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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:9 n6 R  i6 O2 V8 ^) K
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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" X! z. v( n( i+ GBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.! a! m, X: R' a# P9 F

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:4 k# b5 [" H. E4 `( A1 `8 l

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9 d$ C  Q8 o3 Y' l* OBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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. A/ V. Q* O# I9 k, q( d, F政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.& q5 C/ y* R9 i/ X% }7 m

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
/ U8 G2 h( w; \' F% I  g: I' C3 H! ?In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:% A9 N( R& Y& W

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他比孔明更偉大

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9 {: {  {  X* |$ a- E9 G3 j4 `; l* ~Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:6 q( l7 P/ n% y, a, _
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:( n) v0 w% O, Q1 \
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4 Y: j' V- u1 m, F他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:4 Y5 l3 {& P$ D9 B0 j
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......