jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?3 a  v7 ^: ~5 U  g3 O5 [. a2 C
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case' j$ I2 {; a( g0 I. f: ?! [/ R
why this happen? just simple........punishment
7 s/ ]- I5 H& f, k) Y, U6 ~many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
, I) e, L3 N" j% H) J# x. [. }but why jesus need to do this?
2 U) O! h( x9 t; s+ F( ~punsihment for what???
$ T. Z7 E3 l: w* F  y* qfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
/ c) p, _" w9 o: ~  s& itry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers% W9 i" p# Q3 o+ P
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u * u# Y6 h3 B# M; ~. A- E
what will u do???2 Q9 Y+ F4 W/ ~: r8 T0 x
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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* r$ u5 K  J% H" G' J1 o但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:7 G: B; n- m. H: R# j( H, W6 H$ ^
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
4 w! a9 P4 H6 F# R, [$ Ncomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
  d& M: z# G( g) ~. i6 n$ `why this happen? just simple........punishment
5 v/ x. I; |" V8 s5 F3 imany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
3 _" n) E  [+ n8 j& p! y, _but why jesus need to do this?# ]" z" k3 ~9 j
punsihment for what???, x1 |. ]# i8 \  p' S! G
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
1 F  ~6 l1 p. y' ?try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
$ a" ~3 E- _) z$ a7 s2 s+ Wbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 6 r8 V7 S. e; }8 S, h
what will u do???( ]% _/ x! k5 L: F8 i+ b3 Z+ d
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days( a! f4 ?4 S3 I' b# {* n0 X  _
honestly, if there is jesus$ ~& B" p( I6 e
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
7 R2 X* s: w* y* t, H* ewe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:* e1 ~, l9 Q$ Z" B

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
* B  G! _+ e( r7 |/ Y+ x% Ojust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
8 E' J9 @6 w& o: R1 I: eso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......3 \1 {( m/ A0 q: `- s6 z2 H
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:' r+ ~( l7 e6 t+ U! P* m
bro singgeihot and rest365days
! M% r8 Y1 X+ \/ O8 v6 f/ p- l6 `honestly, if there is jesus
4 Q6 Q4 `- `9 H1 [  `he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
: P7 M/ d# t$ u* }; c" D0 Awe can't blow him :cool:

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$ a7 r0 D  T% K. g2 Sunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
' m( ?' N( }) Z& k  hotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: