jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:1 J! s& l3 [' Y6 \0 |' Q5 L& @
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架! h& o. P& F  J7 f# N! q( d
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?- c3 I. o7 v8 d; F1 `1 e! G
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case0 l' F+ ?+ k, k( e  M- v) a
why this happen? just simple........punishment; V2 s2 L' A  F9 q: O5 C
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
$ R8 W* m+ s6 {) o1 @8 s& \7 ~0 lbut why jesus need to do this?
3 m/ o* c! f8 W; s* @* Ipunsihment for what???9 n: G) x7 f! q
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus+ h6 T! b) b) x% w& O# {! @
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers& Y  W; h5 E4 T
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u " L3 u" O% e% \  s+ R% H
what will u do???
3 _; V+ Q, K9 Q3 l4 o+ S4 N* q: Jjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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5 D# f. v% l& F咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉( d1 q* D% d/ k! B+ I
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:7 T, B( O1 L& ?( s9 s! u
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
3 X: w" L% t3 gcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case- I/ o& ?& Q) N! v
why this happen? just simple........punishment
# V! ]7 f( V* {1 qmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
4 k4 X) y8 W% a8 c1 t7 @but why jesus need to do this?3 Q) Q- F  {% ]3 _0 s
punsihment for what???
# W' u1 |; a7 J& x  N$ \, q+ ^for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus* Y6 E7 P3 c; s4 ^; l. l1 X. e+ Z! O
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers: G, p0 V& q1 M% J5 Q8 A
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u + z# u0 a/ M" h7 p0 f: m
what will u do???' ?4 O7 _+ f5 Q8 _
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:3 ?, t: C+ ^1 ]" o5 g6 u
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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5 g, V  q3 h2 K8 o  h好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 4 d. I. `: d, ~

' S' e& {7 F& X+ Z  A# U4 w7 h議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days4 H" n- F9 n7 K' n6 |6 G
honestly, if there is jesus
5 n' |8 k! {- U2 Ahe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus5 @& L, {  c  f& u
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life+ V6 b' ~. f. u/ k# ]8 L* H0 L
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it1 ~1 N2 ~  M. y* Q
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
7 h! L! h& y9 z5 Inow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:8 G: t0 Z3 ^, \6 z, U
bro singgeihot and rest365days
; O. j- P- B  o2 Rhonestly, if there is jesus5 _8 V8 \% S; Q" t5 i: X
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus3 j" r% P- b: b& `9 n4 s
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
' B. o; z6 D( H8 o. o" Cotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
6 h, r, r3 M4 ]/ v自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: