jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:  V; R) u- x) Z7 \& B
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架; O0 L$ X: L  e, k
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?- `7 ]* Z. t6 `
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
+ H1 l  M3 X. _$ D6 ^why this happen? just simple........punishment' @% e1 O! S$ w9 T9 ~
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ) M, z  H1 T5 t: R& d' d9 N8 q: v0 a
but why jesus need to do this?
8 }- Z# X# t, z/ ~* }: u% Ipunsihment for what???
% b' h( h8 x5 g( lfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
3 f+ _- S( t, w% R- h, q3 e9 z. Gtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
1 F$ j; J6 |: }9 nbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 3 J/ |; z8 k' ], x0 l
what will u do???
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singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:  p1 d; k6 ?" H  D( I
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, t+ f# t, {0 K  kyes, what did u think is what i...

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8 ?/ ^  e% t/ H2 n* P  `8 I# m咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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  X- d" Q5 T+ E咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
' n  `  S& ?/ v2 ibro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
; ]$ p; X7 X; m& z) wcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
: q5 O3 b6 c6 P7 X4 F" Twhy this happen? just simple........punishment
7 }# R7 T6 q9 w/ L/ Pmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
5 [) U2 a* t, m# H2 v$ kbut why jesus need to do this?8 N' }; z+ F2 }8 X; c+ y9 c- D
punsihment for what???
3 A6 C0 m3 N4 [( M5 m, t% ~: K. _for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus+ T: N$ ^4 L% W( w
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
; C2 n, m- U( o. Q4 Y- ^9 [8 xbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
5 ^: ~/ N& V0 \8 w  x' pwhat will u do???
. u& x$ Y- v3 cjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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  L+ @+ T1 x2 esorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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4 l5 U& P! @7 D  z9 j好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 ( f) h3 ^, T/ Y5 W! ?
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days8 ~6 m  e8 ^# z6 l& h: y- H* d
honestly, if there is jesus
3 O: N5 f+ U, [0 ?4 r$ c! z7 vhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus& p3 M9 U! G: G+ K! G
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:) ~* u) X% ]4 c7 N$ H
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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; g0 a. P3 p/ |: M3 b  y. {yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life: H3 l* _) j, o6 D' h! N
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
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now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:/ b; n0 g) O+ t, y" |0 T* {
bro singgeihot and rest365days
! O4 P  k5 }3 }4 D' Xhonestly, if there is jesus
1 M% Y( H5 b4 p/ e  {! x' P: ihe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
. M0 h" e; W( Q3 \. {* Bwe can't blow him :cool:

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% P3 n: Y7 w% S( H7 u2 W" l: Vunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
' o3 u1 Q+ d0 }- j+ o0 c, y/ F6 W9 uotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
: a& m1 I  M& J. T. b自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: