jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
/ W4 ]5 V& h: M2 @6 o  v) Xcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case+ W2 M. \7 Y! l
why this happen? just simple........punishment
9 W& f" o8 v9 x( _( w. }many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 0 g0 v1 O$ K0 Z/ B0 u9 x
but why jesus need to do this?
/ v, i" R! C, i* _punsihment for what???9 }) l' r; D- o
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus5 P- a' q  P7 K, l
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
9 F! U+ x5 r6 @8 a- b) rbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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. S& ~2 E8 t3 j' M% \! ]$ \* fjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
! k. E3 d  ?1 L; Kbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?8 u* u. _) A0 G# N: ?& f* h
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case. H" R/ e9 _! g: V
why this happen? just simple........punishment
8 @. K- u- x0 hmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things + B% Z9 m* y$ k
but why jesus need to do this?
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, G& A; O9 l# f8 Bfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus  R3 t4 r0 i' k/ m9 H: k6 e: g" O. p
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers5 p: K/ H5 {/ F6 I; D
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u + G7 w) M7 n5 [5 `  r' u
what will u do???9 |0 t; ~6 H. C; y
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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. w2 h0 r. R2 F$ s8 v! h好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 6 F' L# |* U- H8 b1 B/ b5 z9 \
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days- e# r% i4 ~" c3 i# x6 {9 \; A, }
honestly, if there is jesus
  P6 U! V- H' L# X7 vhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
! h: p* P2 q4 e2 {  Y: I3 d1 fwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:0 J- ^7 Y) k3 h5 W" T2 y6 a) c

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  ]6 o% `% R: u* B+ {" Zyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life( ^  r0 m0 K! O- E6 e! N
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it) ~/ R& v8 r9 Q
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
6 q6 V6 h& |5 n* e# Z& Onow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:$ n2 o3 U. c& F5 s
bro singgeihot and rest365days& k0 M: @6 V& f9 W: d
honestly, if there is jesus; B/ z2 {: [$ X. v, y
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus, u2 X. d* D* T7 x' y
we can't blow him :cool:

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! x- s+ O8 ]! `* E$ {& U3 J' z9 q; Tunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics( [& x4 N4 P, O8 m; I7 o7 W
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:' Z2 R; B0 v" X; y; \
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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. Z! @; W2 {' `haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: