jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
8 }. |3 Y* R1 m( @仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?" u' t$ ~- Q8 ?$ a) n, J
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case) A8 I& p  h! L. I/ p  V
why this happen? just simple........punishment
: X: x. e, ^- p& [many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 6 {) ?! f/ b+ L) B9 n- J1 f
but why jesus need to do this?) y& U, A$ @& n/ w5 a7 Y5 u+ p
punsihment for what???( I; y% T7 M, q6 J
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus1 H/ }% V2 C4 V% s" U
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers2 h7 E* i* g& k' v( P" }9 S
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:. I# @5 J0 g7 D' Y9 t5 i

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' q- R7 w( h  `6 Q咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
6 l  E! ?' `  Y% M* A  E( lbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
0 x# V" t& H% a. B' [comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
* J. ^2 Z9 Z$ F6 C5 bwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
& K* T7 v5 P- C" Cmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
9 I/ U" z/ I4 H4 i, S& T6 K4 X# d! S/ |but why jesus need to do this?
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try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
+ F( z. H! m, T( Fbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
/ H$ q( o! l% K( G$ Q  Uwhat will u do???# t% h$ K7 Q  F6 z  f
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 2 q; P# m1 ?' g/ T, e

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) e' J5 @) E1 `0 w  j. J; R& ksorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:! w' ?; S/ w$ O+ Q0 ^6 ^7 u+ z
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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5 g" A- c2 C8 x* M  O4 J; U好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 : ?; i8 j' U/ p4 ?( W

% ?) I4 D6 O6 o& L9 E$ m$ `議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days3 N( u1 _" n- ?1 P5 l- t: }7 q0 Z
honestly, if there is jesus% ]1 k( d6 B# a$ y- f8 y
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:& R7 \' @+ m8 Y, N7 L1 |; E

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
- {! [7 P4 q; ?just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
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now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
  _% u/ v: W/ ]% E! {) h, q/ N: kbro singgeihot and rest365days
! J: T/ x1 ~7 W! Thonestly, if there is jesus( C' |4 q7 K9 n  g# v. ^0 P
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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0 L0 n3 |" I8 @! M' d( w' {, Kunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics7 [4 g2 }1 R' L8 [4 G0 N2 F9 K7 `
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: