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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:5 ]) V/ ]6 |" {: G5 ^! d$ }

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6 R4 X  u) b; G6 K8 HBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.# o3 ^' Q. v" y4 D

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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0 _8 W& `% Y+ O8 TBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:; o2 L5 t# C3 I$ M. a0 ?# G& n7 L

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9 D# m/ E' l8 G其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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9 q  V$ j% v1 [6 F$ k% y# d智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維. M) ?# v' E( y7 C  v

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$ ]2 \7 Q% U0 t. L& n3 N7 `$ ~打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:3 _% _  ]5 F) L+ O
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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; J1 o6 X1 ?' t/ B) j他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:! L8 u9 }6 F( T* X5 C$ r( l( w

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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3 |" Y1 `, K$ g6 H: I/ |& J他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:2 z6 e. ]% o: w* z: k' a" f3 F. n9 H
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......