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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:* G- h6 P, `4 A! W! o! {! D

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:  H* Z* k, q) H! o3 j

3 \  m3 C* u/ F( u8 u: hbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:6 A8 D: Z. a. [3 Z1 X

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:# q" r& p, S! J' D
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why?
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; J) q. m) g" k; [/ u  a9 F# O% |: R! w9 w其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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4 l, h* n: u8 }4 ^see #22 Thus
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& [$ S  X) z& V智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維# L) s. B& w- _& j
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.1 g3 W# v& t& ?

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:" X# c' F" Y+ D2 p
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:* J! S0 q* |( P
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他比孔明更偉大

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* d1 F' s8 }& t" E; ]Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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3 v  [; N; I  O0 i& H6 i+ @! ?他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:  n( o$ e, n# q! w" ]9 g" |% r
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2 Z' s$ N; g) x7 F7 ?- \他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:) T/ f) ?8 }$ s* o5 B2 n

  W( x3 @1 o# W5 vyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......