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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:9 d6 R3 U7 R) w, D# K% K. p5 Q
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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: g/ u- B8 P1 J8 ]- i" ?* UBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.: c, L! W2 o% N0 I: ~
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:; s& O6 F/ @8 W; }# O+ K
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus) ?& b9 B) e* J; M- C$ I

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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維/ Q9 ]9 M  ^. `5 {7 Z4 I% d  m: b
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:3 K6 [6 E; L/ Y" O  g
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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4 B$ k# B' g( @, bAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:3 s8 l9 E) g3 q
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" F; v, ~  i4 n+ a! [4 a" MAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:+ h/ b5 H) E9 U% o1 l' C8 p' @

  A& s4 K  ]2 ?# \3 |yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......