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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:& y* Y# T* f- ^  y$ |( g1 K: Z
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:8 f7 g4 A" L' b0 L4 H$ ^
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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6 l- ^; D' j# A5 N& Z6 DBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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  O- S, c) h$ F# ZBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:9 m* g3 s: z4 {

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see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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  l; ^# L4 ?/ V; L軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.0 j) T; B: s$ z5 F- F/ D9 E2 G( f8 t* v

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:; a" e, O" S+ w, s
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:2 l9 K# Y' o/ C) d% Q. {

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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:8 [" u( h( I$ D0 ~) s6 z$ T

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:9 C# R* x% @* h6 e+ z5 {

0 r. \' l6 f/ D7 M9 I6 o7 myes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......