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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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% K% g& q# s: q; d( c- m智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:! A7 `' a& V0 L) Q' y

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6 s2 ]& z) Q/ N" a$ E& K: a: eBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:4 |2 ]; P" E+ R- c/ Y  f0 C
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?! {( a( b. C2 O* _  t# v; [

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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4 S; _5 t  X% ~其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->! {  R8 I  k5 ]( a

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.6 u: q, I6 N; S% m0 b3 M

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
5 `0 t- a" W. {  SIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:! Z! g+ R5 j/ [& w# p7 ?/ R

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:6 l; O! x- ]# d8 n' ?. c

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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