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Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 12:31 AM:  s4 u' I" p* H; k) T( f  e5 N7 R
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) _: [( Y( G0 _+ t6 b9 o0 ?This is a good po ...

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. @1 Q6 [; ?( ^! D: G' M1 G% V, w多謝哂. 在我的定義中, "努力"係指一個人無論做佢鍾唔鍾意的事, 佢都會全力以赴. 好似<長今>咁, 就算叫佢洗碗, 幫宮女按摩, 佢都全力做好. 呢d就係"努力".. e8 s( z- n. B7 S. s7 P
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相反, 如果一個人有某方面天份, 但佢只係在這方面"努力", 做其他事就求求其其, 甚至有d事佢應該要做, 但係因為佢對呢樣野冇天份而唔去做, 佢都唔算係真正"努力".
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# }+ I4 P' w4 j2 X5 p例如一個科學家佢對研究有天份同在這方面很努力, 但係佢表達能力極差, 如果佢唔"努力"改善表達能力, 佢都唔可以將d成果同其他人分享.

icefire

我覺天份90%, 努力10%' @, ~7 \9 U$ i' b: M6 B
會考就係最好的例子.1 k0 Z) L3 c3 ]! O' u
就以會考數學緊講, 有d人真係唔洗溫書, 做幾年past paper就攞個A.

奇

有天份又努力再加運氣就更好

crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-26 03:00 AM:
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yes, i get yr poi ...

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psycho is hard~.~
  H7 B5 w! x: \1 H/ ~) N$ a' khaha, anyway, i can see your points, especialy "hard working can be trained by hard working" the idea is fresh to me
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+ `4 `' |8 i& O0 H) X' Tgood to chat with u, more of this kind of topics will come, see you there~

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-26 01:57 PM:( E  W0 h7 k+ I2 l1 b
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, W) l! w+ w' l2 f3 A多謝哂. 在我的定義中, &quo ...

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我明白你的觀點, 在小弟的定義中, 如果一個人平時不努力, 但遇到喜歡做的事會努力做, 那也算是努力了 9 q8 R6 o5 n5 K& i5 |+ O5 q
以追女仔為例, 一個平日多懶的人, 也會出力追女孩子吧, 那也算是努力呀
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9 R: D& h8 d5 Y5 ?+ Z+ K( q哈哈, 有少少離題了, 不過最重要大家傾得開心

singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:44 PM:
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hahhaa, 不用客氣3 q1 M* }' T" Z, s+ S( q, E/ s
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我 ...

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4 z$ F' _& @7 B( ^) _哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力." i0 n4 J& x: C; y
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哈哈, 我都有少少離題了.

jason williams

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:36 PM:
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6 r* O4 i0 V0 F4 L8 g. }haha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-27 01:53 AM:. |7 |- u' {8 g8 X$ w. C( o8 K! `

- G" H* S, ?; g$ h哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.
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哈哈, 我都有少少離題了

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哈哈, 你努力時可能會發現了自己的天份呢9 @% |$ l! Q* H" o& T
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同類既topic會盡量日日都出, 希望大家可以一齊用下腦袋啦
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1 a1 s# |$ @0 J0 I你有無試下答大義滅親果條呀, 都幾好玩嫁   <----- 哈哈, 剛發現你答了, 多謝支持
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[ Last edited by crap on 2005-4-27 at 02:39 AM ]

crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-27 01:54 AM:* n) ?; H4 g. r! Q$ ?! S! }
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haha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

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haha, me 2, similar type of brain teasing topics will be made everyday (ideally)
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9 a( L# c' {. D( hagain, have u tried the 大義滅親 one? that's quite funny IMO * r5 ]  W. _% `+ \+ V1 j6 O  D5 A
Give it a go if u have time

jason williams

haha, leave jor some comment about it la
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