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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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2 O" P1 @3 F2 Z5 Cbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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5 o( G- x  M# X/ D5 W+ |  u* NBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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2 M/ s$ U- r1 V) ]4 J其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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) j! ~; c2 ~$ P7 p其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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2 ]  V5 B, N' k, K2 i. P智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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: o: f; i  p5 c+ ^0 c! y軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.9 e  ^0 n8 ~7 O% E% e2 t

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
$ [5 ]" V# P0 R5 sIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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7 u% z" D5 {, A8 ~Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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! F" w9 q0 a1 z3 `" pAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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7 j) l) i4 Y, Y, k他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:  H8 ^* I  g  t+ z6 U8 K- B
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:; }0 `0 ~" a) ]( Z; P3 D: V

: Y/ @* u0 B, s( k& e, X) h5 j8 n6 Zyes, that's the point.

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