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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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) ]- _4 h* g4 C4 |, I8 C. K2 J( Z7 ZBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮./ H8 P5 k* Z% m8 W3 e+ r

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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( I2 ?5 X8 V) }/ r1 J* y其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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- I1 P3 m$ w' l其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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& ]# {2 i! `# X" h* L! \1 C# Msee #22 Thus
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1 n. f  O  ]0 Q7 e( H智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->/ H% s1 c6 y! l( v: R/ H
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維1 h. z; h) b. A$ E" I& R' T
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.% |. m3 `$ Q' P$ p. c3 m" W

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:$ Z+ `1 @: Q5 i4 [7 w/ {( |, ]
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:. A* c4 N: i: z

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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:8 r7 y! _6 y6 x! |
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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# @  v6 R! |/ ?: W# c他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:# s4 ^) T3 v8 M- a; D! m9 l
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......