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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:& e; x+ \' z, S- w2 u% K* f
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:, N0 w- j9 v& }6 o9 v) Y# [

7 h6 [: P. D8 F* z+ r. ?2 Xbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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' e/ f3 A2 N! V" a* V& ^4 aBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:3 {5 y1 m, H' L* r9 G1 M! t/ @
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4 u0 B" v0 ]2 {/ W6 V; E* j# z; GBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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' k8 @6 m- i9 f  p其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維5 [. o& V) N3 e9 X
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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7 ?! o( \7 H5 |  w: K5 @打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
' K) f. ]  ?; S: e& ^+ s* u  {In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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5 }$ a8 {( x" R6 x, U; Y' xAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:" ]0 E6 \8 }, Y3 L

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& v3 o7 g4 W& A% ~! ^, [; k, fAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:- H7 }- ~( b0 p4 ^
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2 B% J5 X$ P; r' a他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:( A0 O& O' ^! `; G7 O6 u' b7 ?
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......