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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:9 \0 L+ M* k5 r- [7 b
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.& P" Z- j& F$ y$ {- {, A
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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% b3 L0 B1 P" Y  s. u+ P! A2 XBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?! e# h! z: `2 E* h, ^

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:4 t, q# ?( ~7 M! U

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why?
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( d) {4 F8 |# j. j9 _1 {智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾---># M4 G6 N3 a* A% `) H' \7 q
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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4 v2 S3 X; J, q5 I. T打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.2 o- n9 M1 S2 h' z
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:! x! V0 n7 m0 M8 M4 ?, v4 Z' T
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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# k' L7 @/ ~3 d7 v他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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! d1 e$ N: H' |" U) K" z他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:' C1 M7 Y+ z6 N9 B$ U
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......