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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:, N  ~' O. G2 t0 D5 ^
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:6 [/ ?4 H$ ^5 y" }: L
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.8 h. U5 R' Y8 a- J. i" ~

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:1 ]) D& [5 H8 V8 A% |/ F

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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% a8 h$ V1 I* ^, |" r# O1 t智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->  w  s8 f3 }+ I' g/ X$ |

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:2 H, c9 E2 C& W5 w( z
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:* M* w; |8 R. O' H" T9 o
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

+ l: [" I% A1 x; ryes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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