Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
9 s: M$ k: T6 F  l* I我係一個連自己都吳信的人
0 i0 \& v5 P$ v9 U又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢: ]. M( a4 q' d2 `- ]
道理我知道好多只係做吳到
" O2 g- H' `  W( j4 B( o呢D就係做人的悲哀

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  `- D% ]! a8 l$ nNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....+ X6 S9 s* c# |6 {; r

& s0 W4 d  e# B2 A& _mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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/ `/ K2 m3 D9 z5 jstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
/ w8 P! Z) @% @" Ocheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
/ N0 ?2 n- M2 f. S9 J6 ^% P我只不過微小的基督徒...................
5 V" W/ b1 J2 M5 r真的!!這不是反話# A% Z! m6 k0 e7 t8 x7 _
因為我是情感比理性強的人
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DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
$ h" ]5 r4 E: ?6 {以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
  a6 a# {- r% a3 ?, z, U6 i在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:3 J( Y9 B2 g7 N5 i
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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What a statement we have here?% m% i+ F) ]7 \" x3 r3 C* u. S
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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! R, t; _0 a! {! v4 X: P8 S1 k+ OI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo2 e8 d9 }0 o4 D6 ~6 p
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:cool:
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:0 {; l2 H$ J. K3 j* j
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"3 R$ M+ Y( w1 i' O  m/ _
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
0 u% `, I8 f2 W8 |7 w% Nbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......9 S/ Z4 ?) D- p# f# F& ^  m
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satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us ) K& k- _8 {) D2 h% p) S8 }# m7 _
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"9 @6 Q4 v6 Z# G  C2 }* ]3 E
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,& z* _+ p( H, B. f# L+ \& R
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,: X& @3 j( y* h8 ]0 N% P8 N& ^
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
) b( f3 V2 L8 W. |  C0 ?9 Q$ C- U# y+ G2 Z如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
' N# m3 v5 Y; ]8 R- `! H  `而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~: ]6 O2 ^9 j  z: x- Y9 d

& G. {2 J0 T8 y3 @9 I3 U5 W+ O% l導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,; J3 `; K' h" K4 u, z+ {# ~
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
: d" ]0 f- O# U8 |8 p改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
/ R; U# l4 s& M; S8 g  K; N美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,; t& n: R6 H" m, G
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]

ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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5 M, x- O8 e1 R# C信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!2 |, U% ~: A8 V  u, _) D$ L* ?4 x# Y
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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: j+ n. o* g9 w+ L. [2 L同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:, E3 _- I) y/ X/ `0 x+ O( m
.............信耶穌... ...

7 |& T4 @9 d$ T3 g; }Regarding the resurrection....
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  K7 `9 m  |$ u) {5 wActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....5 \: X3 N( U9 r# ?' d' r2 |6 _% U
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.