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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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0 ^% ]% F; L% o* k8 s( Qbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.% s2 _6 r& U2 L9 w5 Z4 `6 S
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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0 |0 Z8 ]) X$ M" d. I9 b+ |2 yBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:, g. v  ]+ j+ w# N5 F
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see #22 Thus) g& y+ D& i& f5 g
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維* ?: _: G- L& j2 U7 R* s. j

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:5 t4 ?6 W9 V  t2 |8 v
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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# ?9 s# h; K1 d他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:1 H8 y1 x- C% u& Z" G. T
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* U1 f- ~' T) c$ ]  F  W他比孔明更偉大

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3 O5 Q  M$ \/ b# h2 HAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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, x9 ]3 }4 i" [7 ^( X; J他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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% O. F- a) |  Xyes, that's the point.

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