jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
% P5 e, w0 z& u2 {5 K( _* ~仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架6 \& j; _# k0 ^; N2 I0 q9 w" u7 b/ ?
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
2 q, u: L- F4 gcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case  P4 _* w8 x1 P$ N
why this happen? just simple........punishment8 d1 \! p- z+ |. a5 u
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things : @1 B* c7 C( h- J" g
but why jesus need to do this?; d- L( k0 v% u- Q; M. r
punsihment for what???
4 o7 o  N  }7 r( p+ z3 {" m9 o: C; Rfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
% I. Z% i  Z! q5 Utry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
/ m  B3 N3 A  M) p# ^# B5 U  Kbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
7 j& X. ]5 p( ^; \; J. N8 ]what will u do???
  Z& H5 L5 x% o* i  H  m- Ejust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:) r* `- g& ?+ d/ _) [( v0 G

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉5 g# W$ c1 L! h) G9 T9 M- V

' Y3 ?  {0 @. l$ q$ `: f$ A  h但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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+ k1 D7 t7 |2 s( N. u- b咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:1 O& O8 ^. ]0 A( M/ I+ h' Y
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
% `4 O: l; `+ p; Q" o/ c4 C% Zcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case6 }3 }) V0 Q' b+ J3 Z- A/ k
why this happen? just simple........punishment/ h6 E  E/ C5 d# b! c# d  P
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
0 R, G5 ~4 j& J1 V. g) S7 rbut why jesus need to do this?0 b2 E. U% E* E8 N) T& c
punsihment for what???
4 E! _" n* @% l* Ufor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus' r* _- B) v* M: S6 i" N+ m
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
+ G4 G, O9 e8 ?% a8 h; D4 qbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u ) o0 T0 S1 t7 G& {, N+ [+ \
what will u do???
% l; m: I( g- l3 R/ \% ljust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, " |5 @  r$ r: [! |% _/ S; J

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:5 M/ a4 @; O# V# p. O5 P2 P, H

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bro, did u know that there is a...

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# f+ ]% [) p1 q5 u3 J- `好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 0 f9 I- x+ c! o

6 Y* z6 r5 T# ], y議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days2 T8 u7 Q( z. p: H
honestly, if there is jesus; t5 L, W6 g" H9 u: u' k
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus  r/ k% n9 a  b. R
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life/ Z+ Y: n0 x& K7 p' D9 e# O# A, [
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
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now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:4 H- g. C" z: @  b
bro singgeihot and rest365days
' e: N( F( f1 F0 T0 i$ vhonestly, if there is jesus6 _! u6 J5 v) n7 u! c. }/ Z4 b# ]
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
$ [( l) n% H4 l+ x! H( lwe can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
( Y9 G4 i5 G# notherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:; _' s/ I" r+ F* R3 I% }
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: