jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
5 E1 L0 A7 Z- t仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架1 u# I3 y3 m( V, |' a8 q
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7 n9 |% G7 n: U, K6 A# dbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?' p9 ~2 w7 H* L6 @5 ^2 F' b, b
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
/ U* s! }- P* n6 C+ z, Fwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
9 H/ {, v( Z& s; c7 y% y5 lmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
* B2 j  b$ ~! w8 c0 c, {$ B( hbut why jesus need to do this?
* m3 P7 h; Q' V. ]3 S4 Opunsihment for what???
9 i7 M  |7 r* m  N+ h- Zfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
' L0 j# t. _& n! v) o* y( n9 e, jtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
8 s+ x- ^: m& @  Y. T& cbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
$ q8 q5 ~/ l* e9 ~$ z( T! ~0 B2 jwhat will u do???  H5 G; \) ^1 @, ^
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:% y5 M# ?. }( X

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' a6 k4 N, S: J: K+ Z1 _6 byes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉& V6 _3 W, O0 u) n% J
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:( t3 X  b, y" v7 }/ B% B# q
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?+ N6 }5 d* N/ c' Z
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case5 M; H: f: d( E5 ^9 d/ r; p2 e( t; w0 d
why this happen? just simple........punishment$ V0 L( L) c+ ~0 g  f# o7 `7 |
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
7 R4 z6 ^/ H; z% g  A: f5 }but why jesus need to do this?
3 h# T& {3 ]. F* L7 Gpunsihment for what???
& R1 a  K6 A( P' g" h& X4 a3 c  Mfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
0 H8 M: {9 q% O, k7 k, Utry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
6 k" u, u" Y: {9 F6 X! F1 X0 nbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
* N6 |( D) ?7 p0 R4 W) X  cwhat will u do???
6 f' r+ f( W3 Q; C$ q+ }: l6 d# l: N. {9 kjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 2 V3 \/ f& W' j' h& q

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1 b: m; ~; n% Bsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:1 \) }2 ?: M, X2 V9 T. W
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 " L0 r/ {+ U! A1 e1 R* h/ |

+ \+ p8 G9 X0 E7 q% N' a議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days1 k( A3 n3 h* J9 v. I) o  @+ u
honestly, if there is jesus0 ?' K7 E* d. T4 O6 r0 R
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus* t0 k; f5 H5 f9 O0 r
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:6 V' w8 |9 F1 {3 }1 P
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5 ]1 U, p4 z/ e5 g: z! _- y. S% P好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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$ J7 H2 b5 r! J, Wyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
! P9 H7 [, _8 cjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
7 V& Q% Q8 q( q. l  Y3 Tso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......( ~* \$ x* |* s* M6 P$ U
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
) h# O( B/ `. Z  q1 Xbro singgeihot and rest365days
) O; F* j7 b; C. J. Bhonestly, if there is jesus) q; {3 L- L+ B, W
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
! l( H( e: W" q' Iwe can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics0 m$ n2 Y1 u- g( W1 f
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
: `! K$ p; x2 C8 R7 k5 j- [3 W  V自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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$ d0 M. C; A8 [. W' P# Vhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: