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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:) f% C( L  W, n2 ?
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:9 m2 [" n- G6 B/ h+ D9 ^4 m

, [5 t9 c8 y# C% [( ^6 p- h7 pbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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' i4 t$ x7 Q; D4 W. w" ~3 F) }But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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5 d2 b/ _, a& M2 ~/ A& R, Y6 S其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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2 x1 F8 j# `, ?# G# M6 U% R, j- \" \其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->! v* f% j  S& ]/ T
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維" \) u# j7 E7 o/ F

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3 M' Y- h9 a* j0 Q- B8 K7 m打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:& I. [7 c- j9 ~: B2 ?4 g
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:, T2 U+ D( w9 q; T3 r- g

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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:1 e' u5 e6 _% X! u

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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/ @$ w8 w/ O( f! B. G" z, R: |他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......