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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:3 w: {( u; ~! u8 p* M9 M% }& Q
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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5 e0 a; y# I" z5 Z5 P+ L7 Tbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.( `6 n8 y8 e0 M/ v9 l! ]
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:+ N: u) {1 S% d; z, f1 ?

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, |5 f) _6 {2 e6 v; F/ P其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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9 }  {8 \  |5 t. e) Y6 v智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->6 G* r4 c2 L7 E- C
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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% v1 x  ^/ w& ?打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.* V, X" f$ Y& m. A/ O0 p" J

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
% M+ S9 F# ~0 h- m( [3 F8 U8 lIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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; L7 [3 }. y$ E/ |$ OAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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- T1 Z8 E' D* [% y9 F) G; mAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:( U% q/ o5 O! L. {

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9 F2 K3 V5 v( T- ?3 q( m: ]他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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" \" f5 F! g; y( `% h( T3 a4 gyes, that's the point.

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