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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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2 A8 Q3 N/ r. J智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:0 K& G: S  `* I! _! {
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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. s! `; h# ~9 R) o! Q' V3 HBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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[ Last edited by 機密 on 2006-1-30 at 09:45 PM ]

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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3 W' n. T) _9 a% ]But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:8 D( Q4 u+ V1 ?6 R7 Y

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus/ s2 k; v: O, K3 E7 A; G" \0 A
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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8 ^' ]1 ]' \) q/ U5 p軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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! \+ r7 X0 ]) M( M$ d. r$ U, v3 j打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.2 r5 ]% A5 N' @6 N9 `

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
7 _/ @( W6 Z9 w4 a8 u) VIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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& |8 ]# Q7 i( `* M" g: vAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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  Y8 y2 @  m, O) z' b他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:4 ?% p6 X% L2 n5 |; O

# ^4 j5 u" p$ ?yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......