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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
* L* z* I8 d5 B: e5 f0 Z我係一個連自己都吳信的人' C, n, s1 D( Q8 ^7 q! t4 s! P9 ?
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢9 }/ c; d1 f. m3 F# a6 T
道理我知道好多只係做吳到
* [9 `0 q& }; y6 w7 Q: I呢D就係做人的悲哀
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8 h9 d) R3 z1 ], m) sNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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: ^: \. O. s1 j# H+ b3 XNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....5 ?3 Q& O) @9 b
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....  d) g4 K4 ]" ~6 X$ P
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....8 B' j$ s, b- x5 \2 ]8 P- H
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!
/ T5 w/ Q, I  \+ I& c, x, ?/ p我只不過微小的基督徒..................., e& @6 F( _4 U/ T
真的!!這不是反話
+ j- S, ^+ P- k) d' p) h因為我是情感比理性強的人4 R5 ]* C+ u& u* l& D
所以哲學是不成的
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
& [# D0 O- {3 Y. s以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,4 b: m2 F, x/ n# t5 r
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...9 K, f. D' }! [
正是萬惡之源
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:, ]  e; X8 U% b; m0 z- D4 h# {
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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What a statement we have here?
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+ p) J/ h- m/ Y' v! ^Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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1 c* C% G$ V) P4 M- nLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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; v! s4 T* M5 u1 j1 Y[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
4 D4 ]& P; D; g建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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2 a& v0 ~  Q' L' R9 Y, D+ B"不信也沒損失"& l3 x2 y/ ]( V, g! c- p% F, _
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
" J! ]1 d5 l3 G9 X; Rbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......' p% {+ N/ i1 o& H2 H) H! d

. Y  m5 L1 ^. l! l) kit's starting because we have sins......" D4 e& ?/ {$ I8 u' q
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us 6 Y) A2 E8 V5 k( c% a
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"% E. M2 D' w) _' c
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
4 s/ Z% |5 H  ]- f. x0 l用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,2 `: }" d. w0 e( Y7 }' G
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全( V4 v! k- L8 Y2 ~* j7 C$ F
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,: g8 _+ y' @  F, J8 ]& y! a
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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2 h6 o& ~( X- a1 o導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
7 K- a- A; q1 ?: Z, ?: y) L好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
8 c! A  n. a7 l" u& c+ \改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
; ]# e1 O5 J; H, q2 o2 J) {美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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. w: Y, s1 f( i1 G# u$ O, Y宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具8 |* e1 i. A2 y1 O0 y! n( b+ W

& I6 F0 ~: K1 F吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
. q5 D* W* G  t& L2 C信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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5 ?  Y/ r- E) H4 |以下是其他人的見解,
" Y5 u! P9 B. X* @看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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9 \' n6 i/ w: {! j9 z  w% h[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............- F& s. g+ V2 ~2 M5 G4 j. p& L9 v/ k
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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2 l( [0 ^/ X8 d$ k9 o5 c不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!- r) v$ J6 W! y' G
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!9 K; }+ d' f  n: X+ J4 N- Z
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
$ H$ ]* z3 i% U& P, d0 l# R.............信耶穌... ...
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Regarding the resurrection....3 z' c2 o' ]9 i) c  o  M) Z' X  g
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century...." n' o( F% k' _4 O+ U# \/ B( w

  M3 C5 u  b* l0 K; E0 l4 ?You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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