singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 12:31 AM:, Y; p$ k: J$ B: Y
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多謝哂. 在我的定義中, "努力"係指一個人無論做佢鍾唔鍾意的事, 佢都會全力以赴. 好似<長今>咁, 就算叫佢洗碗, 幫宮女按摩, 佢都全力做好. 呢d就係"努力".7 t" |3 w: F; Z! N* }' B5 ?

' H1 d, i6 U& u* g$ b# x& v相反, 如果一個人有某方面天份, 但佢只係在這方面"努力", 做其他事就求求其其, 甚至有d事佢應該要做, 但係因為佢對呢樣野冇天份而唔去做, 佢都唔算係真正"努力".9 {6 {' `8 R8 k5 i

$ ?" ]& O! T. |4 @) H例如一個科學家佢對研究有天份同在這方面很努力, 但係佢表達能力極差, 如果佢唔"努力"改善表達能力, 佢都唔可以將d成果同其他人分享.

icefire

我覺天份90%, 努力10%+ G  @) z, @  i+ q$ l  r* Z5 \7 y
會考就係最好的例子.
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奇

有天份又努力再加運氣就更好

crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-26 03:00 AM:
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um...
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6 ~3 [1 S" R; @: [; Hhaha, anyway, i can see your points, especialy "hard working can be trained by hard working" the idea is fresh to me
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% J$ t& |8 [  X+ `good to chat with u, more of this kind of topics will come, see you there~

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-26 01:57 PM:
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" Y# F% o% V( m多謝哂. 在我的定義中, &quo ...

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  g$ k# Z7 u" O6 U9 x2 hhahhaa, 不用客氣) S  O: _; f% l6 v: C9 J
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我明白你的觀點, 在小弟的定義中, 如果一個人平時不努力, 但遇到喜歡做的事會努力做, 那也算是努力了
8 W" J+ W" {2 p/ l0 B: E8 O以追女仔為例, 一個平日多懶的人, 也會出力追女孩子吧, 那也算是努力呀
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9 D  l- H, d# g4 s+ _哈哈, 有少少離題了, 不過最重要大家傾得開心

singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:44 PM:6 d+ L- u7 P0 l/ L7 }6 I
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hahhaa, 不用客氣! ]8 V% G' ]8 q2 [2 }

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哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.: H) O* N# I0 f  j" I) G

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jason williams

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:36 PM:9 U6 O) X: _. i1 k  D' q  v
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psycho is h ...

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" W2 {3 f6 |3 T$ }" h) l0 @) ]haha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-27 01:53 AM:8 y+ n% p3 w+ a$ C

2 P' G2 u% b2 u& N0 Q哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.- X. ^4 |' n! Z7 f

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; O6 H6 |6 p2 x) b/ |哈哈, 你努力時可能會發現了自己的天份呢
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; F) K* G( q: x4 S0 k: \同類既topic會盡量日日都出, 希望大家可以一齊用下腦袋啦
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crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-27 01:54 AM:9 s/ W( K% p" e
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haha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

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haha, me 2, similar type of brain teasing topics will be made everyday (ideally)# Z" t3 l, d  z% z$ z
pls enjoy& j, ]8 F+ |5 N5 w. }
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again, have u tried the 大義滅親 one? that's quite funny IMO
: A) L/ s: m: S( o, g8 yGive it a go if u have time

jason williams

haha, leave jor some comment about it la8 V8 T5 z# f# g7 A( |$ a. ~
besides, crap! interest to ask u; v8 }9 R# K2 k: E- z2 I% g( F
which faculty u are studying, u seems interest in thinking and doing research on social, psycho and philiosophy!