jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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% r0 e7 c( {' ?. }: Pbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?7 L8 b& n& K3 b+ x- c; t8 M# u
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case" w' ^( v: T! e: V* T% x9 {
why this happen? just simple........punishment& e* S% P! S! G
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
# t5 a* [2 ]* bbut why jesus need to do this?
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but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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+ O% O0 m, ~+ ]7 A咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉4 e1 h4 k/ s" N/ w

, o) X6 F2 S) x5 ^3 Y6 l2 q/ e但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排9 T) s' H9 j* @. z& @

2 Z  H+ |& U1 a6 R! O) h8 e: r& i$ Q6 J咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
2 Y; S+ `4 Z3 p. Y1 xbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
, V+ s& ~- i  k9 d. E$ Qcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
- W4 V& X1 O% r' G1 awhy this happen? just simple........punishment
% s/ K+ l; z, E4 \3 vmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 6 \% W9 ^$ O: c
but why jesus need to do this?
( Y5 D3 B5 Z4 V5 jpunsihment for what???* k+ j  o) W( J. v& v" P* t; u  I2 Y/ P
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus/ g5 n3 A" w7 I9 y: S/ C0 ~- V! A
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers/ v0 Q; {' g: p  N# O: q) \5 {( }
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
" u' m/ _: Y9 A4 J2 U7 Q- K" {what will u do???- a# {' T0 o3 i7 J4 n; S
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:+ `8 w: u2 F7 Q( H
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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4 y7 x9 k' O0 J$ C4 L好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days: A' w8 p  E5 a, _
honestly, if there is jesus
" O& D1 y2 C$ `9 f$ x0 ahe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus8 V8 Y0 e, X) p, H" P1 s/ o. g
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:7 u, H3 J2 v3 c7 ~

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life0 C8 K" @) w2 h) k2 T- R. W
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it2 z5 j+ l( Z5 S3 D
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
7 g% w' a! |0 h0 T1 H! s; know, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:6 m' O# B6 n7 |
bro singgeihot and rest365days' \9 |9 K9 m& s; J
honestly, if there is jesus
6 l2 J: `! C% M7 C+ g  P# b% o0 [he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus! h  W; }( ]2 H2 w- u' y
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics% G  I! r7 {; K1 J# P9 l7 G3 v) T
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:& G9 P$ V* Z3 m; N! m* H3 t
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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" F' C/ N0 U2 Z  t- {haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: