singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 12:31 AM:
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多謝哂. 在我的定義中, "努力"係指一個人無論做佢鍾唔鍾意的事, 佢都會全力以赴. 好似<長今>咁, 就算叫佢洗碗, 幫宮女按摩, 佢都全力做好. 呢d就係"努力".2 ]) d! [& [" C: i$ P; K

& n, S" i* p8 {: O- e# j7 J相反, 如果一個人有某方面天份, 但佢只係在這方面"努力", 做其他事就求求其其, 甚至有d事佢應該要做, 但係因為佢對呢樣野冇天份而唔去做, 佢都唔算係真正"努力".
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/ g: @5 w# Q  `8 Q例如一個科學家佢對研究有天份同在這方面很努力, 但係佢表達能力極差, 如果佢唔"努力"改善表達能力, 佢都唔可以將d成果同其他人分享.

icefire

我覺天份90%, 努力10%
3 Z2 @8 q/ L! T; X1 X) P0 Z3 d會考就係最好的例子.$ i8 Z! C  |, N( L
就以會考數學緊講, 有d人真係唔洗溫書, 做幾年past paper就攞個A.

奇

有天份又努力再加運氣就更好

crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-26 03:00 AM:7 a" i1 C# s; c9 q; A

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psycho is hard~.~+ G3 S  _+ p" J( Y3 O
haha, anyway, i can see your points, especialy "hard working can be trained by hard working" the idea is fresh to me% d- ~1 U9 S. h" I+ x1 ^0 S0 ]$ Y6 l
i'll try to think about it more deeply later on2 w) ]% A8 d1 ~) I" j: G1 o% f

4 N$ E( o  E% O" ^good to chat with u, more of this kind of topics will come, see you there~

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-26 01:57 PM:- l& Q* M( h9 x* A: Q- a! w

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6 p; L+ F* r, i" V( D: Z多謝哂. 在我的定義中, &quo ...

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hahhaa, 不用客氣+ q: i1 L- Y+ \
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我明白你的觀點, 在小弟的定義中, 如果一個人平時不努力, 但遇到喜歡做的事會努力做, 那也算是努力了 . U, \* B( {+ _
以追女仔為例, 一個平日多懶的人, 也會出力追女孩子吧, 那也算是努力呀7 N; G; R7 }7 l$ E

/ E3 h/ i: r" C, w$ L8 Z, O- w哈哈, 有少少離題了, 不過最重要大家傾得開心

singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:44 PM:
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我 ...

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哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.
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哈哈, 我都有少少離題了.

jason williams

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:36 PM:
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um...
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9 W/ R" l+ I' a+ z8 Dhaha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-27 01:53 AM:
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3 |: h0 D0 Z8 U哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.- m  h4 K( w- y

6 \6 `$ R& e/ f5 s1 f, s9 |哈哈, 我都有少少離題了

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) J; O( `/ G1 a: i哈哈, 你努力時可能會發現了自己的天份呢" D: i8 I6 o; p# |3 R

; v% q9 Y# c' l1 ]6 Q4 n+ \1 z- ?同類既topic會盡量日日都出, 希望大家可以一齊用下腦袋啦
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& s' E) L/ U! p- w( ?你有無試下答大義滅親果條呀, 都幾好玩嫁   <----- 哈哈, 剛發現你答了, 多謝支持
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crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-27 01:54 AM:* y4 P  s( |/ w0 Z$ \* i" t9 \6 c
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haha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

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haha, me 2, similar type of brain teasing topics will be made everyday (ideally)
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again, have u tried the 大義滅親 one? that's quite funny IMO 6 _; v1 k" h( H. z' M
Give it a go if u have time

jason williams

haha, leave jor some comment about it la
4 s2 i. Z. Y+ Bbesides, crap! interest to ask u3 j; L/ h$ \9 t7 i0 P) r( o4 \
which faculty u are studying, u seems interest in thinking and doing research on social, psycho and philiosophy!