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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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  n' c6 P2 L# uBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:6 U% V! l9 g( J8 P" Z. a: B! m

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6 Z4 }; v" L* V& TBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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3 ^) N+ r9 M! t8 |. _其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:8 v0 m/ _  V" h$ G( m1 k+ H+ C. ?

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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8 _  S3 O" |( y智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->: p8 c1 g1 [+ i9 q' S

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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.( }3 z9 G; u9 w! m
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
# v4 Y3 c! \* zIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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: j: n; w  l6 A( @Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:1 o8 C- u+ L. U$ X6 ]

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7 B2 }, Q+ N3 I4 J* {Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:+ Z( q( s$ I! o  b/ K

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" X6 s1 z) }7 n& J) ^6 i他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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