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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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) O8 u! g# p4 Z0 S) V0 v; s- f智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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8 O/ w$ z& H6 i9 Jbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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4 Z( k. {" w( l  ~' e1 _, o& x! t* aBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.1 e; w& d* o# j: E. @/ W

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?: x; ?2 A! v) R- L0 e7 V

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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) N+ B9 w: j4 `& W% y( [see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->& m! S# N$ N+ P% e7 t
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維% e; X/ x: l1 }+ l! I0 B$ `
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
3 F" r2 ?. C& b0 P& e+ L$ `In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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' A% s) z) T: D- `8 G# R  jAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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2 v6 w& a- m, s0 E% ?0 o! Y. ~( Y& Z他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:  I) f. Y' o) ~9 i
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......