jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:' E" h' o# o8 l. F: e9 F+ n
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架( x, {% x5 `8 b  ~# _$ W& \3 y
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( i: K2 k' k# K- M9 z& R! n4 \bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?! N* D+ q& P. |+ ?/ I
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
0 |+ i( J4 V3 {7 h) `4 X- S5 P) x* Q# fwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
2 e% Z/ B' P7 H9 w- ^7 ]7 c3 _many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
( F. j8 b' L( y' h: w- L  e: s$ pbut why jesus need to do this?
/ A, X0 F8 P( f% r; Rpunsihment for what???
2 x; J- ~, ?1 f) p0 v& y- gfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
: x5 _1 x3 H/ i+ ytry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
$ F/ v: |) {) h! F9 I8 Nbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u   u# ^2 c3 L  T( N4 Q$ Q
what will u do???
  x! O- }2 P6 p4 i; e  Pjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:* Q, d% j7 z* `) u  d" g
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% x/ m4 m; c, M- R0 O4 x0 e咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉, `* C2 w- C% R- ]; V0 Y! N
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排8 Y7 g# n7 o# R
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
( r6 e8 G' ]! A/ vbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
* G! X2 l) ^7 h( l  ]4 Vcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case7 x* a8 B6 ^3 P% A0 |
why this happen? just simple........punishment
' o5 Z- A: ~" x: |1 J/ b" ?+ v5 J+ vmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
0 i5 I; P9 G7 `- L  Y( {( ?7 tbut why jesus need to do this?2 p( [2 d' [9 m; P* V  F  u
punsihment for what???$ E: a* c5 r/ q0 v" |$ W- Y5 }
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
5 H  @- z" _& t. D# Stry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers/ b* z9 h/ z1 B1 ]& g7 V
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u # @" ~" Q# Z2 ~; u4 k% g7 R
what will u do???
  R" z# |) p5 K  s: zjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 0 [$ X2 O8 o8 z8 s; Q# G

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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2 ?" w0 H6 @! t. o好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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# [( j" q& C) q議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days- F+ G1 i; h: T  s! d5 b
honestly, if there is jesus
5 _- `2 R  U9 A/ |he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus, I- [& V. n$ z
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:/ S9 n, X5 p+ d1 R

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
' E" g0 v* e% b# b1 }7 Hjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it2 H- ~" h5 D8 M# f; M
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
- p, A/ d. e5 J1 `% O/ Anow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:) Y3 {# H# v0 M
bro singgeihot and rest365days) u7 f* N; H6 x+ v( q! {
honestly, if there is jesus
6 [! u  B  N1 y7 E$ Fhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
8 D( K, `" L; |* I* M# @we can't blow him :cool:

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4 s$ A' T3 Q. @: v. }understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics4 t6 K3 K7 u$ C' e8 V
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:3 F) \* s* @  k; B' y$ \
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: