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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
9 j+ S7 X( o% E% u9 O2 b- Q我係一個連自己都吳信的人
# r6 M2 |8 {" t( Y8 N5 W1 u: E又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢& H! n: h8 Q7 B4 R- O
道理我知道好多只係做吳到; Q" {+ y% M' p" ^
呢D就係做人的悲哀
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" l" Y. D5 q7 l8 C+ v6 kNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!$ Q: x1 X9 y) S8 c4 K- [
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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( @7 o' r9 H' M! S& a( E+ I' gmr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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! Y! W' H1 h8 P( p( Ystruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....2 O5 s# M/ P& ^! \  i& x
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!' x3 w* j. s1 t8 K& |; ?
我只不過微小的基督徒..................." M6 q: I: @0 N; Z2 p% e
真的!!這不是反話% K+ u7 f4 R2 D$ I  S
因為我是情感比理性強的人4 m- f$ W& g) P8 C* {* P2 n& v
所以哲學是不成的
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,  u4 I8 D1 ]7 k) w2 O. Q3 K
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
  K9 W2 ^+ p4 J  Q7 T在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:# X7 v/ s; g( K% k
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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5 D/ Q- u0 U5 S* F. H; G6 KWhat a statement we have here?
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? . D7 m6 L1 E; B+ c  r# O& w

2 L& b/ E  ^2 h! ~2 m' F' gI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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2 F! |7 {) p6 h% }3 B3 ?  YLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo) y1 R" ~! k7 n6 l. z

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4 w4 l7 n8 r2 i( C+ V# Z[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
' x7 S2 S6 O8 r. S8 r5 S- |建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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"不信也沒損失"1 F8 n6 b7 K! u: l' P6 d* H7 A6 R
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
5 P. X! {, M9 U1 I7 Lbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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it's starting because we have sins......
5 z5 m+ J: \+ Rsatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us 3 D. W. a6 l1 \! }+ A
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"$ q7 V% q- d, h6 k  E4 c
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
0 `+ `+ j6 W; y5 D用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
1 _  J, C6 j  X( T8 I* L這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全/ ?1 o# r' z' `4 {7 T  J
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,- _1 O9 ?8 K- b& ]9 s
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~$ q/ Y( C/ \; s) Z  [7 e' H

! `7 Y# b+ S0 J, U* t2 N9 K導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,$ p( O$ F+ M" ~$ G
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,) p8 f. L, [& W

% j; e( Y  A- g一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,% `; C5 N1 v: K1 o0 i
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
' @2 @- L. Y7 Y美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...- l# D$ g8 y- _: H

: T$ z  N: D5 r% r% {$ q8 L宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具- @3 f! J2 t; y+ u% B# v

' `; U: J+ r; A0 i3 X: K! ]- U; a/ c吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
9 f: Q/ ?  O: K! J) O信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干4 ]4 R0 O0 b$ i4 X1 [2 z; v
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以下是其他人的見解,0 `( n% I+ F# F8 |
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤, }0 K* B5 H; J" B# i
http://hk.geocities.com/hpkong98/buybo.htm5 _% O9 I# ?; n0 K$ l$ M
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!/ [1 u! `+ k% r) E

! a% V4 t/ q( B% u: L6 j6 }不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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: z$ K' P4 B# b我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!* |" |; ^2 {- r+ t$ l* ~* s

( D- L7 B" [4 G同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:0 V& X0 S( p8 x' E0 ~" g
.............信耶穌... ...
& k  q3 O! R& K8 B$ z7 V! WRegarding the resurrection....
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....9 S, {, ^! u2 Z9 z% R

: t4 r! @0 J# Z0 y+ ~You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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