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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:7 l6 {# Q9 B# E  i
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.5 B8 ]9 c8 i/ T) Q) L

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:; x+ n6 h) R$ m4 A  n

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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& V* T8 X8 X0 l2 W5 h5 f其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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6 A. P& |" B. h1 w+ x; ^軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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$ E3 Z" @: a4 j1 c& e打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.* ~5 R! ?; e: a$ |# ]# s2 {3 c; M

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:& j! O' m( A& W) B, W- L% l
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:( S; o/ `/ U) j9 T
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他比孔明更偉大

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! p  C) M1 Y3 q% vAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:) L: [0 A, T# n3 s- j
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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) i" T3 L* q5 ]yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......