jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
) f, p  b; B9 ?9 V- j/ G* x3 x; Gcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case& d0 B* u) w# I- Y/ E7 n5 Y
why this happen? just simple........punishment. U' t4 ]+ F, x* z, z# E
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things & y# M1 J  K# b8 |7 Z2 `! T3 {
but why jesus need to do this?$ C1 }0 U4 b; c+ a
punsihment for what???
: n9 h- B! Y' w1 J# A6 @0 g6 jfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus5 W+ i- u6 b9 u- F: e; R/ f" U
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
/ r8 [' ?; ^2 A# Bbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
" ^% x* F' D9 c, l; a" Zwhat will u do???
7 U1 c* E; Q* Mjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉8 C& j! g% t% W) t& d
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
7 [6 C/ q) @) y2 v3 U) wbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
2 ?- R3 o1 @, p- f. x) Lcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case$ y0 W+ c6 R( p4 O/ s' k. h
why this happen? just simple........punishment: k* R4 a  ^* ?0 I% }1 J# D
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
5 e. ^) _% ?8 s; r& Wbut why jesus need to do this?8 M/ t$ Z/ W2 }
punsihment for what???
- B2 ^! T( ]! X* s  x1 Yfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus3 i6 a7 n; O; P2 N% g: q1 N9 s
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
: V! A. R9 U7 nbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u : ]  D0 g) g8 `9 e/ l
what will u do???
# r  p1 W. S5 c* f5 njust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 6 P5 h2 o2 G' r$ e( ], {! V

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2 U& W  E& X  v* T* msorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:2 L5 |- ?$ L1 v/ N, R
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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# K, ?" P  C: V議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days9 W, G) ^( a5 P  w! N# z
honestly, if there is jesus
& z6 X# h  o4 |+ n- \1 Mhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
3 k8 X0 b. t! }7 k5 \we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:' _  W  A0 a- W, u
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
1 F# `# ?/ k- m3 @8 g6 A% T& o6 yjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
8 \& o; i& W2 P' ^3 m* aso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
; l/ ?: V3 {1 _now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:- e. u* k1 I% P" n  O3 g5 c! y
bro singgeihot and rest365days- F: s  }4 g1 a& x
honestly, if there is jesus/ d( A' z, G6 y$ d. ^1 @/ W1 c1 y
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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( j3 _" T( j( b6 {9 U0 e3 W9 \understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics) o# u$ b9 R( f- ?0 I: @& \
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:4 [* ^/ w% A" n5 u8 v4 A! z1 U
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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6 \+ \9 J0 W4 `4 v+ Ghaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: