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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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1 h1 U+ R- m- U/ Rbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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4 ?1 g( o4 a3 p. d! e+ i9 ZBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:3 b: T5 k5 W" A; u
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:* _# ?8 s" q+ M2 c; n
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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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8 D& I, W8 ^8 c- A$ ~& h智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->3 g0 n8 C7 v: N
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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% P1 u2 E( D# \政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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# W+ g, @3 G( [- F, V; ^: [: e打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
8 l" v; G$ M7 n8 m( n. PIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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( M5 d& q" f+ J, E他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:; e9 ^, o: j3 Q! E
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:$ m5 y3 ?" U$ D% e; l8 N+ v
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: X) ]. F9 i- h. _2 X他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

( u0 b+ H& ?2 Wyes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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& A* F% ?5 s0 U5 q& G' @yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......