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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:3 d/ {( o, s+ e

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  S5 {1 B" ~2 O8 K智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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% V; g% B+ s: T7 i2 m/ \' ]' Xbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:, u. ]: V( L% t) j0 y( e! b! W- H
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:0 _" g7 }& s, ^6 w
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# \' o$ D1 p5 O7 `其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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; ^. f4 R& E# l4 z6 d+ z' b5 {& ~' h智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維& |) T% Q1 V9 |' X
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.1 k$ h; w* p# ^. ~1 o  J% H

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
" ^' L% f' N( }" F+ C. fIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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- A; K0 o4 I8 w) x& d2 m# KAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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9 `0 e3 f! y' f/ s; Q; nAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:  T8 n, ^, `3 O9 I" U" t3 l
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:; o) V$ x0 P- d# Z
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......