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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:3 z) |$ ^# S7 a
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# `, @. N" ]5 F7 r智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:1 _( y, m4 \2 V; `) H  C& j: k% h
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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' w, V4 I$ M1 Z7 DBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.# {9 r, p6 r# s3 Q. ~
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:! M; f0 d/ d% `- F
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% t" c% h! e5 S" p' xBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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5 F3 [/ h8 d# X" y& a/ X- k" v其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:3 `2 F* R) M: L& a, _; b" v

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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+ K1 J4 _  c% \3 `( a& k智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->7 u( b+ ]5 q( P+ |% g

7 _  `; ~% V5 p3 }8 u軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.6 J; h& A, H( N! I) }  l6 P7 A/ n
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.& C: B: F3 z0 d/ H2 Y  _
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
% }; m/ ^! [. l; O/ X/ E! _5 e, _( c8 KIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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, D/ h' `" y4 F% g1 m1 ]他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:9 ?; G+ {, |- m8 r+ U$ ]

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他比孔明更偉大

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( p$ x# @' f8 j7 f% NAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:% I6 `6 y, ^" Y) w4 g: W/ G4 H
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  W0 ^" W. T0 n" l4 S4 JAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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! m& B" w3 _. m+ f/ ]1 r他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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3 V) T# o: P, C+ E2 p' P' M: ?他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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" {. R3 o/ `& n# E: v- L  m陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......