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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:) G$ ]5 C  G  p1 u6 x

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:" w5 K8 q/ ~# A7 [

, v8 A9 W- H% h# F& C; kbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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8 D; e0 b; E! k* a+ z) o$ |8 p1 |$ sBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.6 M3 Z) c* z( Z! R1 k# S2 U7 H

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:/ m* c# i& N  w. h
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維6 S# @/ O, e1 ^

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.3 i4 k5 [" i9 K: P, ~

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:# Q* U- D9 s" z/ `, E. `
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:4 o% j5 f# l! `
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他比孔明更偉大

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! M" J8 ~( K) g# E9 i7 y0 JAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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- O, c0 }6 K* q他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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  t0 ?6 _. W, M' n0 b, ~yes, that's the point.

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