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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:. V! e- K8 [  B0 C& Q7 h5 @* e* N
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:; G- X- t" U: s7 V5 O
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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! ]( r- r. h3 P2 ^0 q$ L+ jBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:! P' ?2 F% f# L
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why?
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6 O5 M: p0 r& v! y* V6 G, c其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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5 M8 B3 s9 O' z' C2 I8 ^$ [智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->0 d0 t* ]( P# p( R" [
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.6 u( |( Y' h4 @% n
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:7 c: q8 g" D- E$ f( w0 ?4 l" d
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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8 t* V7 N! H/ w4 l9 ]4 b- z2 ?Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:0 U' l& H0 X( J, D! H
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:/ C' t& R( d8 b: u

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2 C, u* _" D. g- @; }! u# W0 I# ?他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:$ K/ B! T9 B- M4 V4 G  u) g  t

3 r; S0 A4 u* N5 Dyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......