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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:8 g% T4 O. @. ?, k9 Q5 E* |5 o
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:- `( k; q& H! p4 Z, Z5 p
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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: i( e: z$ h& L- RBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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( w$ n4 Y" F6 o- m6 J2 i) i/ \But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:" m) @$ E6 z2 o0 Y

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" Q9 b% _9 Z* a: w& E其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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  `. e7 N+ [* t0 }$ osee #22 Thus
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5 u. A3 z/ G" Z& z! R6 V$ V6 ^; s政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.& G* h! q$ V$ W. M# x
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
9 U! [) W4 P- [, c+ J" Q7 {4 m* ^7 qIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:: W* {+ T+ G% z- R3 N7 R1 E

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7 I3 U& l2 z0 ~+ x* X8 O" dAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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. ?! {8 l* X4 P5 t他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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) x, [& k2 Y8 s  S8 q0 M他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:. S& ^4 _# n3 o$ }( f

( v+ ^; h$ ~& W1 Q& Yyes, that's the point.

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