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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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+ m- h% S9 u- K3 D$ IBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.+ H8 e6 ?- u: r! G4 d1 v- ]9 Y2 X

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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; b3 s) e1 d, h6 C4 XBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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8 U7 }/ o* T. E5 H7 ^* k* H其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:1 m- F, u* R! H) N

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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# b3 D( c7 \5 {+ l政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
5 N  [$ w, _0 ~7 I$ o1 [In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:6 N4 Y: i3 p+ ~4 m7 q# G/ e' B
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:% v* m$ r' S# d6 S+ I, t
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:9 o' `7 u* x- c% j! H! C% E- V: L

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:2 _9 a( n" y: P& i/ m
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......