singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 12:31 AM:1 p9 x9 Q8 E) ^, h6 h& ^

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/ \+ y3 N# N3 jThis is a good po ...

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多謝哂. 在我的定義中, "努力"係指一個人無論做佢鍾唔鍾意的事, 佢都會全力以赴. 好似<長今>咁, 就算叫佢洗碗, 幫宮女按摩, 佢都全力做好. 呢d就係"努力".
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9 c* L5 c# O5 C3 z相反, 如果一個人有某方面天份, 但佢只係在這方面"努力", 做其他事就求求其其, 甚至有d事佢應該要做, 但係因為佢對呢樣野冇天份而唔去做, 佢都唔算係真正"努力".  [, k. Y8 s- M( N& u6 ]* n3 I0 _2 I
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例如一個科學家佢對研究有天份同在這方面很努力, 但係佢表達能力極差, 如果佢唔"努力"改善表達能力, 佢都唔可以將d成果同其他人分享.

icefire

我覺天份90%, 努力10%6 m  p, g$ b0 {* R1 X
會考就係最好的例子.6 p) x* A  h- z! s
就以會考數學緊講, 有d人真係唔洗溫書, 做幾年past paper就攞個A.

奇

有天份又努力再加運氣就更好

crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-26 03:00 AM:# W1 s4 v! F0 _, E
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yes, i get yr poi ...

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psycho is hard~.~3 J+ ~. {3 B4 }5 c. u
haha, anyway, i can see your points, especialy "hard working can be trained by hard working" the idea is fresh to me
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good to chat with u, more of this kind of topics will come, see you there~

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-26 01:57 PM:4 R2 ]  g" M, D9 ]) y9 g$ [

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6 p- Q. X* Y* N4 }5 S多謝哂. 在我的定義中, &quo ...

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hahhaa, 不用客氣
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3 t9 @# y  L& R* c5 c% v. |/ b我明白你的觀點, 在小弟的定義中, 如果一個人平時不努力, 但遇到喜歡做的事會努力做, 那也算是努力了 . H' E) m5 A# D0 _8 W
以追女仔為例, 一個平日多懶的人, 也會出力追女孩子吧, 那也算是努力呀7 m  @. v; v) T% ~
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哈哈, 有少少離題了, 不過最重要大家傾得開心

singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:44 PM:/ n9 C  C! L& c% A& q3 M

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hahhaa, 不用客氣7 E5 W1 L6 O) S/ ]

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哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.+ @" \2 Q  o9 Q0 O& g2 {* d

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jason williams

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:36 PM:
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psycho is h ...

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haha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-27 01:53 AM:
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$ R! g' O! p0 L* F) ]哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.* `6 m% E3 N! k% y

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同類既topic會盡量日日都出, 希望大家可以一齊用下腦袋啦' x  A9 u: `3 K8 t
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你有無試下答大義滅親果條呀, 都幾好玩嫁   <----- 哈哈, 剛發現你答了, 多謝支持
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[ Last edited by crap on 2005-4-27 at 02:39 AM ]

crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-27 01:54 AM:
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7 h/ ]7 M0 H" X' [% [haha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

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haha, me 2, similar type of brain teasing topics will be made everyday (ideally)
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Give it a go if u have time

jason williams

haha, leave jor some comment about it la
+ E5 i& M- i1 ^9 z2 Ybesides, crap! interest to ask u
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