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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:* J4 ?# l; a4 B5 r4 X, V! `
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.) T. u; F0 B. d
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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5 g2 t9 t! R% I& LBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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3 Q4 j. Z6 r1 ~1 }why?
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+ I( Z# N) o- y6 ^! {2 F其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:2 ^7 ^: ]; B+ q3 u
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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$ G. a2 G% E# |1 ?$ b智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾---># r5 w6 o1 T) F* v4 h) Z4 v
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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8 a" M3 j% c4 B# w政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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/ O) b+ _8 C8 J4 R- l打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
, p" a4 K( J+ x! `0 YIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:+ j; W8 J. e: S6 c, v

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5 S* V' D; }# s- ^Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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% U7 R& I& S# A; V9 ~6 h% L他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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