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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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  \  K) I% X( N3 ibut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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( b6 F& ]& A0 E' G- j* j/ Z$ {2 VBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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; X, `2 I8 m( O5 \2 _其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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1 }' ]/ h9 D/ }+ f) s其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->; A9 I! C- d% B
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維- }; A: a& B: ]7 e
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.3 I8 \8 {* |. }1 W3 f& e
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
* L* d  B* B6 ]! f4 z2 y. IIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:& I; {# L" _" C# _8 C  d

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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& \; B! ]4 m- T' t5 C1 I3 q1 e他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:4 i8 f( S. N5 p
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yes, that's the point.

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