Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
; C9 r/ y2 ~, _. j/ A我係一個連自己都吳信的人
2 }5 P! [4 L  E& t; X又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
+ P6 `0 e: N! i$ [道理我知道好多只係做吳到' i8 B& V$ a/ c, h" x; |
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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# p* e$ k& R: `" L, O* j8 m& P. J* zNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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3 W2 H" k4 F- A2 M' amr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....( D7 |% U2 t1 d, A% V
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....4 k* i) i2 W: t. R1 R
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!4 T  g2 I/ K$ p8 w) R
我只不過微小的基督徒..................., l, Z$ q/ L8 M& L6 q6 W9 i
真的!!這不是反話/ a$ U( w3 E& m  f
因為我是情感比理性強的人9 R+ b! m$ b) w3 S/ v- e: p4 b
所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,0 }- q$ |& H0 p8 e6 A: g
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,7 x( k; U  t2 ~5 _2 ~/ q6 Y/ R# @) A& Q
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:7 N. K( p( }1 ~8 O2 j  H( I
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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( J5 }: S' Z0 |* Y3 {" lWhat a statement we have here?1 w; }* @& A9 _! F8 Q  v7 \
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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2 Z+ G6 p9 W. S  aI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread./ K4 d5 @7 D& v6 N; j. \
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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:cool:
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:) n3 m' R: G" O* ]2 \5 {9 Q
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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" ^" l6 D& L$ {6 f6 R  V8 j& ]"不信也沒損失"( G. N( o! q0 e$ N
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
1 L3 k7 O8 K& ^, Mbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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it's starting because we have sins......
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) `" h3 }% ^% l8 xour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"$ ]+ u5 D) ?! m" `
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
$ J, |' u7 D3 w* p. t用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
9 O3 y3 f6 W2 m! s3 {7 g/ J, p這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全7 s( m) G& Y1 d* O; T# Q
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,0 f* E7 i3 f5 D- x( h, e& x
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,8 b* U1 I- A* {7 x8 L
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,: n  D  K" m+ L$ ], C* u5 H" D  u
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
+ z) Q6 \; _' ]: d改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法$ ^% v. \3 p, V4 {9 G' t5 c
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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/ v$ Y- M5 {" b宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具! u7 Y. F# V0 V* ]7 {
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
2 u+ l7 i* A5 `信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,/ ]: h4 x. u6 P6 D
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤; |( U2 O; f7 e6 i8 Q0 \
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............0 O$ R& j* U5 a; }5 ^

0 I; l: `% D5 g8 E信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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/ v: \) f6 K- }' K5 Q不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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$ v! \7 O/ i& ?+ L4 E我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
5 a1 K; B# m# o- i4 n$ c.............信耶穌... ...

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  W- |9 ^2 W; {Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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$ s: T/ i. _* `$ q( c! H7 R, [You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.