Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
# X( O' l7 E8 C' z我係一個連自己都吳信的人. w5 w# ~( K3 P9 `3 y. z) |
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢. ?4 E2 ^5 V# X) p3 M: t. z
道理我知道好多只係做吳到$ F' `, N  ~+ u* ?( S; V. p
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!6 t9 m! D* r. Q2 p

1 g' _9 t* T. x9 T& ]Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....$ V) e+ z) R! N
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....- B! B4 S: j/ W& r' B) [- l
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
) \1 \: G6 ^1 m0 }7 Q5 S/ w# P5 D% B我只不過微小的基督徒...................; |& J9 f  \( A
真的!!這不是反話# z) @9 n; O- I0 q; x; ]
因為我是情感比理性強的人
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DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
6 G! J5 @# m1 z4 M以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,* n$ U( t/ k+ N- G7 @* `
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...% }- l" F) F# ~6 O* s9 ~
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
& a6 F1 u9 R: `4 W. u建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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* v/ `+ E0 b# `' GWhat a statement we have here?
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7 `8 D! w8 S% r- d! {* m8 AJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo- r+ W, ~( g) C" }8 f

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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
& i. Z) T3 b# T9 u4 P建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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- G$ [8 w9 L; q; e7 m# q"不信也沒損失"
- y" |4 Z: ^% w/ Y0 Q8 V8 AYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
% ~9 s/ k. \8 T; k+ {- Qbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......; G9 f# ~. x' B) ~" G2 A' m2 l
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it's starting because we have sins......
3 ]2 E+ s: W3 r8 D, N3 ^6 dsatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
5 J& i7 |( o; J/ i  Z' wour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
6 o7 ?' C2 E+ X6 `只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
. F# F) `3 l" b  \% x/ m9 `" j6 t+ J0 |用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
% B8 J- D0 x; r6 z7 }5 w7 `這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全8 p# |8 ^- a2 P) A& o1 N/ {" F4 X
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,2 M  s- L) D: j4 Y
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~. R, p" Y# R. D! P9 f' V6 G  l

3 B( J: I% Y# _導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,4 j% U: ]5 p3 G( S% Y2 z
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,8 j& L4 z+ o; _7 ^$ j
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法1 |; K. t$ J2 k4 U1 u0 A; I
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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& n6 i1 \6 I4 d- j$ C  o/ i, a. v宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
* x5 E. a! J3 S# V3 a信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干1 O6 Y6 Y5 y8 z1 Q" W3 D5 X
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以下是其他人的見解,# i2 m0 }* F# L' F9 Z% n
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]

ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............: `& V" M9 K- L3 `: f

% c) J2 z9 k: B1 h  d信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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+ E) L4 L' m& C# N- D9 \4 ~; K我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:( m8 t6 x* B" M
.............信耶穌... ...

! f/ L" G( _2 p2 i; ?. |' PRegarding the resurrection....
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( p% k7 \" W- Q/ P, x: K2 nActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....7 g/ M) h6 k8 A- s

8 M/ d& {3 R0 I6 m- UYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.