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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:, t4 ~0 D4 u! a. T  A9 f4 ^: v
我係一個連自己都吳信的人
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道理我知道好多只係做吳到3 B5 h' s$ ]- E& p1 v- {' @1 k
呢D就係做人的悲哀
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/ [# S4 f9 {: x, h) x* n6 X1 {Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!% M0 Z: F# V$ M1 h# V

5 z1 l1 [  M& V0 r9 Q* @Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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% C( F- O5 O+ w! Nstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....' q9 b  C4 i0 i# ~( l8 B
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!
8 g* J. U& l7 y5 c; W. j' h9 g我只不過微小的基督徒...................0 U6 ], I$ c, A
真的!!這不是反話# r( d* r& ]3 Y0 D+ h0 ^
因為我是情感比理性強的人
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We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
) f7 x8 }, Q' |: }3 k8 P以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,9 r1 Y5 ]$ y9 B+ L
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...  L5 }; ?9 N: R
正是萬惡之源
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:; C9 |, j. {% p0 P
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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What a statement we have here?: F" k! W2 h2 t; T+ T
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? 5 O+ f2 m4 I( w2 i# n0 g
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.' S# d0 P: w' q2 C) \- j5 Q/ ~/ @8 x
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo" P4 _; G0 ]( o
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Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:  K6 {1 I. B% v9 p3 Y7 \: A
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
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it's starting because we have sins......+ f6 T  e- x0 G3 o) v* y
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us & j+ `; g3 S) b: ]4 Y
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"  S$ C# \( }' ^" B
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,% J( @$ _# t6 l
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,$ z6 {* ?+ a: c- y7 A
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
5 l' b7 P6 Y) f5 N; d, w如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦," M: V; X* X, k+ e/ T
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~' l" ]) ?+ @4 X7 g/ O/ Z: P& v

% o5 n& W0 R* y# t& v2 E導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
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+ R2 n, t8 F# `; _. H( M: F一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
+ ~/ P. i7 L5 A6 Z; c) C改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
  ~! M' d2 ]3 k0 _; A美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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1 H5 o7 P: _5 {+ L( _宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
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! F7 W, H4 B+ d4 `+ |$ o以下是其他人的見解,4 J% B- U; Z$ \+ m+ b) w
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤% |% j: Y( |: ]" {
http://hk.geocities.com/hpkong98/buybo.htm
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7 _5 ?) m* I( p[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............& `) I; I" X# l  v
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!7 _/ Q5 G. T7 Y/ n) C( ?
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!1 h6 q2 P1 e9 J
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!6 L) c* x0 f  b+ r3 z0 U! A6 ?, V
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
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Regarding the resurrection....
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....) y. D  Q! Y) T/ a3 L3 w# a
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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