jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:9 q' d* x! S/ S1 f# k
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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( W4 e2 k% a/ @( ^) C- xbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?4 y: e. b, d" a' n
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case; ]- R; P, B& U/ A
why this happen? just simple........punishment2 H' V" P3 h+ v. l; A' T
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 7 K# x0 f0 U) ]3 `" E6 ~. ~
but why jesus need to do this?, H2 D  W2 X$ D4 c4 w3 u$ I7 k
punsihment for what???
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try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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8 |' O0 B% F, T7 r1 a3 k+ ~; M咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
( y2 [" V* m* X( sbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?+ |# Y; X5 {" r( g6 t
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
' \8 T* o* C/ g4 b2 J: l; [7 |+ `% Cwhy this happen? just simple........punishment4 b3 u" h/ E2 J4 D7 V  K8 O
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 0 y: R4 W, F" T7 ?1 B- J
but why jesus need to do this?% o8 w7 i3 R- d. t5 S& ?5 k
punsihment for what???
! V1 G2 v0 O# Y( x% p: y7 Tfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus* Z, ?3 [: R" T6 ~
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers, d' x  P5 Z  U0 h$ z( Z, \* i
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
, c/ d8 f6 G- ~3 lwhat will u do???
4 m/ ^+ ]7 m  }  h7 Kjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:1 @$ r/ c& D' m

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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 8 T$ u* F5 F2 A5 B& Q3 F
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days$ h' n  u6 d: i
honestly, if there is jesus. L6 l5 H. v) B. |% R& m" B
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus- T( C, m6 t7 m# S, @% \
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:0 l; v' \4 o( \  B# b

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
+ g$ f0 ?9 ]- b& s( @! H" Jjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
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now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
2 I+ y; N( J" Gbro singgeihot and rest365days8 ?' o* w4 M) b8 K* j2 T
honestly, if there is jesus& N0 I8 W* j% G+ [! `7 v, q6 R* b
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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, E' n0 U# J: _7 l4 ?3 D9 R' Punderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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* @0 V, t' c' i/ V" r8 F! Shaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: