jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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6 X- X9 }3 u1 P9 Z/ Kbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?* E0 H- s# x3 ?9 E  ?. E
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
, J* x3 r" ?1 v1 Q2 \6 Ywhy this happen? just simple........punishment% k3 f. A% d( I2 w9 M
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things # Y3 S* n7 Y  E! J
but why jesus need to do this?8 z1 q- W* S3 l, \8 P7 f  c
punsihment for what???6 z5 E  I5 X: x$ i6 ]. p+ i* d% A* q
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus) W& k( h  S2 w( f9 ^! t* l0 s
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers* ], n$ D0 E. r$ B
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
2 b1 ~, l. e' {/ v& D9 y* |what will u do???
* [$ o0 m3 b) njust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:- u0 v: H! q1 s( T) {

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yes, what did u think is what i...

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+ q" |' z( F& G* A( h( v咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉3 a+ `3 `: w3 q4 R: t9 R

( r  X- Y: [2 Q( N, l: s+ ^! N% a但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排2 F1 [3 L1 ^; }0 O) ~3 s
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
6 H7 p" F( t  a, i4 v+ Z1 vbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
- v$ ]) J- N- z; b# s/ t2 a+ Hcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case( {$ V/ C- v5 B& I" I: w8 D- |! D
why this happen? just simple........punishment2 m$ P8 Z: `) u6 g# y0 y
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
' q  Q) W) H7 X0 [. ?& Rbut why jesus need to do this?
& e7 H( ^! [1 b: J6 ^punsihment for what???3 x8 H: t+ @$ ]# ]% m8 j: c; J/ y
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus) Q$ K9 @# {, J; N/ B
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
, G" A7 y" y; A. x! u$ lbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
6 H* i* S7 r. d% J# @  Hwhat will u do???/ N; ?/ V; K& Y9 S' _4 l; [$ V
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, / Z, o1 D" l4 n) I+ [) t: V. A

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# w) e% x# W: L& x) bsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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5 M# a6 Y: R' |5 f+ X# y- V7 q# Wbro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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( A: p$ H) D2 z2 Z% }7 I議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
2 b; k/ e' F) G2 |; o% Vhonestly, if there is jesus* W5 \* d$ p: t6 [3 h0 ^
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
: ~! D: O9 Y% t* ^$ W# j6 E4 Xwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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: ?  q0 c$ T8 d1 K/ i! ~% E9 Ayes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life% ~0 G9 B6 Y, \" F1 ]3 t" U
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:, N' M- u8 }3 W' T) T
bro singgeihot and rest365days0 ~: U; T" S; [3 `- ^
honestly, if there is jesus% h1 z, U) F; x/ \, i7 ^1 P
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus* k4 k" v9 e) g+ G- n5 b9 ~7 k: v
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
1 g+ H9 b1 M5 n. ?otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:1 ~7 S; C+ {; k3 v  s
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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$ S0 z1 J8 D4 I- b8 Uhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: