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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:6 |  p8 G8 ~5 i* c
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

  ?% g# E( S$ y7 {but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮., r5 {1 c$ V, t/ a

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:0 V+ c" u) c+ Q" m. h

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0 k4 k. o( g$ [) |But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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$ N! k2 M4 J4 v( P: t# t5 M其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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9 ]1 ]; v# a) O7 m- c# t2 J" n智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->6 e4 r' s+ }6 M! ^% V
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維6 A# A' w5 O" N: v3 j# W9 x
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.3 U, N/ z2 z* C0 A
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.2 K5 W8 j* S* J) N' a8 E; ~0 R$ K

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
: ~% t& J9 \/ g: [8 q0 C* N* E6 KIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:3 h1 w/ D' _, Q( g3 B
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他比孔明更偉大

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( g) j$ u) w2 l, ^3 [! A$ \Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:$ U  U4 X7 ^6 j6 h- y

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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3 m7 F6 D8 p) C) ~% H  ?他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......