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Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 12:31 AM:7 c1 z1 p9 U' o

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This is a good po ...

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多謝哂. 在我的定義中, "努力"係指一個人無論做佢鍾唔鍾意的事, 佢都會全力以赴. 好似<長今>咁, 就算叫佢洗碗, 幫宮女按摩, 佢都全力做好. 呢d就係"努力".
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相反, 如果一個人有某方面天份, 但佢只係在這方面"努力", 做其他事就求求其其, 甚至有d事佢應該要做, 但係因為佢對呢樣野冇天份而唔去做, 佢都唔算係真正"努力".
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& b( y& D. W' V9 }例如一個科學家佢對研究有天份同在這方面很努力, 但係佢表達能力極差, 如果佢唔"努力"改善表達能力, 佢都唔可以將d成果同其他人分享.

icefire

我覺天份90%, 努力10%
  w3 @7 T: E0 q會考就係最好的例子.: [0 q. Z* b* s7 T* I' \$ C
就以會考數學緊講, 有d人真係唔洗溫書, 做幾年past paper就攞個A.

奇

有天份又努力再加運氣就更好

crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-26 03:00 AM:* L  ?+ {& l1 _

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yes, i get yr poi ...

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psycho is hard~.~
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i'll try to think about it more deeply later on
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( O* |* }7 p8 s8 N# c( v% Lgood to chat with u, more of this kind of topics will come, see you there~

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-26 01:57 PM:  G6 `. }9 ?, Q0 S
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多謝哂. 在我的定義中, &quo ...

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8 c) d" q" d/ N0 k- w# V我明白你的觀點, 在小弟的定義中, 如果一個人平時不努力, 但遇到喜歡做的事會努力做, 那也算是努力了 4 {6 L: B1 f1 b4 u' e. o' o
以追女仔為例, 一個平日多懶的人, 也會出力追女孩子吧, 那也算是努力呀
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哈哈, 有少少離題了, 不過最重要大家傾得開心

singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:44 PM:$ n$ W% R$ V! b% ~' L7 s
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我 ...

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. P4 ^* ]& @0 \3 l" J8 D8 Y哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.  s% k9 Z0 U9 r* `- A. a0 r. P7 P
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哈哈, 我都有少少離題了.

jason williams

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:36 PM:% C8 M. H/ a1 x) C7 \9 N3 S

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' r& ]. s$ `) d, K4 ohaha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-27 01:53 AM:0 F! m* ?" ]0 T# b2 C7 w& o
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哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.( R: L( p7 J0 }" h$ I7 }+ g" _

  s: J% B" N5 J' Q) s哈哈, 我都有少少離題了

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哈哈, 你努力時可能會發現了自己的天份呢) b9 x3 U' N& a7 J

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你有無試下答大義滅親果條呀, 都幾好玩嫁   <----- 哈哈, 剛發現你答了, 多謝支持3 T6 K6 B& c9 E- j% H: ~

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crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-27 01:54 AM:# \. m# v0 R. b( g  M' ~" P
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haha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

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) o  G3 b* ?! L3 a, P; Y3 zhaha, me 2, similar type of brain teasing topics will be made everyday (ideally)
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, O! ?% F: ^3 {$ c" @! kagain, have u tried the 大義滅親 one? that's quite funny IMO
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jason williams

haha, leave jor some comment about it la
0 @  ]6 a( Y3 H& M. \; Lbesides, crap! interest to ask u7 H8 g; x$ d* ^6 U. t3 [
which faculty u are studying, u seems interest in thinking and doing research on social, psycho and philiosophy!