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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:6 z" v" I  j; I7 U

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:0 Z" \- f% u: m+ ~
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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1 S/ Y, H) q( Q- A, g8 K/ N其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->& a3 F' H$ U; \# H
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維! v* |  c; Z6 \: {
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.. s0 L& g! ?  q! j" A6 `5 u, M* A' {
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.+ s+ O7 m: W9 S) M  ]- E1 h& R4 [

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
( e0 N$ I# H( f- s- iIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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1 b. v8 e6 S; f+ u  ]/ l5 e) I/ O" rAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:6 q+ Y8 e) _8 V9 p5 Y
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:% l7 m# f2 y. o, M" m6 Y
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( ^1 F( R  D* c7 [0 T; g$ i! w他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:2 ~2 Z) c) o- |

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