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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:  t: x7 t* S! e1 w
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:4 g2 o( _# Z, W0 b, M, V2 }9 U

  a7 ~0 k( W" y- ?& gbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.. ?6 v$ z1 h4 S. C8 @

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:6 f' q/ w9 K1 X9 \! r
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; W2 l. n: ~/ {, [7 v& V, xBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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4 X  W" d2 w$ d, G1 |' ?; S3 q4 f. D其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:: x' K! ~0 l, F) `% V

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$ T0 G8 ?2 C& L其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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  V- d) G' |# X6 @) p- i1 C3 [5 @% Isee #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->' o: |  Q) @7 ?( o
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維/ P0 Y4 K' |+ U9 |1 p% R

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
6 C- L# i  Y% m4 HIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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+ n# O& |/ e5 NAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:2 {: g4 F' {2 i0 K* M: J
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......