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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:* P- a9 O1 `6 \# M) _/ e
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.3 |' _5 U; h. _
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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4 c% d/ ^3 h! j' y3 VBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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, m  P& C# L. y其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:5 X5 L+ v* X& B# [
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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus  i; G4 c2 `  o: _
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->, ~9 ^1 `: k9 |* g
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.* m3 H" P& Q+ V7 K8 R/ c. L
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:9 A6 B8 a2 a2 f; u8 O. Y# @$ i
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:. {* s+ i2 v1 o

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  [6 y! P' C) c$ C( u! [4 LAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:' Q! ]& n! b5 T# _3 }

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9 O2 B4 E& Z) b% {' ~9 OAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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( g/ T1 {* }+ |3 m他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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3 i0 W6 g% h. G& q他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:3 L( D1 i* n6 ?- c6 W' K0 C. F

5 P: |6 ^4 \6 V/ jyes, that's the point.

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