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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:* E+ ^9 l2 i. _: X' A0 \" U

7 a( Y+ \  Y1 q( j9 Q+ ~) C6 }- l% Obut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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" e2 r) J5 l: A7 qBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.5 B; @% [6 ^# w8 |

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:" v4 D* W. x% c
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) u2 U" |1 E: X% I* oBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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( X. G& C+ r' ]: G" ^8 u5 C3 o$ k其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:# G3 p; Z* ~) r& d" ^
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why?1 X- Y. z( {4 F8 e# i9 d7 k- ]2 ^

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see #22 Thus
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  a& ~% p5 d- G5 _; B2 _軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維9 |; e) m$ Q; x6 c7 V" ?& W

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" r) d1 V% X$ Z# H打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮., e0 G  `0 t+ Y5 x

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
0 P# J, f- E  [, i2 x$ oIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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$ \: e  p3 {4 F1 p$ v3 d. UAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:' Y; I# n8 }/ K4 r. s
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3 ]) H5 K1 S2 C( L$ }) [1 m; V/ BAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:6 f7 |2 t& H8 i1 N' \

0 q. @# _8 c6 B- \# v$ Kyes, that's the point.

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