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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
/ _6 I, s1 E# H! c我係一個連自己都吳信的人7 p: z9 t7 [* y( F' f- w
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢4 i' X+ r' P: M0 o
道理我知道好多只係做吳到2 ^& ?& Q3 {# X) N8 U8 n
呢D就係做人的悲哀
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6 P- [7 j  M- m$ j8 G4 J) iNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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( l( K3 M6 f5 c3 X" _* N1 l  `Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....! G9 y5 d) Z. W1 ~

1 L8 ~, `  S6 i: @5 K8 E1 cmr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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# Y4 f4 s. o- F4 }, c" L) A+ @  Sstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....( V6 u& t! H1 d3 X% T& ]
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!
6 E" ?' f0 q. ~2 ?( Y5 V) `7 Y我只不過微小的基督徒...................' O) o# o9 j2 Q4 j7 i5 o" V
真的!!這不是反話
' ]! t6 N" f# D- E因為我是情感比理性強的人7 ]+ e9 B. W2 b* [' N
所以哲學是不成的
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,) O0 L: n( K5 ~2 v+ x7 h
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
& T& Y2 M' A0 k- X5 `在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著.../ s$ t& X# |5 Q
正是萬惡之源
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:1 s  _5 l6 b& v$ q8 l9 V8 _
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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3 v  c) {9 C* _2 N( z( s$ gWhat a statement we have here?
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8 M+ Y7 B5 o5 P9 U2 h# D, gJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.1 m' c9 L0 p1 j$ q2 x2 t
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
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  G+ S) ^- C. {( K' w1 [' i3 q5 E"不信也沒損失"
4 P! N3 g+ _6 l9 F! ~Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
/ j8 d% b; h% N) Q% G, `but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD........ g+ r9 X, b+ C4 O7 V0 R

$ q$ m  y- {0 Eit's starting because we have sins......
" ]/ J$ t1 c0 ?( L* p- N" i# msatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us ; T4 `+ r4 P# y
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
) e" o# X6 w% v只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,# d  x$ H" J7 E/ Q
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
6 D. D' L8 W! s+ f$ b; J, m這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全, B4 _5 W' e' |$ J1 B% b
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,% H: ^5 [2 h7 O: K2 @  O+ U
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~3 r# U& \  ~1 [# H( f
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,: ]. }& H  i, O) b8 t
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,  J( m3 |3 V) X" V! D3 W. Y
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
6 p5 U. I- T) ^5 ~1 i: L美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,: a, B1 y: I3 h* E- T$ E
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干# k1 a2 a$ L0 `' j% \
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以下是其他人的見解,
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7 d* f* U) z! j' v# ?' P+ i[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............3 C+ l: j: G: E! b0 K/ m% v( @1 M: D
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!, i+ Q; D: G1 n! {8 U

" i) i& U; X) `1 l同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:/ \: O4 b* H% ^. v; I
.............信耶穌... ...
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Regarding the resurrection....) C2 J- J' `. {2 N0 u3 G7 p
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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$ B7 u9 B+ M6 x0 r4 |) K: FYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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