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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:3 E+ ?" W) l$ j, q6 k

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:; i$ S3 x/ J, j6 v

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2 Z8 L$ a' ]4 j  y8 uBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.* J7 h; b# }5 A* M: u( n9 d
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:* }( \; q8 `3 l9 q: @

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! f" ~+ g$ r* S- F3 r$ l7 B( mBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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! a4 |1 A8 @1 Cwhy?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:$ b8 C# e3 Z7 G- w2 |) e
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  q! V7 F4 @* V其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus' N- A* A: d3 ^) q/ s+ {8 Z" r
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->) ?2 Z7 _4 M; N' d4 R1 {

$ R" y9 |$ c5 R7 n+ L軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維' |5 Y% A9 @$ _8 g: w' t5 X
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.- }3 s, W) c4 t+ C4 c( t

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
; g" f6 {4 ^# b4 WIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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  S3 u) l5 `- {9 d' m# Y# f他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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3 Y+ G7 Q( s8 |% O# u: GAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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; o! T( C, Q) h+ B* L$ `0 b他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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