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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:9 G$ Z, B; `. F& Z2 x$ Y

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:/ C9 ]2 _3 H% a7 H$ V

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3 l; E  B3 t2 z6 ~4 p" {3 VBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.$ Q- F0 L0 g# T( ]- t

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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% [# u6 [9 p. P7 G% [. S" N# z8 M9 JBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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8 d5 A% \" C# O1 W" V, g( Y其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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2 s+ V) N  ^1 }* D: a8 @% H智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維4 g* T" N. O' ^! |3 K& i1 o
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.) }+ K2 K! Z. C# |$ T9 A  n& I' @) j

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:! K8 ^. P! |4 g
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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! k& b$ i) x) W; T- O0 vAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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# }. X- t7 {# d- G# V: [0 t6 Y1 V2 gAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:  W% U- d( K- s; S) f
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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6 h4 j6 o; X' n$ x. b4 \yes, that's the point.

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