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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:, m' }" y2 j5 j# Y: w1 H1 Q5 E# v
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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; H1 k8 y/ _# M$ T% m# T+ Rbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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4 V$ e0 x/ }3 a6 o2 n) kBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.' ]& p) x2 ]! d5 z6 L# g8 ~
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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3 R! b/ l1 `  i其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:0 W% a( l- l% d2 u# E, |6 a
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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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$ x: |0 q8 Y0 m  y9 d! |% q智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->9 r+ O) [& w9 P4 R( `" ^3 s

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.; }( Z* l3 w9 ^, j

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
) K9 r. F' b6 s/ Q& S" JIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:* _2 g; t4 C& U; n

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他比孔明更偉大

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. L+ ?1 Z6 g' VAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:$ a, @" |& R% q7 N& s( S/ f2 \

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:  f' ]. u7 N  f( j- ]8 [4 D# C' q

6 K9 m9 o' U0 @& Syes, that's the point.

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