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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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: I/ b, Q- z, e/ c; Q9 }But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.3 [0 y' Y, v) O. V% s% ~
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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4 l% A  G4 ^9 ^But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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. U4 T. c; b8 r/ E3 P5 i其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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+ [5 T$ q7 _( v2 O/ ~" Fsee #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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$ x/ h3 ]+ D! B; P3 r( _" L6 V打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
' ]8 f% m1 U# v1 @In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:5 j% k' U! @! m  v3 n
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:( i/ W* B" J* `6 t6 R2 u

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( ~' X( M* O3 z他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:" \2 U7 R5 \- M+ B
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yes, that's the point.

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