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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:; E3 m4 F# C& E. e1 d8 w; A
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.6 k  W4 o* F% u) p# j5 `
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:& m0 u3 h1 M- V
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* @; [* Q7 b* E$ b! F: HBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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' y. R& T/ p3 J9 i  d; R+ d其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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6 E1 z8 c7 u6 v3 M/ v智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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4 ^% g! \$ H1 r& r軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維0 r$ s1 }+ t- Q

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.$ t) o: q( w4 B4 ^/ X7 y9 I

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:' X( R: C7 l5 r, w
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:3 ~5 ~8 ~, A3 O3 a, _
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他比孔明更偉大

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, W- k* d! P9 r" h6 `& C4 Z9 uAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

7 Z" y$ n+ {, T7 O9 eyes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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