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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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: i1 I. M8 U; B, L7 d/ P8 Mbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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$ h& ~# _9 e: ~, u8 ~9 RBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.' X- a2 M' N0 G, _7 P
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:* v' z/ U& ]& c, z6 B
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->- E- q' @4 Y1 u2 V3 I" }9 n: O1 @
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維" h3 Z; p. V8 Y& u$ H& v1 F) y1 g+ J8 a: p
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.; a" _: n- p$ b$ z! B& I/ K
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.) h$ W4 `/ w. |" i' }" U
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
) {* E  c, y$ DIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:; D: W9 x" _5 r6 q8 m& H, f- A0 h

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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:1 s7 \5 v# l& q) A% J9 I! \
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- k  |; J3 c! P/ d5 q! KAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:/ B) }0 z3 u# n' W2 ?2 }: u' Q

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:* ?& b$ ~0 l% `& f: W6 T. V) ]0 S
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......