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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:7 v  a& L: N( O2 m% x0 G2 Y
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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( t/ E4 _1 c6 V4 D: ?But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:" G, z! ~/ b" N- F. ]3 |& ~! C
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) z. X  `# G+ K" rBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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% B: ^: h& [! O, _0 S其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:8 v$ j5 t6 T0 s9 U! c: H

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why?
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3 S% n1 k' ~9 U& l9 n  ~& [其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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# ?( `0 V, l6 A# N! ^4 Q打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
, f$ e# d: W; ^! RIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:9 J$ Q0 Y9 {, M! W6 G+ v

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3 p# j9 u  S, V( oAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:8 ~+ z6 w2 f0 w7 E
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& |( ^8 Y$ ?4 }$ ~& R: A5 w他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:# G: C* B" s5 l

7 q& l5 J- n% I/ m$ n( Q8 B0 z( byes, that's the point.

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0 {: `" J7 {/ q" H' G陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......