jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:& l9 W9 f' h0 Z  V$ S: U, l( O: i) z
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架& v8 }: n5 s# ]' P( f1 _3 u% c5 c( F
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
$ E6 X# U  c, V3 [comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
& z; a" z0 z- t! B" Xwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
  r3 J! W! Q9 S3 f3 `4 k3 i0 lmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things , p! X# J9 i; n( f# V: n# \3 A
but why jesus need to do this?
6 n7 c2 l8 a% upunsihment for what???3 i5 O& ~5 o( }- |( s- F
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
# N/ _4 \8 M# V" k$ [) L" \try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers3 O* D. S; V/ M8 m3 O% b( Z
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:5 V1 ?' _0 t+ z

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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉) Z( o& B( h  g! B7 E; G

$ V  K6 s- Y0 i' [但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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' z" q. i7 C- t# D. s5 R( U咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:0 \2 W' R- e, W) i: B" ^2 ^
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
3 ]1 |& r( l5 v* [comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
/ |  i3 ]  B+ gwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
  M! N. d- S* M* \. Gmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ( U  a( W- i$ D& p' j% S) b
but why jesus need to do this?
" u8 g& C4 ^- upunsihment for what???
* J: c6 O( U  r$ a5 hfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
2 n+ y+ w: L" S' T7 n' D, z9 a" Gtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
* r. u) S% x! Y, k2 @4 \but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u   S5 |0 r, X2 n$ S6 A* \
what will u do???
5 j! c! \% k( S# V0 p% Xjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 0 T7 D* ~( L; C% L1 o" P

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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: f: h- F: X/ K# M- F好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days; K6 \) Z1 @1 K, t
honestly, if there is jesus! N& G; y5 D6 @
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
$ G2 U  Q8 J+ X" C& ^! {/ x) ^; Jwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life, \, s8 d5 f$ O- S& d7 `
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it% M$ Z0 C, L2 x. e
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......9 i1 A3 b! \; p3 E* {7 `
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:, ?0 y, E! h3 o
bro singgeihot and rest365days9 G  w  Q) O; a
honestly, if there is jesus
$ |/ ?% C" a, {6 h) bhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
$ L( @8 u: t0 R: qwe can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
: c1 n# L2 N3 ]% x% jotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:( D6 s  p3 L  k8 ?9 A7 R
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: