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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:' r1 a" o9 n1 U5 l) E5 [8 o6 s% [

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:% P; w6 J& y' Z9 V; i
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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7 f9 l" u( |* ]- p* I6 ]/ e0 k6 |But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.: i  S8 Z6 F9 j# a' w9 _

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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5 D) h8 @. A' V6 b/ QBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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% o) i. ?* @% F" [其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus0 o1 O7 [7 k" v( A( l

" J" m. ]7 O2 Q6 ]# ]+ c; w9 h智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->7 @: R$ m# w# q6 U
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維" t7 u, T3 C2 W9 i' \2 M8 A% f

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6 f1 A1 }- @/ e. f0 ^# B打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.5 d/ D9 _0 y( G! K9 g
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:0 W5 D$ d$ u* f" E5 ~
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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5 Y# ^: s: N2 H6 [& B2 y8 R; C他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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$ x/ E, ]8 [0 D+ ^Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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