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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:' i& A) l8 _( y* l. e! E

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:2 n" I$ |7 Q7 t% g
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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4 J+ `7 Z, z( `- l! wBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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# a* w2 ~+ ~. O/ a2 d8 z' a7 e2 y: [其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus1 \8 m' s6 B( ]" v

7 ?" K/ q( s6 Q* M1 X* k智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維1 `- B  N8 ]6 S9 T. U1 y
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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# e1 ], s0 A1 G/ ]6 ?" E- v打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:; V6 X$ D3 R8 r
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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' n+ p! {% ]* a; W5 k4 VAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:. o! y% i( H" s0 x3 D

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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: b+ U! D5 P, a# s) ?5 {他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:! f# r, X6 m7 X5 `$ O' G7 z% E

) K: X/ `6 T! P! i) z$ Pyes, that's the point.

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