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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:+ W6 v9 U; F5 s$ f, \9 ]

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:0 ~" w2 S$ s( B1 A, \( ]# b
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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5 s2 G( @% x' C& x/ I2 {- h  w1 E智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->: U1 {! x! |7 u% T4 Q( K3 p
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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/ q- @9 U# i6 d3 e/ _打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.9 @8 ^. s/ A5 n8 y! t9 h$ a

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
! [  Q' l3 I5 f9 WIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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2 ?2 r* [1 a$ f2 Y/ {, [Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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# V/ W! j, h& T+ H# h他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:* k: c8 s4 l# e+ H: o$ u- V" {' w% q

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......