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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:- O8 g* A/ R, |- F  x
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:% `6 W% _- \7 w

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.. T6 Y, ~1 }; S3 a4 b1 {2 F
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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9 h- i( V  d. t  ?- U2 D/ q* R/ j( E智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->7 T) S( D; ^: j2 C6 @- s3 v; a! u
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維+ |5 T% `- v8 T8 \7 ?: c" G
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details." q8 @& e  X/ p) Z2 T1 a/ O; D; z% @

( g0 u4 D; [6 M5 {打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:. J0 ]4 J) K2 X' X! a( \
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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5 j5 c" n  m5 f6 X+ zAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

' W' v% {3 g5 ]% \yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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