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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:" K7 ]) v0 I0 Z  J  H; y- v

; U3 K" m6 ~' s) Fbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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( K8 F/ K+ M! fBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.  o: T) Y4 o! A+ v' G# q

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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9 f. o& S" ^+ x. A) qBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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# A9 ~" K4 e9 r6 o& zsee #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->- a, `; g+ @) I+ N+ R. `! t+ X
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維% q! H  _3 R9 g
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.- N1 Z; S: \  G1 G$ }8 K
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
2 P) V3 K* r/ m$ v* b; sIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:; |! a# Q3 y9 S& W& Z# H' U+ y
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# l. G( y# D1 CAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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, b# }- ?; Q1 a$ G( j% n2 Q6 ~Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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1 ~5 b2 B, t: i. ]( q) C' h" b: C他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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1 K; Q0 |  ?/ R( v& ~4 Z: g, n他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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  ?0 `; o0 P% |* O) r* p. q陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......