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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:+ t/ y4 G& Q, e. X

  W+ i6 z- ^# y. A7 a( Q3 m0 y. z5 Cbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.) p2 K6 O; q) S  U3 N" j
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:# E+ A! t0 K  {" N
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- R7 h+ `5 A4 M! j* R2 p* BBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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  B) D0 T6 w+ w' W! ^& Rwhy?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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( Q+ U& G- ~5 n8 ~) ]see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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# X  k1 `# [9 B+ Z: B; [* F0 I' |軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維4 j" W; ?2 M( K' V$ |

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
* ~1 o+ \$ j  t% F( CIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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/ L: e/ O2 H. V4 }Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:( E5 {7 n" O8 d$ H* L& D. D& s
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/ p! R$ v2 F5 y# _0 ?. oAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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& X  D$ Z  ~  N他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:6 _- f; l% r% ]" I) X, L
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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