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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:! f$ s5 c5 U- N& c2 |# J# m6 Q! c* S  R

) I( ~) j+ Y, U0 ^$ obut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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% k; V, W* |% k$ P# GBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?0 W/ x0 ~, c4 a, s% M% \0 V, ?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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( J& Y, a& E* h! r7 _1 y智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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" A9 g' I' a9 y8 x  }政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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' W2 w$ m: ?1 e3 Y( V3 n打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:2 _" h, L" [1 e
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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3 e# d( m" ?; V( G; a: |Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:) w9 A" C$ B* I9 h

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:+ h2 f/ R* |3 [% x! r
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:' o% F, _- S' V6 i6 A4 x* Q

% N% }7 y% L, |3 Jyes, that's the point.

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