jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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& J) d3 M) L% @, p( hbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
7 Z' y) H* \* \6 O' H  W' U& X; g- P2 Tcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
2 k* o: ^& d9 x* {2 E- Q4 h0 fwhy this happen? just simple........punishment8 [! @; b5 W. L. j! N$ Q
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
4 |. y# T4 k+ Obut why jesus need to do this?/ R. j$ C9 a5 H6 j
punsihment for what???
9 x! L1 v' S0 S+ J' J! i7 _4 D4 ^: qfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus+ D/ u4 u5 z6 Y7 U
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
) w5 _0 D9 d: E7 C  T0 \/ J  mbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u * ?2 |& V  A' l2 U9 I3 }0 i
what will u do???. n3 V, M4 V1 U  O* ^
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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7 T0 Y1 M8 r1 D+ ^) Z6 |但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:. W6 k* e: s9 z: u& r
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?. @: {5 j0 e, J* t" N2 ~
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case2 E( ?. j' L5 H/ C! U
why this happen? just simple........punishment
& r0 l+ C7 e* i3 _$ U7 ^/ kmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
' B; U  e! I& i7 q( }but why jesus need to do this?
% B# x0 w3 I" F) rpunsihment for what???+ r' B" f$ r) V* \! U3 a, L8 V2 o- Q
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus) s8 @0 t% ?4 x3 @3 S1 ]1 i
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers* X% r* J; v- n1 Q* B
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 2 I; t0 ?$ m# ?1 d: j( A
what will u do???
7 _, i, t2 X: w) W' f' _6 K3 t0 Zjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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, D/ o) `# z9 [$ O$ l7 r$ h# ]' _sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:* ]% Y4 K: [# K: h/ L& g

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bro, did u know that there is a...

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* Y; {# ^8 \$ V5 ^8 s+ h/ m% z議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
2 O/ D# z+ Y, a' khonestly, if there is jesus6 n7 C! o# Y# x3 _% b+ H( D6 D
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:/ U+ T" |! N4 |1 t* R' e$ {2 t1 p# k3 e

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/ \9 @$ `% H  i- hyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life. A" O8 [. L3 C8 `% u
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it$ {, Z9 W5 ^; @- P, N( Z
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
- {7 E) X; d7 T3 J9 |9 v0 nnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
+ A& x2 t2 E7 Q1 b$ y4 v6 P6 Kbro singgeihot and rest365days- v6 I' a+ W/ p# w0 h
honestly, if there is jesus0 K; M  P+ W8 Q% l0 D
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus! v7 j0 F% k! L/ m, C: r5 r8 L
we can't blow him :cool:

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$ o5 w. l$ F* `8 bunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics3 j3 o( h3 @" y2 {
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
7 H+ C/ M3 a$ E& a, G自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: