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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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  T0 q6 j) O5 |, p0 E: {! S其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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* u# U! q! ?% F2 C- d( N) {其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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4 F; e, d, p1 l  L! A+ Y軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維, J( E+ f6 P$ a7 T0 \( |

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮." W* D; k7 y. M5 H" Y$ v2 L% f

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:3 {- t7 i* z5 `7 W: C$ D' ^& I
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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) _* E+ Z6 `2 k: T他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:! P# L. Z( w! t* w2 `8 j$ r  U

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他比孔明更偉大

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$ J" q% l, Y% N7 Z6 `  NAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:/ G9 X- \8 y6 t- @

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:; c" U$ y: O0 ?- [
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% H$ w4 H9 r6 L+ M6 z8 ~7 Q他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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! {( f- `8 O6 d7 _yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......