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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:; r% A1 v; P+ w; x

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:9 z. [3 V3 l& x/ d' ?& \( W; n
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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  r$ M' c8 C9 V1 M; k3 WBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.7 T$ t; c% @8 ^7 u9 E+ U2 p
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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. U# H  D7 \, R3 [5 s% ^, s其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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! \/ U6 D6 n; l9 Y9 \5 r. b智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.+ R7 c! K7 r1 O. M  Q1 V8 ~4 ?( _
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:; b1 S5 H1 o$ i6 D! o( r& `/ G
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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2 C) M0 F3 h3 j8 Y4 s( P' s& @; BAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:7 s& b  x$ E. P1 t/ l
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0 o3 Z" }7 F) M他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......