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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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5 K* o9 m+ b  [0 h5 h5 S9 M: |but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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1 d" h8 D, Q  f7 Q$ @- dBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:+ y' g5 A3 f1 u1 A' z. D% _
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:+ y( N& f. M5 P  A+ L: I9 [# W: |# V

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->. i" V7 W% h; j! ?) p  p. ^
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維4 b6 V2 Q$ ~" X# r

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" ]& p! s. Z4 r; d3 Q4 Q' N: m. ?打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.( ^! o' Q# I3 ?& N& k. a
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
" u% ~/ X9 i6 E! a% u/ r( t/ NIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:1 B9 S' B; }; C& t8 j) A9 p

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:# J7 O' i3 }9 g4 _

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7 _/ N' ]- O6 XAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:/ u6 V/ J6 _- o- L

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:! ]5 @/ _1 F2 Y! b
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yes, that's the point.

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. ^& r9 |) E# Y: k+ E) w2 o陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......