( Y
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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% P" [/ v6 r8 ]+ O$ c+ e7 bBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:7 v- K6 i3 Q+ {# f# a
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:; `5 Z. o2 h: @( }7 |8 @. E
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! }# ~, d) @- E6 a+ m" H$ p6 o其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus2 ~2 f( c+ P. [! g0 t

1 _* `! F' O! \3 g$ z, q& {; \* Z2 K智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->7 C3 O7 x1 ^: v2 A+ ?! O/ P6 P
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.- w+ B# k. r& a
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.+ }$ J) p6 q. w' I. z- q( D
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
! t9 Y3 L! w( Q% l, gIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:- G* p# F6 _) P5 ^- ?0 m

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! E4 g, i+ c8 b1 f  `. y7 b. aAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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  y$ h+ |8 D$ f* e# W7 [7 Q& i, c$ ^Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:6 o: j' r4 `4 \  d; E8 T6 Z

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