jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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+ L  W$ h2 C9 X& a+ rbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
8 T1 Q: h2 {& t% T5 w! }! `comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
' R* |6 n4 n8 o- {* Nwhy this happen? just simple........punishment8 ~( O) P7 Q9 a! o7 M
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things # F! H+ K9 L) t4 D
but why jesus need to do this?% m4 F9 K7 B1 N
punsihment for what???4 ^6 e9 r/ t9 Z$ r) H2 a' d$ y
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
+ \$ `' w9 |& |) Btry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
; W+ r* d7 W! J# j2 z7 g/ Kbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u $ s% q% a3 H! ]( E# G. v
what will u do???$ i* i7 G+ q3 ^
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉& R# t0 K& {! d

7 E& `/ N: E  F但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排" x3 B- a% M& D6 j) @
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
- c3 ^4 l! u& b9 wbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
, u* r7 u8 G( ?9 y' {7 \' Acomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case% l  q" }) i* p6 Z# ~* q
why this happen? just simple........punishment
6 o) Z/ e" E$ W: H; k( S6 m& \# dmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 6 q+ _6 j( {  q- U
but why jesus need to do this?: R) T- G: T1 A1 v& k: M' j
punsihment for what???, k9 j$ c/ }2 i! W% C
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus5 J" M+ N4 N! e0 F
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
8 J, B/ O. `4 z# Mbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
( J- l6 o% g- |what will u do???
' q- y8 k' j2 W7 v/ u# ~. m3 ?just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 4 g! b/ N) G/ ?, O" ^4 g
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days4 }* v8 \: y, _/ A2 z7 Q% k) B5 z
honestly, if there is jesus, z! |* M6 i7 `; a9 }2 i
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus* P; O9 `1 C- M7 n+ z' e
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life5 k" z- ~7 ~7 q( M3 }. J+ K' C3 T
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
7 I4 g, n2 W) n+ rso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......  f. j6 v: \0 v" B* E3 ?
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
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honestly, if there is jesus; r4 i4 d& W' G6 U- l; O
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus# M8 \; M& R* ?) z  T
we can't blow him :cool:

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/ b4 B6 c. t: I; j* v! lunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics( ^% h' l9 o3 z* ]
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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2 L4 ^( `4 q/ L$ q" \$ f2 Lhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: